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Childs

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Now the game crashes within 2 minutes of joining a game every time. Different bullshit error message every time. I'm thinking about just getting a refund.

I was watching this dudes stream and he and his buddy were on a tear. Must have had 15-20k points. As they were complaining about the high cost (UK prices must be higher) and bugs in the game in between their kills, the server crashed! Kinda funny in a way, but not really. During that one round he ranked up, unlocked a handgun, grenade and rifle, as well as vehicle stuff. Might suck even more if he was using a good XP booster.

I was kinda annoyed yesterday when quite a few servers had set low tickets, so the rounds were like 5 min or less for rush. Everyone was complaining, but the admin said any more tickets just increases the likelihood of a crash. Since I am mainly playing for points now, I guess thats a smart move.
 

QuantumPion

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Jun 27, 2005
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What I find odd and hard to describe is how half the servers I can dominate on as usual, I typically come in first place. But some servers I just go 0-10 until I give up from insta-dying to people half way across the map, three rooms over, etc. It's like on some servers I am completely desynchronized from the other players and the netcode lag is not just a matter of milliseconds, but 5+ second gap between player actions.
 

Childs

Lifer
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What I find odd and hard to describe is how half the servers I can dominate on as usual, I typically come in first place. But some servers I just go 0-10 until I give up from insta-dying to people half way across the map, three rooms over, etc. It's like on some servers I am completely desynchronized from the other players and the netcode lag is not just a matter of milliseconds, but 5+ second gap between player actions.

I think its just bad random lag. Many times I am getting hitmarkers full auto 5 meters away, the other player isn't even aiming and then he one shots me. I think the other day I killed Vulgar, and on my screen it looked fluid and nothing special. He wrote in chat I just warped around the corner. My ping was fine, so the networking may not be reliable at the moment. It was kinda odd that I ran around the corner and killed him, and he didnt get off a shot. Since I'm going to reset my stats when I stop grinding, I dont care as much this time around. Hopefully it'll get worked out soon.
 

DeadFred

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Jun 4, 2011
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Tried out playing as Commander for the first time this evening. Was totally clueless at first, then just started clicking stuff to learn by trial and error. I must have did ok though, because my team was behind when I joined and we ended up winning. Beat the opposing commander by 3,000 points but he may have been just a noob like myself.

Wasnt really my cup of tea, I kept watching the ticket counter and kept wishing it was over. LOL
 

Crusty

Lifer
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What I find odd and hard to describe is how half the servers I can dominate on as usual, I typically come in first place. But some servers I just go 0-10 until I give up from insta-dying to people half way across the map, three rooms over, etc. It's like on some servers I am completely desynchronized from the other players and the netcode lag is not just a matter of milliseconds, but 5+ second gap between player actions.

I notice this too.

I wonder how much DICE allows server operators to configure the server application, if at all. I also wonder how much virtual servers are used to oversubscribe the hardware for these things.
 

Cappuccino

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QuantumPion

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Jun 27, 2005
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lol they must have done something with the servers since yesterday because it is REALLY bad tonight.
 

QuantumPion

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Jun 27, 2005
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I think its just bad random lag. Many times I am getting hitmarkers full auto 5 meters away, the other player isn't even aiming and then he one shots me. I think the other day I killed Vulgar, and on my screen it looked fluid and nothing special. He wrote in chat I just warped around the corner. My ping was fine, so the networking may not be reliable at the moment. It was kinda odd that I ran around the corner and killed him, and he didnt get off a shot. Since I'm going to reset my stats when I stop grinding, I dont care as much this time around. Hopefully it'll get worked out soon.

No, it's not lag. My ping is 20. The other players are mostly 20-60. It's the netcode, period. Players are just completely desynchronized from each other. Pretty much every single kill is either a simultaneous kill, or you kill someone completely unsuspecting and unaware of you. Every death is either a simultaneous death or someone just appears out of nowhere and you're dead. Even when I think I get the drop on someone, what typically happens is on my screen it seems like I get the first shot, but then I get max-suppressed by future incoming damage, making all my shots miss, and then I am dead.

