The AT World of Warcraft Thread (Where do you play) and general BS

[Aikouka]

I posted mine in the thread awhile ago... I could list them again .

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
I posted mine in the thread awhile ago... I could list them again .

i thought i put yours in there :/

 

[Chimley]

US Skullcrusher:
(Alliance - Dark Entropy)
Chimley 70 NE Warrior (Main)
Chimlock 70 Human Warlock
Chimshock 65 Space Cow Shaman
Chimlee 70 NE Rogue
Chim 70 Gnome Mage
Cyrilla 70 NE Druid


US Blackrock:
(Horde - Stuck on Muru)
Chimlee 70 Blood Elf Hunter

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Anubis
i thought i put yours in there :/

Nope... here's the super fun list...

Alleria:
Darro - 70 Night Elf Rogue
Darron - 70 Dwarf Priest
Tieras - 70 Night Elf Warrior
Cureli - 70 Gnome Mage
Darrien - 70 Draenei Shaman
Tiramen - 70 Night Elf Hunter
Quirdan - 70 Gnome Warlock
Darrox - 70 Human Paladin
Turalon - 60 Night Elf Druid

Lightning's Blade:
Orrad - 70 Undead Rogue
??? - ?? Human Warlock (Shh, it's a secret!)

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Chimley

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: Aikouka
I also remember this one hunter that tried to beat us rogues only using melee... that was funny. But at least he wasn't one of those damn hunters that stood on a fucking trap in the middle of a flare... god I still hate that shit in duels.

i used to piss them off when i played my rogue and pop my frost reflecter and run into the trapwhich would get reflected and then go and restealth. pissed alot of them off said it was "unfair" because standing on a trap and a flare is totally fair


also the soloution to you guild issue is this, you need to reroll a horde tank (druid, war or paly) or a resto shaman on Ner'zhul and get some gear and join my guild

I gotta say.. I've been Alliance since retail, but I've been leveling a BE Hunter on Blackrock with some guildie friends. It's like a total 180 from what I am used to. Pugs seem to work a bit better. I'm liking the different look/feel of the questing on the Horde side. And my god.. Battlegrounds are FUN again. We actually win and I catch heals and stuff. This shit was unheard of on my alliance toons. I managed to accumulate enough honor for some Season 2 pieces right as I hit 70. In fact, I'm looking forward to playing my horde toon more then raiding.. which is sad

I'm hordie now and can tell you the BGs are different. I'm just over 100 resil (half T4 half S2 gear with no real enchants/gems, have enough honor to buy rest S2 but haven't decide whether to save for max at expack or buy remaining), and I can remember a couple times where some melee types jump me hard and I can see lifeblooms going off on my like I've got a couple druids playing the slots and the machine is rigged to win every pull.



the really funny thing was during an AB yesterday, it looked like a 70 warrior was in there wearing the old L60 epic armor set (all golden with fancy shoulder piece stuff). It doesn't seem to work so good nowadays as I set 2 new SB crit pvp records against him

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Chimley
I gotta say.. I've been Alliance since retail, but I've been leveling a BE Hunter on Blackrock with some guildie friends. It's like a total 180 from what I am used to. Pugs seem to work a bit better. I'm liking the different look/feel of the questing on the Horde side. And my god.. Battlegrounds are FUN again. We actually win and I catch heals and stuff. This shit was unheard of on my alliance toons. I managed to accumulate enough honor for some Season 2 pieces right as I hit 70. In fact, I'm looking forward to playing my horde toon more then raiding.. which is sad

Coincidentally I started a hunter on horde side (with friends) as well and have basically ditched my raiding guild on another server - at least till expansion.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Chimley
Gnomes die good

I like gnomes . I like how they waddle like penguins when they walk .

I have a gnome rogue & lock. They only waddle when you make them walk. I love being the center of attention when they make gnome jokes, let me tell ya. And the best feeling is when a tiny gnome kicks the tauren cow's ass and /dance.

BTW:

Black Dragonflight (PVP Alliance):
Ovechkin 70 Gnome Rogue (combat)
Owarly 70 Gnome Warlock (aff baby aff)

Elune (PVE Alliance):
Rrawrr 70 NE Druid (resto)
Albajess 64 Human Warrior (she's hot... she was also my first char but lvling a warrior blows. Playing on a PVE server blows more.)

The Forgotten Coast (PVP Horde):
BiggnBeefy 14 Cow Hunter (going BM)

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: rh71
Playing on a PVE server blows more.

