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I've been gone from WoW for couple of months now and have no interest in playing it again in its current form, but seeing those WotLK talents trees got me excited about maybe playing my Rogue and Prot Warrior again when the expansion arrived. Rogue's Murder Spree and Shadow Dance sound really fun!
Aikouka
Lifer
It's really not so bad if you consider flurry as well. But I'm not entirely sure Titan Grip will really be that worthwhile. When you consider Fury damage... your damage is mostly based on attack power as the only thing you have that really uses your weapon damage is Whirlwind. So.. my question is... would it just be better to get something like Sword Specialization and stay capped at Rampage? Talking about a build kinda like this...
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?talent=LhGIzhb0xZVx0VtxRVubxo
I think Heroic Leap looks like more of a fun ability... it's like a free Warstomp for everbodies! 😀 But in PVE raiding, heroic leap will probably serve as useless since you can just intercept to close in on a mob (even if they're immune to stun).
Malladine
Diamond Member
Last night was cool, did Gruul's for the first time with the guild, downed him on 3 tries, barely. What's next after Gruul's is on farm?? Also, what's the timer for that instance?
Also i'm thinking maybe I should just go to protection and stay there. I was seriously out damaged by most other classes, though their gear was better i suppose. The other dps war had amazing gear too. That said, I suppose changing spec to give myself Imp Heroic Strike would help with raid damage...
My warrior
Also i'm thinking maybe I should just go to protection and stay there. I was seriously out damaged by most other classes, though their gear was better i suppose. The other dps war had amazing gear too. That said, I suppose changing spec to give myself Imp Heroic Strike would help with raid damage...
My warrior
Anubis
No Lifer
1) traditionally progression was like this
5 mans - heroics - kara - Gruul/mag - SSC/TK - hyjal/BT
now it looks like this
5 mans - heroics + kara - LOL BADGE LOOT + ZA - Hyjal/BT
but honestly prog go and try mag ZA or the first bosses in SSC or TK after farming Gruul for a bit
its on a 1 week reset as are all 25 mans
Aikouka
Lifer
Well, I see a couple issues in your build and you mentioned one of them in your post. Here's what you should have:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=LG0IzhbZVx0VxxRVuqo
- Heroic Strike serves as a rage dump for when you have more than 40 rage. You want Improved Heroic Strike.
- You also want Weapon Mastery as it serves a purpose similar to expertise (except it doesn't affect parry).
- You also want a point in Improved Whirlwind.
You also need to use axes. You're an orc, so whenever you use an axe, you gain +5 expertise for that hand. Also, don't forget to use your Blood Fury racial as it provides 282 attack power for 15 seconds. Just make sure you don't use it when you will need teh mad healz.
Also, check out some of your gems and enchants. You want +strength instead of +attack power. You also shouldn't be gemming +hit unless you're below 6% (or 9% if you do not have the Precision talent). I'm also not a huge fan of the wrath card... especially since you have nearly 28% chance to crit. You'd do wonders if you had the card from the Blessings Deck (especially since it's flat AP and fury warriors :heart: the AP).
So for slots to work on...
Helm: Get rid of +8 resilience and get +4 strength / +4 crit strike rating instead.
Neck: Not a bad piece, but keep your eyes open for and purpz. The SSO neck may actually be better for you because of the +AP proc (and since you have the exalted Aldor shoulder enchant, you will be able to proc it).
Shoulders: A green gem? Naughty naughty 😉.
Chest: If I remember correctly, one of those gem slots is red... I would have put +8 strength in that, not another crit/strength gem. Essentially, always gem flat strength, unless you really want the socket bonus, which even on that chest piece... I'd be tempted to ignore the +crit and just go with pure strength. I haven't really made up my mind on my warrior when I get the S2 version. Also, get +6 stats, not +health. +6 stats not only provides crit and AP, but also health.
Wrist: Not bad, but just keep your eyes out for something better. Don't be afraid to take leather!!
MH/OH: As mentioned above, focus on slow (2.6->2.8 speed) axes. Also, Mongoose is your friend once you get some good axes. I personally recommend just PVPing to get the Merciless Gladiator's Hacker as they're about equivalent to T5 gear. The weapon alone provides +16dps over your current MH.
Ranged: Just keep yer eyes open.
Hands: I'm not a huge fan of the PVP gloves. I'd recommend shooting for the T4 gloves or some leather gloves out of Kara. Also, go with +15 strength in this slot.
Waist: Not a bad piece, but keep your eyes open for upgrades. I'd recommend crafting the Red Belt of Battle if you have some extra mats (it's BoE) as it's not really that hard to make (4 hardened adamantite bars, 15 primal fire, 2 nether vortex).
