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Anubis
No Lifer
lots of places have it unlocked
http://us.gorgonnash.info/
http://us.gorgonnash.info/
hey guys,
after playing 2 different caster class, am leveling a shmana as meele and its fun killing stuff with a huge axe!! 😛
just wanted to know how are shamans required for in pve content at lvl 70.I would like to stay enhancement.due to the lack of cc are we not wanted?
Also what abt gear? i mean what kind of stats are important for leveling and instance?
Also have herbalism and alchemy currently. but what are good professions for an enhancement shamans?
I have read elitist jerk, but i think the theorycrafting is valid when you have very very good gear.
Any kind of help is appreciated.
after playing 2 different caster class, am leveling a shmana as meele and its fun killing stuff with a huge axe!! 😛
just wanted to know how are shamans required for in pve content at lvl 70.I would like to stay enhancement.due to the lack of cc are we not wanted?
Also what abt gear? i mean what kind of stats are important for leveling and instance?
Also have herbalism and alchemy currently. but what are good professions for an enhancement shamans?
I have read elitist jerk, but i think the theorycrafting is valid when you have very very good gear.
Any kind of help is appreciated.
most guilds take one enhancement shaman per 25 man for windfury. resto shamans have a much better chance of moving into end game content since chain heal is ridiculously good.
As far as professions, anything outside of tailoring should work. I'd go for BS and get stormherald if you plan on taking your shaman that far.
As far as professions, anything outside of tailoring should work. I'd go for BS and get stormherald if you plan on taking your shaman that far.
You already mentioned the elitist jerks, their enhancement resources are
http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20765-shaman_enhancement
http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t1...orks_theorycraft_vol_i
The theorycrafting is still valid at every level once you're level 70 for enhancement.
A couple of key points for PVE.
Dual wield > twohanders. Windfury weapon on both weapons, and favor slow one handers vs fast one handers, even in spite of dps differences. (Green level 70 65dps 2.6 weapon is better than an epic 80 dps 1.6 speed dagger).
As for actual gear use http://www.lootrank.com/wow/rank.asp with the appropriate stat weights from the ej pages:
As mentioned, most raid guilds in 25man content use a single enhancement, not neccesarily for windfury (since a restoration shaman can provide that) but for improved totems, unleashed rage, and the ability to twist both windfury and grace of air for a stacked melee group. (Judgement of wisdom and shamanistic rage make this possible mana wise)
Enhancement with the proper gear are ahead of other classes on the power curve in late t4 and early t5 content, and will do very good individual dps in addition to supporting the raid.
The quickest way to get very good weapons, is to use honor to buy the season 1 pvp one-hand axes. They're incredible vs almost any other non-raid weapon. The blacksmithing path is also very good as the main hand one-handed mace is very good as well with the haste proc and is competitive with high end raid drops.
I don't understand why you don't just have a war or druid grab the naga as a they spawn and drag them to the middle. From there they can either continue to tank them or another tank can pull the naga off the war/druid so that they can grab another naga or continue to dps.
No DPS on the naga? I wouldn't recommend doing that. Naga DPS should not be a high priority but it still needs to happen. Even if you manage to survive and get to P3, you will have a lot of Naga to worry about at that point along with poison poops + AE roots to avoid. Remember that there is a soft enrage timer where the bats start pooping poison at ridiculous speeds. Leaving the Naga until this phase means you have less time to kill Vashj before this soft enrage.
Just do this. Create your DPS + healer groups for each quadrant. Make sure each quadrant gets one ranged dps, one melee dps, and one healer. Pick your two kiters. Put everyone else in the middle. If you are ranged in the middle then DPS striders. If you are melee dps then dps naga and enchanted elementals. If you are a tank in the middle then ensure you keep the naga under control which includes dragging them to the middle. This all just makes sense.
***EDIT***
Also, make sure the ranged DPS in each quadrant hit the striders while they are in range by at least applying DoTs. Their kill priority should be the following:
Tainted -> Striders -> Enchanted Elementals
It means they all need to pay attention to their surroundings and multi task swiftly and accurately, but that level of challenge is apart of any strat which consistently works on Vashj. This is why she is considered to be very hard.
Aikouka
Lifer
All locks are the same... all I need to do is time your DC and keep my tremor down among other totems and you'll have a hell of a time beating me. Hell, the only chance you have of beating me is Howl of Terror -> Fear (although you may choose to DC then Fear, but that'd probably be silly) but then I'd just trinket and you'd try to DC and Fear me again 🙂 (cause you know I'd just ES a silly fear). Not to mention, once you waste DC, I can use GT to absorb your fears.
I'm already 5 global cooldowns head of you, son! 😛
Hell, it's so bad that when I PVP on characters like my rogue, I literally run out of range of the priest, watch him fear (duh) and just run back in. I'm literally in their brainz, readin' their moves! People need to be a little more unorthodox so I can't read them as easily.
Makes sense, but the way I look at it is that sort of problem can happen in a lot of fights where adds spawn. Tanks need to learn to compensate for that issue. It's their job so they should know how to do it. That plus healer aggro is not reliable at all. It's far too inconsistent especially in a healing intensive fight such as Vashj. You don't want to take a healer's attention away from their primary duties in order to try and pull aggro for a tank.
It helps a lot during the learning curve phase but it isn't required. If you have it then use it. People should be working to get it anyways if you plan to tackle Archimonde. I recommend those with low hp wear more stam gear and your healers really need to be on the ball when it comes to Target of Target healing or else he will kill random members in your raid very quick.
Also, I edited my last post about Vashj that was in response to your guild's feedback so check it out.
Aikouka
Lifer
/tar totem
/petattack?
Unfortunately, my character's name is Totem!!! Okay maybe not, but it's not like I can't kill your pet. Once that happens, there's no way you can stop me from healing other than the pansy fear! 😛 (or making it take longer but that doesn't stop it)
So it looks like I'm not the only one that doesn't auto spell-lock 😛. This one destro lock dueled me and he was all succubi'ing me and he goes to soul fire and when it's almost done, I just /rofl and spell lock him. Only time he beat me was when he got feared into the Shatt neutral zone 🙁.
So i'll grab the 5min one for tonight and work on getting the large one in the upcoming month.
I did see your response, and I relayed it back to our guild. We had something similiar to that setup except everyone was to dps the nagas and just dot the strider when possible. We also only had 3 sections instead of 4 quadrants which made it difficult to control all the elementals.
Anubis
No Lifer
and yes you can attack the pet, but attacking the pet means you arnt attacking me which means you are being dotted/im wanding a totem or im just gonna cast something else on you
its really funny when warriors attack the pet, because a good healer will heal it, and unless you 1 shot it you arnt doing yourself any good
auto spelllock has its use sometimes its just easier to sick it on a healer or caster and let it auto lock/devour, but in a small setting 1v1 or 2v2 theres no need to
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