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I don't see why any player should feel pressured to play the game in a way that they do not wish to play it. What is the point of playing any game if you are doing it in such a way that you do not enjoy?
Aikouka
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Try finding a group when you don't want to play the way everyone else wants you to. It's a choice between "play the way you want" or "get the run you want"... I think I want the run 
. Especially since it doesn't take much for me to tank instead of DPS where as a fury warrior... not tank so well.
. Especially since it doesn't take much for me to tank instead of DPS where as a fury warrior... not tank so well.Originally posted by: Aikouka
Try finding a group when you don't want to play the way everyone else wants you to. It's a choice between "play the way you want" or "get the run you want"... I think I want the run
Well, everyone needs to accept that the choices they make do come with consequences especially in a MMO. That's perfectly acceptable. However, I often see players bashing other players for not speccing a certain way or choosing to restrict themselves to a particular role. I don't agree with that. They should not be bashing them. They should be respecting their choice to play how they want to play. Respecting that choice doesn't mean you are obligated to group with them though. Nor does it mean that every player should expect to be desired in every group regardless of what choices they make.
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I get annoyed if a player subjects me to his shitty build. Like if you're a DPS in a raid group that I'm in... don't go in with this half-ass tank/dps hybrid build that can't even out DPS my wand. But I think we've talked about that before .
I also see some people being berated because they complain about not being able to find a group... when they're some not-so-sought-after off-spec like Boomkin (suffers from mana problems).
I don't go out of my way or really ever mock anyone's build (although I may comment on it to myself) as I don't really give a shit. Sometimes though, I will give the players advice if I see bad gear choices or poor spec choices, which is the right way to go about it if you are going to take the time to criticize.
Although, I was helping my druid in ZF on my rogue and this other rogue is there looking at me (if you remember, my rogue is terribad gear-wise) and he's like "LOLOL are you that Darro that failed at the orb in BWL?" I'm a bit thrown off by this as I haven't stepped into BWL since I quit raiding... over two years ago... on a different server. Ain't the first time I've been taken as someone else... although it always pissed me off when some bastard would ask if I was "Darru" back on LB. That fucker, I was Darro long before he made his fucking Horde Druid. Although, he probably had people ask if he was me.
Speaking of old times... I was reading a thread on most popular people in WoW. The part that's usually amusing is how most of the players that are revered aren't even as good as quite a few other players... they're simply the ones that make themselves known. Although, it is amusing that just about no one knows why Drakedog was famous.... Whenever he was described to me (before I watched a video of him), they always said "he could take on 2-3 people at the same time when all other warlocks just QQ'd about their class" It wasn't that he was destruction or anything like that... although his videos now are kind of more about him being destruction when most warlocks are SL/SL. Also, where's DD8!!!
Only thing is... once my druid hits 70, I have no idea what to do. I guess I'll have to do the incredibly annoying money grind again to get 5 players their mounts.
.I also see some people being berated because they complain about not being able to find a group... when they're some not-so-sought-after off-spec like Boomkin (suffers from mana problems).
I don't go out of my way or really ever mock anyone's build (although I may comment on it to myself) as I don't really give a shit. Sometimes though, I will give the players advice if I see bad gear choices or poor spec choices, which is the right way to go about it if you are going to take the time to criticize.
Although, I was helping my druid in ZF on my rogue and this other rogue is there looking at me (if you remember, my rogue is terribad gear-wise) and he's like "LOLOL are you that Darro that failed at the orb in BWL?" I'm a bit thrown off by this as I haven't stepped into BWL since I quit raiding... over two years ago... on a different server. Ain't the first time I've been taken as someone else... although it always pissed me off when some bastard would ask if I was "Darru" back on LB. That fucker, I was Darro long before he made his fucking Horde Druid. Although, he probably had people ask if he was me.
Speaking of old times... I was reading a thread on most popular people in WoW. The part that's usually amusing is how most of the players that are revered aren't even as good as quite a few other players... they're simply the ones that make themselves known. Although, it is amusing that just about no one knows why Drakedog was famous.... Whenever he was described to me (before I watched a video of him), they always said "he could take on 2-3 people at the same time when all other warlocks just QQ'd about their class" It wasn't that he was destruction or anything like that... although his videos now are kind of more about him being destruction when most warlocks are SL/SL. Also, where's DD8!!!
Only thing is... once my druid hits 70, I have no idea what to do. I guess I'll have to do the incredibly annoying money grind again to get 5 players their mounts
.I pretty much agree with all of that except the being subjected to a shitty build part. Remember, you may not be the one choosing who gets selected for a 5 man or a raid, but you are choosing to subject yourself to that group. If your raid leader sucks at picking people or if your guild is shitty when it comes to the quality of the recruit selection then most likely you are just better off finding a different guild.