No way, José. It's awesome going out and not getting ganked by nubs that couldn't beat you if you were on a level playing field. I like world PVP, I don't like ganking... which oddly enough, some people think the entire point of a PVP server is just to get ganked? .. silly people. But I guess it's understandable since world PVP has been in the shitter since 1.3 or so. Oh and I had 4 60's pre-BC (rogue, priest, warrior, mage) on a PVP server and leveled one to 70 (rogue) before I eventually left for a PVE server (while I was leveling my Shaman).

EDIT:

PVP servers weren't so bad when I leveled my rogue to 60... 'cause everyone else was the same damn level!

 

[Fingolfin269]

I love PVP servers but I wish Blizz would institute something along the lines of the WAR system. If you're 70 and running around in Badlands ganking newbs it would be hilarious if you turned into a critter...

 

[Chimley]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I love PVP servers but I wish Blizz would institute something along the lines of the WAR system. If you're 70 and running around in Badlands ganking newbs it would be hilarious if you turned into a critter...

That would be kinda cool. I don't mind the ganking "too" much.. but sometimes it empowers kiddies too much to make other people miserable.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Chimley

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I love PVP servers but I wish Blizz would institute something along the lines of the WAR system. If you're 70 and running around in Badlands ganking newbs it would be hilarious if you turned into a critter...

That would be kinda cool. I don't mind the ganking "too" much.. but sometimes it empowers kiddies too much to make other people miserable.

yea ive never understood how people can get off on ruining someone elses gaming expirence

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: Anubis
yea ive never understood how people can get off on ruining someone elses gaming expirence

I find it amusing that if you ask a ganker if they enjoy being ganked, none of them will say "yes, I am a sadist and love the torture!" The hypocrisy is abounding!

New Warrior Stuffs:

Hello Warriors,

I?ve got a sneak preview of things coming up in the beta for you to discuss. We still have lots of polish and bug fixing to do and we?re still wrestling with a few elements of the warrior abilities and talents so do not consider this an exhaustive list. As always, post any concerns or suggestions you have.

General

* Enraged Assault redesigned, now Enraged Regeneration: You regenerate 30% of your total health over 10 sec. This ability consumes all Enrage effects and prevents any from affecting you for the full duration. Must be enraged to use. Cost 15 rage, 3 min cooldown.
* Slam ? We?re working to change this ability to suspend the swing timer when you are using the ability. In other words, if you?re .5 sec away from swinging your weapon when you start using Slam you?ll be .5 sec from swinging your weapon after Slam goes off.


Arms

* Improved Charge now generates 5/10 rage.
* Mace Specialization now ignores 3/6/9/12/15% of target?s armor.
* Sudden Death and Trauma swapped locations.
* Bladestorm now lasts 6 seconds, causing a whirlwind every second.


Protection

* Toughness now also reduces duration of movement slowing effects by 10/20/30/40/50%.
* Improved Sunder Armor renamed Puncture, reduced to 2 ranks for 1/2 rage cost reduction.
* Improved Disarm reduced to 2 ranks, now reduces the cooldown of Disarm by 10/20 sec and increases damage taken by disarmed targets by 5/10%.
* Improved Defensive Stance reduced to 2 ranks, now reduces spell damage taken by 3/6% and any block/parry/dodge has a 50/100% chance to enrage the warrior causing 5/10% more damage for 12 sec.
* Vigilance will soon transfer the 10% threat lost to the warrior. It will also have 3 charges to curb using it on targets that are being hit constantly. We?re still polishing this element to get it to feel right.
* (NEW) Warbringer is a new one point talent on Tier 9 that allows Charge to be used in combat. Did I mention the change to Improved Charge?
* Critical Block now also increases your chance to critically hit with your Shield Slam by 5/10/15%.
* Sword and Board no longer triggers when Shield Slam is used, but the chance to trigger has increased to 3/6/9/12/15%. Note these are not final numbers.


Fury

* Intensify Rage and Precision swapped locations.
* Enrage now increases damage done by 3/6/9/12/15%, limitation on number of attacks removed.
* Improved Whirlwind now increases damage of Whirlwind by 10/20%, no longer reduces cooldown.
* Furious Attacks changed to use PPM (procs per minute) to make it trigger at the same rate regardless of weapon speed. Note that dual-wielding and haste still improve your chances.
* Titan?s Grip still needs a counterbalancing element, but what it will entail and how severe it will be is still being evaluated.


To answer a few questions:

* Yes, I meant Furious Attacks, not Focused Attacks.
* Some notes are already in the beta, some are not updated yet on the calculator so wanted to give additional visibility to anyone else reading the forums.
* Warbringer: What we don't want to see is Charge becoming part of a tanking rotation. At the moment it will remain usable only in Battle Stance. An experimental idea to be sure.
* Stance Dancing: The short answer here is we want just the right amount of it.
* Final numbers are not in yet for the various talent trees. We want all trees to be viable in PvP and PvE so expect further number tuning across all classes/specs.
* The important upcoming change to Vigilance is the threat transfer. 10% of the target's generated threat will go to your threat total.
* Bladestorm consuming rage every second is a bug that's been fixed.