Legs: Not a bad piece, just keep your eyes open for upgrades. Also, use the cobra leg patches instead of the clefthoof. Again, don't be afraid to hit up leather gear. You may be interested in the Skulker's Greaves from Karazhan and gemming them with 3x +8 strength.
Feet: Gemming +hit... naughty! 😛 Yet again, look out for leather gear from Kara and stuff.
Fingers: Doing more and more Kara will upgrade your Kara ring. Also try getting the ring off Prince.
Trinkets: Try getting something like Bloodlust's Brooch. During Brewfest, you will be able to get a trinket that is like BB off Coren Direbrew. Brewfest starts in the middle of September. Also, like I mentioned, you may be interested in the Crusade card ( http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31856 ) rather than wrath. Wrath just doesn't do well for classes that have high amounts of crit.
So, wow is growing kind of stale. My guild is in such a flux that 1 day we'll kill the first 2 bosses in hyjal + fist boss in BT. The next we won't be able to down a boss in TK. Tons of people leaving, new people joining, etc.
I think I might just stick with PVP until WotLK, anyone have a projected date of when that might be?
I think I might just stick with PVP until WotLK, anyone have a projected date of when that might be?
Malladine
Diamond Member
Awesome Aikouka, thanks for the advice.
I agree with you on the Wrath card, the name is more than half what inclined me to pick that card, lol. Blessings = Crusade? What would I be looking at do you think for all those cards?
I suppose +5 expertise is better than 0...
Buying all these gems and enchants is keeping me poor 🙁 i still dont have my elite flyer!
What does Cobra give over Clefthoof?
I think Merc weapons is my next stop, the MH axe anyway!
I agree with you on the Wrath card, the name is more than half what inclined me to pick that card, lol. Blessings = Crusade? What would I be looking at do you think for all those cards?
I suppose +5 expertise is better than 0...
I was thinking the Shattered necklace from exalted with the Quel'danas faction would be a good upgrade, and fairly easy to get.
Buying all these gems and enchants is keeping me poor 🙁 i still dont have my elite flyer!
What does Cobra give over Clefthoof?
I think Merc weapons is my next stop, the MH axe anyway!
Aikouka
Lifer
2000g
Blessings is the most expensive of all the decks. I was lucky and had two aces, so I just sold one and put the money toward buying more cards. Looking back on that, I probably should've just saved the other ace and gave it to my warrior. I originally was only planning on having my Priest and Shaman raid-worthy, but now it's my Priest, Shaman, Mage and Warrior 😛.
Definitely, expertise is one of the best things to get until you hit the "cap" of... I think it's about 6%.
Definitely a good upgrade since you have exalted and are Aldor. I'm not a huge fan of the scryer procs though (they're always a direct damage or heal), so I won't be getting it on my Warrior.
That's the one nice thing about having a 372 enchanter and a 372 Jewelcrafter (especially since my JC knows +strength and +str/+crit).
Cobra is +AP/+crit (mostly being AP). The Nethercobra sells for about 500g, but if you can farm the 8 primal airs, the 4 cobra scales (Blizzard seems to have stealth buffed the drop rate on these, I got 4 in maybe 30 minutes?) and pay the miniscule amount for the leather... you're golden.
Definitely worthwhile. I think I'm going for the chest next on my warrior or maybe the weapons. I need the gem slots in the chest to help keep my meta "alive", but I could ignore the +20 AP for now (I'm going to replace it with the +12 agility and +crit damage, which is the best DPS meta) and just get the Axe so I can finally go Fury. The only reason I'd want to stay Arms is because getting 20 EotS tokens as Alliance is painful 😛.
I started doing EotS on my Paladin so I could be ready to get the Merciless Gladiator's Gavel at 70 and I was hoping we'd actually win EotS... nope. We're even worse than we are in the 70 bracket. People were just fighting between Mage Tower and Draenei Ruins! But that's not necessarily a bad thing. If we're going to lose, I'd rather lose quickly, which we definitely don't take 20+ minutes to lose like we do at 70. I do kinda of hate how my Paladin is just utterly useless at BGs as a prot paladin though... I'd be decent in (the PVE portion of) AV if I were well-geared and 70.
EDIT:
Beta came out maybe a month or two earlier than TBC's beta, so I'm betting probably November/December. Blizzard needs to get new content out or they face the stagnant game problems that they tend to have between patches (where it is mostly the hardcorez that complain about having nothing to do).
I kind of wish I knew when the expansion were coming out... I need to schedule my week of vacation :laugh:. I also wish they'd put up Blizzcon ticket sales... I'm thinking about actually going this year.