Drakedog got famous because he popularized the Destro Seduce nuke build way back when locks really wernt that powerfull, thats pretty much it, he also made entertaining videos, big numbers and all that
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As you know, I did that... now I get to find PUGs, which is either a good experience or a pretty bad one. The other week, I spent eight hours in Karazhan because of how bad the group was. We got further in 2 hours after reforming (only keeping 4 people) than we did in the other 6 hours. Other times, I get into 3 hour full clears. I've been asked by guilds to join (usually guild runs that I get into), but I just don't feel a connection to them. I'm more of a serious type in some situations, and people just saying weird shit tends to turn me off... I guess that's why I don't find the trade chat "anal game" funny at all. Hmm thinking about it, I don't think I've ever had fun raiding with specific people (when including voice chat) except way back when I did MC. I guess it also doesn't help that I don't usually like playing with people as I tend to just see other players as proverbial ball-n-chains just there to slow me down.
I should just make a guild called <Stick in the Mud> as that's me.
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Ya... while the other locks were QQ'ing he was pew-pewing. He's not the only one to do things like that as I'm sure everyone in here that played since awhile back can recall someone in a supposed "terribad" spec that could beat multiple people. I knew quite a few retadins that could win 1vMany. Although, I think this was back during the days of reck bombs, which were quite powerful . I also remember this one hunter that tried to beat us rogues only using melee... that was funny. But at least he wasn't one of those damn hunters that stood on a fucking trap in the middle of a flare... god I still hate that shit in duels.
I should just make a guild called <Stick in the Mud> as that's me
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Ya... while the other locks were QQ'ing he was pew-pewing
. He's not the only one to do things like that as I'm sure everyone in here that played since awhile back can recall someone in a supposed "terribad" spec that could beat multiple people. I knew quite a few retadins that could win 1vMany. Although, I think this was back during the days of reck bombs, which were quite powerful . I also remember this one hunter that tried to beat us rogues only using melee... that was funny. But at least he wasn't one of those damn hunters that stood on a fucking trap in the middle of a flare... god I still hate that shit in duels.Originally posted by: Aikouka
As you know, I did that... now I get to find PUGs, which is either a good experience or a pretty bad one. The other week, I spent eight hours in Karazhan because of how bad the group was. We got further in 2 hours after reforming (only keeping 4 people) than we did in the other 6 hours. Other times, I get into 3 hour full clears. I've been asked by guilds to join (usually guild runs that I get into), but I just don't feel a connection to them. I'm more of a serious type in some situations, and people just saying weird shit tends to turn me off... I guess that's why I don't find the trade chat "anal game" funny at all. Hmm thinking about it, I don't think I've ever had fun raiding with specific people (when including voice chat) except way back when I did MC. I guess it also doesn't help that I don't usually like playing with people as I tend to just see other players as proverbial ball-n-chains just there to slow me down.
I should just make a guild called <Stick in the Mud> as that's me
So, basically what you are saying is that being a positive team player isn't your cup-o-tea, but you can still play well.
Aikouka
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Originally posted by: Xavier434
So, basically what you are saying is that being a positive team player isn't your cup-o-tea, but you can still play well.
Nah... I just don't really get into any of the vent conversations that guilds may have. Heck, this one guild wanted my Shaman to join, but I just kind of felt turned off and I don't know why... they weren't a bad guild or anything. It could also be that I wanted to raid, didn't even get a message back from one guild (always make me
)... and especially after seeing wrath gear and knowing it's not worth my time to work on characters. Although, the guild my druid's in... it was a bit amusing last night with how someone said, "You seem to know a lot about this game" "Yeah, I should after having 9 70's"
. Some times I wish that I only had one 70 though... it's so much easier to manage, but damn I sure do love being able to craft anything .
i used to piss them off when i played my rogue and pop my frost reflecter and run into the trapwhich would get reflected and then go and restealth. pissed alot of them off said it was "unfair" because standing on a trap and a flare is totally fair
also the soloution to you guild issue is this, you need to reroll a horde tank (druid, war or paly) or a resto shaman on Ner'zhul and get some gear and join my guild
Doing 3v3 tonight. Mage, Warrior, Druid (me) for the 2nd time. We'll see if we do better. Should help now that I have a pvp trinket and some more resiliance. Need to get my S4 gloves
I gotta say.. I've been Alliance since retail, but I've been leveling a BE Hunter on Blackrock with some guildie friends. It's like a total 180 from what I am used to. Pugs seem to work a bit better. I'm liking the different look/feel of the questing on the Horde side. And my god.. Battlegrounds are FUN again. We actually win and I catch heals and stuff. This shit was unheard of on my alliance toons. I managed to accumulate enough honor for some Season 2 pieces right as I hit 70. In fact, I'm looking forward to playing my horde toon more then raiding.. which is sad
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Another popular thing that rogues did was use the Borov Peasant Caller trinket. I mean, you lose stealth, but they eat the trap. It was also amusing when warriors could taunt the pet and the pet would continue to attack once they froze (as they didn't include auto-disengage on a now-CC'd target until later on). Unfortunately, I don't think I ever got my Peasant Caller on my rogue and I wasn't an engineer
. My priest did the peasant caller quest... I literally kited Alexi Barov from The Bulwark all the way to Ironforge. I learned one lesson... do not take a screen shot while kiting lol (your position freezes even though you are still moving and the mob will probably hit you). Also... sometimes it's best to plan your EXACT path... I know the first time I tried, I died when crossing the river in WPL mainly because I didn't recall the points where you could simply jump up. A friend of mine in the game tried this, but couldn't do it alone... it seems you almost needed run speed and black out to do it (although black out tends to be a pain and is only helpful if you don't take a straight line which the mob will). There's also the one time I got bored and kited the Frostwolf turn-in people (the wolf and ram pelt) from their place down near Frostwolf all the way to Dun Baldar... on dial-up! I was real tricky too when it came to getting into Dun Baldar, because the Horde were out front at the bridge, so I got as close as I could to the south bunker and recalled into the base, then ran back to the south bunker and resumed my rank 1 SWP spam
. This was actually kind of hard with black out as one of the two would black out and I'd have to switch targets!I don't think I could level another 70. Unless I did it with 3x exp! My brother is doing that with two characters right now and he tells me how quests are giving him 9k exp... at level 30!