New Rogue Stuffs:

Here?s a quick update on some additional changes we?ve made over the weekend. Most of these, but not all, will be in the next beta build.

General

* Cloak of Shadows cooldown changed to 1.5 min.
* Disarm Trap range increased to 20 yds, cast time reduced to 1 sec, now requires stealth.
* (NEW ? Level 75) Tricks of the Trade: The current party or raid member becomes the target of your Tricks of the Trade. The threat caused by your next attack and all actions taken for 6 sec afterwards will be transferred to the target. In addition, all damage caused by the target is increased by 15% during this time. 30 sec cooldown. (Surprise! Yes, this is the new group/raid utility ability. We haven?t put any stacking protection on it yet but we?ll need one type of solution or other to prevent the need for 5 rogue Trick rotations. Note also that you cannot use this ability on yourself.)


Assassination

* Vigor moved to Tier 3.
* Relentless Strikes moved to Subtlety Tier 1, made 5 ranks for 4/8/12/16/20% chance.
* Murder moved to Tier 6, now increases damage by 2/4%.
* (NEW ? Tier 7) Overkill: Abilities used while stealthed and for 6 seconds after breaking stealth cost 10 less energy.
* Focused Attacks and Turn the Tables have swapped locations.
* Master Poisoner moved to Tier 9, no longer increases chance to hit with poison attacks, now increases the critical hit chance of all attacks made against any target you have poisoned by 1/2/3% and reduces the duration of all Poison effects applied to you by 17/34/50%. (This does not stack with the Paladin talent Heart of the Crusader.)
* Hunger for Blood duration increased to 30 seconds.


Combat

* Precision now also increases chance to hit with poison attacks by 1/2/3/4/5%.
* Nerves of Steel will now reduce damage taken while stunned or feared by 15/30% rather than reducing duration.
* Improved Sprint moved to Tier 4.
* Blade Twisting now slows movement speed by 70%.
* Mace Specialization now ignores 3/6/9/12/15% of target?s armor.
* Throwing Specialization now also has a chance to interrupt target when Fan of Knives is used.
* Unfair Advantage: Whenever you dodge an attack you strike back for 50/100% of your main hand weapon?s damage.
* Stay of Execution removed, replaced with Blood Poisoning.
* (NEW ? Tier 9) Blood Poisoning: All physical damage caused to enemies you have poisoned is increased by 1/2%.
* Prey on the Weak now increases critical strike damage of all attacks.
* Killing Spree is the new name for Murder Spree and should be working much better very soon.


Subtlety

* Shadowstep will no longer be usable while rooted.
* Elusiveness moved to Tier 3, now reduces cooldown of Cloak of Shadows by 15/30 sec.
* Premeditation cooldown reduced to 20 sec.
* Preparation no longer refreshes the cooldown to Premeditation.
* Master of Deception reduced to 3 ranks.
* Opportunity reduces to 2 ranks for 10/20%.
* Camouflage reduced to 3 ranks for 5/10/15% speed and 2/4/6 sec off the cooldown of Stealth.
* Initiative moved to Tier 4, increased to 33/66/100% chance.
* Improved Ambush moved to Tier 4, reduced to 2 ranks for 25/50%.
* Serrated Blades moved to Tier 3.
* Wrongfully Accused replaced with Filthy Tricks.
* (NEW ? Tier 9) Filthy Tricks: Reduces the cooldown of your Tricks of the Trade and Distract abilities by 5/10 sec.
* Slaughter from the Shadows now also reduces the energy cost of your Hemorrhage ability by 1/2/3/4/5.
* Shadow Dance redesigned, now allows the use of Sap, Garrote, Ambush, Cheap Shot, Premeditation, Pickpocket and Disarm Trap regardless of being stealthed. Those abilities all gain a cooldown of 2 sec. Lasts 10 sec.

Priest/Warlock Stuffs:

We'll be increasing Mind Flay's coefficient (base) by roughly 30% to start, and allow Mind Flay to crit. We may also do some tuneups to the Shadow tree as well, but as other players have mentioned the tree is really not the problem, just the base spells not scaling.

Hopefully we can get the new Mind Flay in the next build, but allowing it to crit involves rebuilding the spell completely, which may take some time.

Please tell me you're going to give Affliction similar treatment.
Something similar, yes.