Anubis
No Lifer
blessings deck price is dependent on server they go for under 1500 on mine
if WOTLK isnt out by xmass itll be a late jan release like BC most likely, and honestly the longer the better, because BC really shoudl have been released 3-6 months later seeing as how buggy/broken everything was on release
if WOTLK isnt out by xmass itll be a late jan release like BC most likely, and honestly the longer the better, because BC really shoudl have been released 3-6 months later seeing as how buggy/broken everything was on release
Aikouka
Lifer
The problem in TBC was that you had probably around 80%+ of a server in a single zone. This won't be the same in WotLK as they have two different zones to start in so you'll only have maybe 40% of the entire server in a single zone :laugh:. Personally, my first goal is to start a Death Knight and take it to 80 first. I really want the beta first though so I can understand how to play the class properly so maybe the "second" time that I have to level it won't be as painful.
I think I'm going to go with a Human Death Knight as Death Knights are human bodies with orc souls in them... also if I want to do PVE, the sword racial bonus would be nice 🙂.
EDIT:
As for the blessings deck... Alleria is horribly overpriced... like Circuit City on computer hardware overpriced. They're still trying to sell the [Design: Teardrop Living Ruby] for over 2000g a piece. Yet they always drop down to near 1000g and then for some strange reason shoot back up. I offered someone 850g to buy it, but didn't get anything back... and hell, 850g is still a rip-off as God knows I'll never get that much back unless I literally stalk trade chat and sift through the barrage of "Anal [Barrage]" (yes, the new trade chat game on Alleria is taking "anal" and putting a link after it ~_~).
Anubis
No Lifer
it really had nothing to do with the people shit was just messed up
quest that were bugged or just didnt work
instances bugged out constantly same with bosses
pre multy nerf bosses were basicially unkillable
loot was horriable and many times worse then lvl 60 epics, they had to retool this twice
edit: also then they went and changed the way elixirs and shit worked, all of that shoudl have been done before BC was released
quest that were bugged or just didnt work
instances bugged out constantly same with bosses
pre multy nerf bosses were basicially unkillable
loot was horriable and many times worse then lvl 60 epics, they had to retool this twice
edit: also then they went and changed the way elixirs and shit worked, all of that shoudl have been done before BC was released
Vonkhan
Diamond Member
n00b question -
Whats a good enhancement for a helmet? I'm lvl 70 hunter and my only interest is PvP ...
Armory link: http://www.wowarmory.com/chara...xml?r=Maiev&n=Roczilla
Whats a good enhancement for a helmet? I'm lvl 70 hunter and my only interest is PvP ...
Armory link: http://www.wowarmory.com/chara...xml?r=Maiev&n=Roczilla
Aikouka
Lifer
I didn't really have all these troubles that you're mentioning. The only problem I had was how I crashed whenever I went into an Arrakoa village, but I believe that was an nVidia driver issue. I don't recall much of the loot being changed though, but frankly, most of the loot sucks from an itemization standpoint and for some classes, I doubt this will change until Blizzard makes some radical class changes (mainly looking at Enhancement Shamans vs Hunters).
The only quest I can remember that was bugged was Xavathras' Flute in Felwood... it wouldn't drop for Draenei. Also, Draenei couldn't get a new Argent Dawn Commission if they dropped theirs.
EDIT:
If you need resilience, you can go with the SSO helm "enchant." If you don't really need resilience, you can go with the Cenarion Expedition helm "enchant."
BassBomb
Diamond Member
Well today is my BDAY and my bud who still plays WoW might be getting me a gamecard. I have not played since 2.4 (pre s4)
Asimo on Azuremyst if you want to armory me
I am thinking of respeccing, any tips on what to do? I have always been 41/20 or 41/0/20 because it does well in PVE and still decent in PVP. After all the shadowstep changes I hear it is the top.
What should I do or what gear should I aim for?
Asimo on Azuremyst if you want to armory me
I am thinking of respeccing, any tips on what to do? I have always been 41/20 or 41/0/20 because it does well in PVE and still decent in PVP. After all the shadowstep changes I hear it is the top.
What should I do or what gear should I aim for?
exdeath
Lifer
Hope it's delayed as long as possible. I never made end game at level 60 because I was late to the game opening my account 3 months before TBC.
We've just about got Muru down this time around and still need to do KJ, but it would still be nice to farm it out for a few months after our first kills and take a break and not be rushed into new content right away. WTB 8/8 T6 just for novelty since I never finished my Judgment set and never saw Naxx 🙁
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