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Evadman

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Trelane was in the OS episode: The Squire of Gothos.

He was also in a 900 page book by Peter David, "Q Squared."
 

XMan

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What I always wondered is, why didn't the crew just use the replicator to make a stinkin' machine gun with armor piercing rounds and blow the Borg away instead of having to change the frequency of their phasers every time they shot.

 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Trelane was in the OS episode: The Squire of Gothos.

He was also in a 900 page book by Peter David, "Q Squared."
And just when was that written?

That is the point of this thread. rewriting Trek history.

 

Orsorum

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Mwahaha, I can't wait to see this episode. About overpowering the Borg drones, wouldn't they just use some outdated projectile weapons (i.e. a couple Glocks) to defeat them?
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: Zakath15
Mwahaha, I can't wait to see this episode. About overpowering the Borg drones, wouldn't they just use some outdated projectile weapons (i.e. a couple Glocks) to defeat them?
Liquid nitrogen thrown on them would be cool too.

 

BooGiMaN

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im still waiting to see young yoda and how they invent the lightsabers..has anyone heard if yoda will be on this or next years enterpise? :p
 

Electrode

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I suppose it's OK to ask this question now, possible spoiler: (I watched it this afternoon)

How can the Enterprise crew effectively use their phase pistols on these Borg, when they would no doubt have been exposed to (and thus adapted to) similar but more powerful phasers during their encounter in First Contact?
 
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Rick Berman and Branon Braga have said that Enterprise will not follow continuity and that they are using so they can create a whole new universe. I refuse to watch Enterprise for this reason. I am a Star Trek geek, and have been for a long time. I bet most of the people saying it's just a tv show or it's only star trek, would be up in arms if something like this happened to Star Wars.

I used to run a RPG that me and a friend made up for Star Trek in the TNG DS9 time. we made up a whole rule book and everything(yes i am a geek) and we have tons of notes and stories that we have done from the games that would put enterprise to shame. We ran our game and universe in a DS9 gritti-ness but with story telling and character types that would more resemble the original concept of Star Trek. If you follow the Show and the movies(original cast) you'd see that it is about the friendship between, Kirk, McCoy and Spock. All three of them would have given their lives(and did) for the other.
Now star trek is about the big bad space weavel and how can we technobable our way out of this.
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: Electrode
I suppose it's OK to ask this question now, possible spoiler: (I watched it this afternoon)











How can the Enterpries crew effectively use their phase pistols on these Borg, when they would no doubt have been exposed to (and thus adapted to) similar but more powerful phasers during their encounter in First Contact?

Because today is opposite day.
 

dethman

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Originally posted by: X-Man
What I always wondered is, why didn't the crew just use the replicator to make a stinkin' machine gun with armor piercing rounds and blow the Borg away instead of having to change the frequency of their phasers every time they shot.

Originally posted by: Zakath15
Mwahaha, I can't wait to see this episode. About overpowering the Borg drones, wouldn't they just use some outdated projectile weapons (i.e. a couple Glocks) to defeat them?


if a borg can generate a force field that stops an energy weapon, obviously it can stop some pissy projectile weapon.
 

Rkonster

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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Rick Berman and Branon Braga have said that Enterprise will not follow continuity and that they are using so they can create a whole new universe. I refuse to watch Enterprise for this reason. I am a Star Trek geek, and have been for a long time. I bet most of the people saying it's just a tv show or it's only star trek, would be up in arms if something like this happened to Star Wars.

I used to run a RPG that me and a friend made up for Star Trek in the TNG DS9 time. we made up a whole rule book and everything(yes i am a geek) and we have tons of notes and stories that we have done from the games that would put enterprise to shame. We ran our game and universe in a DS9 gritti-ness but with story telling and character types that would more resemble the original concept of Star Trek. If you follow the Show and the movies(original cast) you'd see that it is about the friendship between, Kirk, McCoy and Spock. All three of them would have given their lives(and did) for the other.
Now star trek is about the big bad space weavel and how can we technobable our way out of this.

As I said in the other thread, it was First Contact that destroyed continuity all together.
 