The Daily Blues:

Fear break mechanics
Hex (and Fear, Entangling Roots, Freezing Trap etc.) is intended to break after a flat amount of damage relative to your HP pool, that may not currently be functioning as intended. (Source)

Holiday Achievements
We might do this. We're still working heavily on the holiday achievements. In the next build, you'll see a lot of changes to the Winter Veil stuff as well as a lot of new Love Is In The Air achievements. (Source)

Argent Champion Title (Exalted with Argent Dawn / Argent Crusade)
We recently added Argent Champion as a title. It will be in the next build. (Source)

Death Knight
Blood of the North changes
We changed BoTN to be 3 ranks. That will leave Frost with not quite enough ranks in that tier for the moment though. (Source)

Blood Tree and DPS balancing
I think that summarizes what I am trying to say pretty well. If Blood's dps is too low compared to the other trees, I would just like to see Blood's dps increase, but not necessarily all through MoM. Remember a couple of builds ago, everyone was Blood. So I don't think Blood's dps dropped dramatically as much as the other two overshadowed it.

Putting Obliterate back on MoM and into DRM is something we might consider though, and when we get around to a numbers pass, I expect to find that Obliterate (and possibly Death Strike) still too weak. (Source)

Dark Command / Death Grip shared cooldown intended ?
Bug. (Source)

Talent synergy and Death Knight high DPS
There is nothing wrong with good talent synergy. If, however, the death knight dps is too high compared to other classes, then either the talents need to come down or the abilities need to come down. A few players have made compelling (but not irrefutable) arguments that Scourge Strike for example can hit really hard because its damage is improved by so many talents. That's why I mentioned the talent synergy potentially (key word) being too good.

While I suspect DK dps is too high, I can't state it for a certainty because we haven't finished our analysis yet. That's why I try to be cautious when I say it. Some of those crits are really, really big though.

I do think the class should still be closer to the fewer big hits of an MS warrior than the many smaller hits of a rogue. I think we can keep that. (Source)

Death Knight threat generation
Threat should scale with gear very well for the death knight. I say that because the DK has very few +threat abilities, especially compared to a warrior. They are built much more like a Prot paladin, whose threat scales enormously well with gear.

Even the warrior's abilities should scale better in LK though. Sunder does more threat based on AP for example.

We'll do a sanity pass on the DK numbers and see where we are. I don't think it's going to mean nerfing everything across the board. It wasn't that long ago players loved Heart Strike and Obliterate so I don't think we're talking about burning anything to the ground and starting over. (Source)

 

[lupi]

Hey look, more buffs to classes that don't end in lock.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: lupi
Hey look, more buffs to classes that don't end in lock.

Please tell me you're going to give Affliction similar treatment.
Something similar, yes.

So most likely some Warlock DoTs will crit. Fantastic... now I get to be fear kited and die even faster. Except it looks like they're changing CC breakage to be based on the amount of HP the caster has, but I wonder what the number is.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: lupi
Hey look, more buffs to classes that don't end in lock.

im pretty sure we will be nerfed into totaly uselessness before we get a single buff

based on all the wrath info so far and those i know who are in beta we really arnt far from that point at all

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: lupi
Hey look, more buffs to classes that don't end in lock.

im pretty sure we will be nerfed into totaly uselessness before we get a single buff

based on all the wrath info so far and those i know who are in beta we really arnt far from that point at all

To be fair, Blizz has already announced that changes to the Lock class are coming and the speculation is buffs.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: lupi
Hey look, more buffs to classes that don't end in lock.

Please tell me you're going to give Affliction similar treatment.
Something similar, yes.

So most likely some Warlock DoTs will crit. Fantastic... now I get to be fear kited and die even faster. Except it looks like they're changing CC breakage to be based on the amount of HP the caster has, but I wonder what the number is.

They talked about allowing channelled spells to crit. Forgetting that drain mana can no longer do damage, drain life racking up some leet crits will really make up for nuetering of the pets and removal of the utility in many of the other spells/talents.

 

[Aikouka]

Originally posted by: lupi
They talked about allowing channelled spells to crit. Forgetting that drain mana can no longer do damage, drain life racking up some leet crits will really make up for nuetering of the pets and removal of the utility in many of the other spells/talents.

They were talking about one of a class's main spells for DPS... just because it's channeled doesn't mean they won't alter DoTs.

 

[QuantumPion]

I need some guild drama advice. I'm one of the main tanks for our 2/6 SWP guild. However, the guild has been really stagnant since some of the popular members left a few months ago. We've been barely trudging along, only doing ~2 hours of felmyst attempts per week lately. There's also been a lot of guild drama and general officer BS. The top guild on my faction/server recently told me they would recruit me if I was interested in joining them. They are currently working on KJ, and I have 1 or 2 friends from my current guild that moved there a while ago.