I literally ignore the ones that don't have partners. Too much of a pain sometimes to do dailies and such unless they have another person to make it easier. But it's good because I have a decent understanding of every class, although I'm certainly no expert! When I PVP on a character (say my mage)... I don't think in mage thoughts... I think like my opponent. How will he react to what I'm doing? I'm always one step ahead... woosh! Although, sometimes people know how to break away from the mold or they just learn your tricks/habits. I remember practically teaching this one druid how to beat rogues (by dueling me so often). She could always guess when I would use a blind and always timed the abolish poison so well
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Originally posted by: Chimley
I gotta say.. I've been Alliance since retail, but I've been leveling a BE Hunter on Blackrock with some guildie friends. It's like a total 180 from what I am used to. Pugs seem to work a bit better. I'm liking the different look/feel of the questing on the Horde side. And my god.. Battlegrounds are FUN again. We actually win and I catch heals and stuff. This shit was unheard of on my alliance toons. I managed to accumulate enough honor for some Season 2 pieces right as I hit 70. In fact, I'm looking forward to playing my horde toon more then raiding.. which is sad
When I my undead rogue, it makes me go "WTF?" when I do PVP. Because as Alliance, you expect there to be some uber vast difference between the two factions, but you get in there and there's almost no difference! Horde still do stupid shit, they still mess up, have quarrels in BG chat. They just win all the time :laugh:. But what's really frustrating is how when I do AV on my undead rogue we always lose... so so horribly. I swear Horde just purposely lose AV so the Alliance don't get pissy that they lose every single BG. Although, I do recall winning sometimes when our base was up further.
I did notice that.. we (lulz at "we" like I'm a real hordie ) tend to lose AV about 50% of the time. But we win almost everything else. Gnomes die good
) tend to lose AV about 50% of the time. But we win almost everything else. Gnomes die good
Originally posted by: Chimley
I did notice that.. we (lulz at "we" like I'm a real hordie
in BG9 this is not the case
the ONLY thing horde wins with any regularity is AV, its like 80%
AB is hit or miss i did some this weekend won about 50%
EOTS and WSG are auto losses for horde currently
starting the game 6v15 is AWSOME in EOTS
actually other then AV i dont think i have seen Horde start with a full group in months in any BG
Originally posted by: Chimley
I gotta say.. I've been Alliance since retail, but I've been leveling a BE Hunter on Blackrock with some guildie friends. It's like a total 180 from what I am used to. Pugs seem to work a bit better. I'm liking the different look/feel of the questing on the Horde side. And my god.. Battlegrounds are FUN again. We actually win and I catch heals and stuff. This shit was unheard of on my alliance toons. I managed to accumulate enough honor for some Season 2 pieces right as I hit 70. In fact, I'm looking forward to playing my horde toon more then raiding.. which is sad
I'm just discovering the same thing. I created a horde account using the recruit a friend promo going on (on the same server my alliance guy is).. It's like night and day. Not to say I don't see some retarted stuff in chat when I'm leveling my horde but by-and-large they seem way more polite. When people whisper me to heal for them it's not the typical "WC!?!?!".. it's "hey, do you want to heal for wailing cavern? Group is almost complete, and we've run it before incase your new" That's almost word for word what I get whispered.. on more then one occasion. It's like blizzard emails horde toons a politeness pamphlet when they create their account. Things like that, or just about every single person I put fort on as I run by takes the time to say thank you and toss thier own buff on me if they have access to one. It's quite pleasant.
Instead as alliance we have fools like Neeyo and Grubber. Sigh.
lol, just a reference to Lightninghoof peeps. Just two clowns that fill trade chat with their garbage.
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