Maharaja

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Originally posted by: dethman
Originally posted by: X-Man
What I always wondered is, why didn't the crew just use the replicator to make a stinkin' machine gun with armor piercing rounds and blow the Borg away instead of having to change the frequency of their phasers every time they shot.

Originally posted by: Zakath15
Mwahaha, I can't wait to see this episode. About overpowering the Borg drones, wouldn't they just use some outdated projectile weapons (i.e. a couple Glocks) to defeat them?


if a borg can generate a force field that stops an energy weapon, obviously it can stop some pissy projectile weapon.

Picard killed 2 drones with a machine gun in First Contact.
 

dighn

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Originally posted by: Maharaja
Originally posted by: dethman
Originally posted by: X-Man
What I always wondered is, why didn't the crew just use the replicator to make a stinkin' machine gun with armor piercing rounds and blow the Borg away instead of having to change the frequency of their phasers every time they shot.

Originally posted by: Zakath15
Mwahaha, I can't wait to see this episode. About overpowering the Borg drones, wouldn't they just use some outdated projectile weapons (i.e. a couple Glocks) to defeat them?


if a borg can generate a force field that stops an energy weapon, obviously it can stop some pissy projectile weapon.

Picard killed 2 drones with a machine gun in First Contact.

i guess they weren't prepare for it

the whole adaption thing is full of holes. you'd think the borg with their infinite encounters with all kinds of weaponary would be pretty much invincible to everything but they still get taken down by the first few shots
 

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Maharaja

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At the very least they should have some kind of body armor. Forgetting about projectile weapons, it would make them more effective in hand to hand combat. That's the problem when you create some super advanced character. You kill your story if they don't have a weakness/flaw, but usually that weakness ends up being something a little stupid.
 

ultimatebob

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Actually, I'm watching the episode right now, and it's not half bad. Sure, it's not as cool as "Best of Both Worlds", but it's a pretty good introduction episode the Borg.

I'm just curious how they're going to tie up the episode, so it doesn't screw up the Star Trek timeline too much. Perhaps the Federation will decide the cover up the whole encounter, so future "generations" wouldn't have known about it?
 

Looney

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Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: Maharaja
Originally posted by: dethman
Originally posted by: X-Man
What I always wondered is, why didn't the crew just use the replicator to make a stinkin' machine gun with armor piercing rounds and blow the Borg away instead of having to change the frequency of their phasers every time they shot.

Originally posted by: Zakath15
Mwahaha, I can't wait to see this episode. About overpowering the Borg drones, wouldn't they just use some outdated projectile weapons (i.e. a couple Glocks) to defeat them?


if a borg can generate a force field that stops an energy weapon, obviously it can stop some pissy projectile weapon.

Picard killed 2 drones with a machine gun in First Contact.

i guess they weren't prepare for it

the whole adaption thing is full of holes. you'd think the borg with their infinite encounters with all kinds of weaponary would be pretty much invincible to everything but they still get taken down by the first few shots

Yeah, but those first few shots are the last few shots, then they adapt to the weaponry. Besides, their awesome weaponry are on their ships, not the drones themselves... they're just workers. I remember hearing that a typical cube had like 50,000 drones... Picard's Enterprise was the fleet's flagship, and it only had 1400 people... and some of those are civilians.
 

I thought it was kind of lame how they tied in the Borg message in this episode to the invasion in the 24th century.

I must say, this is the only Star Trek I do not like. The Vulcan chick is hot though.
 

Electrode

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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
The Vulcan chick is hot though.

And it sounds like next week's episode will involve her going through Pon Farr (in other words, getting uncontrollably horny).
 

Triumph

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I went ahead and fixed the last line in the show that Captain Archer said:

Originally posted by: Captain Archer
We've only postponed our introduction to them to the 24th century, when we will be introduced to them again.

 

heartsurgeon

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i want to know why after umpteen years..nobody ever seems to go faster than warp 9.
we would never stand for that sort of progress (or lack thereof) in "real" life.
what gives? is there a posted speed limit?

i want warp 50, and i want it now (heck - there was an episode in voyager where Kess "threw" voyager through Borg space..had be warp 80 at least.

come to think of it, what happened to the fissures in space-time that warp travel causes...i thought warp travel was
going to problematic for he survival of the universe?

i don't really care...i just want` to go as fast as possible