Do you think I should take up the offer and move? It's really a tough decision for me, since I've been in my current guild for almost 2 years. I'd feel really sad about leaving them. But on the other hand, there are only a few people I would actually miss, and raiding with the rest of them just hasn't been fun since May/June-ish, it's just been a chore. I really want to see the end game content before WOTLK hits.

I figure that in my current guild my tanking job can be replaced (although not nearly as well of course). Also, some of my friends that are keeping me in my current guild will probably quit WoW when WotLK comes out anyway. And I've always wanted to be in a top-tier guild for once, instead of always being in the black-sheep guild that is constantly stuck on content.

I guess I'm just trying to convince myself it's ok to move on. What do you guys think?

 

[Anubis]

sounds like its time to move on

however you are a tank you say, play horde by chance?

 

[QuantumPion]

Originally posted by: Anubis
sounds like its time to move on

however you are a tank you say, play horde by chance?

alliance care bear

 

[Chimley]

There comes a time where you have to really ask yourself.. are you enjoying the game in your current situation or are you miserable?

I faced a similiar situation in May. My wife plays WoW with me, and we've been in the same guild pretty much throughout BC. There was some drama and disagreements that resulted in my wife leaving the server to join another guild. I stayed behind and stuck with the guild.

Fast foward a month or so, and my wife transfered back to the server and joined another Alliance guild. During the time she's been gone, I'd been loyal, but miserable. I enjoy playing the game with her, and it felt.. empty playing the game. The GM of the guild she joined offered me a spot with them as one of the tanks. After careful consideration, I left a WoW guild for the first time and joined them. I just didn't see a point in wallowing where I wasn't enjoying myself.

Loyality is one thing, but enjoying the game is another. Make no mistake, you'll have your share of haters for moving on. That's unavoidable I'm afraid. There are people in my old guild who I once considered "friends" who won't speak to me and consider me a sellout. It hurts for a bit but in the long run, you'll be happier.

Good luck

 

[Aikouka]

As mentioned, one of the top things to consider is that it is a game overall and the purpose of playing a game is to have fun. If you are no longer having fun in your current state, it may be time to move on to somewhere you think you can have fun. But the only thing I'd worry about is how the new guild may not be much fun for ya as you may think.

Oh and I have to say, when looking at those rogue changes I completely missed the major QQ causer in there... Relentless Strikes being made into a 5 point talent (it's currently a 1 point talent) and being moved to Tier 1 in Subtlety (it's currently Tier 3 in Assassination). Hunger for Blood was also changed to nerf the viability in PVP where I liked the PVE viability of magic effects versus the now physical effects. For example, say you're fighting Vexallus and instead of having to pop CloS to remove the damaging effect, you can pop HfB that would remove it (But you'd still have a +damage effect from HfB). I really can't think of too many fights off the top of my head that place physical effects on the user.

 

[Xavier434]

Playing a game that you are regularly not having fun playing shocks me. Playing a game that you are regularly not having fun playing while paying a monthly fee completely blows my mind.

 

[invidia]

Originally posted by: QuantumPion
I need some guild drama advice. I'm one of the main tanks for our 2/6 SWP guild. However, the guild has been really stagnant since some of the popular members left a few months ago. We've been barely trudging along, only doing ~2 hours of felmyst attempts per week lately. There's also been a lot of guild drama and general officer BS. The top guild on my faction/server recently told me they would recruit me if I was interested in joining them. They are currently working on KJ, and I have 1 or 2 friends from my current guild that moved there a while ago.

Do you think I should take up the offer and move? It's really a tough decision for me, since I've been in my current guild for almost 2 years. I'd feel really sad about leaving them. But on the other hand, there are only a few people I would actually miss, and raiding with the rest of them just hasn't been fun since May/June-ish, it's just been a chore. I really want to see the end game content before WOTLK hits.

I figure that in my current guild my tanking job can be replaced (although not nearly as well of course). Also, some of my friends that are keeping me in my current guild will probably quit WoW when WotLK comes out anyway. And I've always wanted to be in a top-tier guild for once, instead of always being in the black-sheep guild that is constantly stuck on content.

I guess I'm just trying to convince myself it's ok to move on. What do you guys think?

Move on to another guild or find something else to do. I had my share of being in guilds like yours ever since I started back in vanilla release.

Yes you may recruit more, but that generally does not stay together for long. Recruiting more just lengthens learning time for the new members (both in fights and getting adapted to others' play styles.)