They've totally ruined competitive play. If this was by design, it was to allow total newbies to get kills so they feel like they are contributing to make the game appeal to a broader audience. I don't know how much more I can take it though. I'm about to give up on the game until they fix things.
 
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Childs

Lifer
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No, it's not lag. My ping is 20. The other players are mostly 20-60. It's the netcode, period. Players are just completely desynchronized from each other. Pretty much every single kill is either a simultaneous kill, or you kill someone completely unsuspecting and unaware of you. Every death is either a simultaneous death or someone just appears out of nowhere and you're dead.

They've totally ruined competitive play. If this was by design, it was to allow total newbies to get kills so they feel like they are contributing to make the game appeal to a broader audience. I don't know how much more I can take it though. I'm about to give up on the game until they fix things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu09XFqRYmE

Well, if its everyone then at least the field is level... :p
 

suklee

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Oct 9, 1999
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I think a lot of us get crashes right now. Its a game problem and should be worked out in time. I don't crash constantly though. I'd say update drivers but you probably already did that.

Yeah, I installed the 331 drivers for his 560Ti already. It was just constant crashing - unplayable. On the 1 or 2 times that it worked, it played ok on low settings but after a few deaths there is a weird graphical glitch where the primary weapon does not even show up and I see 'ghost' teammates running around with only their gun o_O
 

Cappuccino

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Yeah, I installed the 331 drivers for his 560Ti already. It was just constant crashing - unplayable. On the 1 or 2 times that it worked, it played ok on low settings but after a few deaths there is a weird graphical glitch where the primary weapon does not even show up and I see 'ghost' teammates running around with only their gun o_O
Do you guys crash when your on the deploy screen? If yes I found a solution.
 

suklee

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Do you guys crash when your on the deploy screen? If yes I found a solution.

No, 95% of the time we never even saw the deployment screen at all. As soon as the map finishes loading (that splash screen that explains the objectives of the map), BF4 will freeze up. No deployment screen. Alt Tab back out to Windows and the "Battlefield4.exe has stopped working" box has popped up.

On my rig (sig) I've had random crashes but not nearly as unplayable as his rig
 

suklee

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Oct 9, 1999
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Yeah, I installed the 331 drivers for his 560Ti already. It was just constant crashing - unplayable. On the 1 or 2 times that it worked, it played ok on low settings but after a few deaths there is a weird graphical glitch where the primary weapon does not even show up and I see 'ghost' teammates running around with only their gun o_O

Here's a video of the primary weapon graphical glitch we saw. First time I've experienced it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5WYu0ZK-KE
 

The Sauce

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Yah I have to say I recognize that I probably suck at this game but when you unload a whole clip into a guys face at point blank on Hardcore and then he turns around after arming the MCOM and one-shots you...time to move on for a while. Seems I cant take 2 steps without dying on most maps while I see guys standing there, out in the open, sniping and they seem to last forever. Something just aint right here.

I had a great time with BF2BC but this seems plain impossible.
 

smackababy

Lifer
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Well, that is amazing. Just lost the last 30 minutes of my XP bonus because the server crashed before the game ended... Thanks Obama!

I don't understand why it doesn't save anything until the game ends. That has to be the worst idea I've ever heard of in the 21th century.
 

satsau

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Yah I have to say I recognize that I probably suck at this game but when you unload a whole clip into a guys face at point blank on Hardcore and then he turns around after arming the MCOM and one-shots you...time to move on for a while. Seems I cant take 2 steps without dying on most maps while I see guys standing there, out in the open, sniping and they seem to last forever. Something just aint right here.

I had a great time with BF2BC but this seems plain impossible.


I feel your pain man, I'm so bad at this game.

But I've learned to not give a f about my stats... just play and have fun.
 

Stringjam

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Jun 30, 2011
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But I've learned to not give a f about my stats... just play and have fun.


Exactly. Stats are meaningless. The only worth of MP FPS is the enjoyment you get out of the game....period.

That's one reason I enjoyed playing Crysis Wars "Power Struggle." There were no stats...the only motivation players had was to do whatever they had to do to control objectives and help their team win.

Battlefield would be a better experience if players weren't so obsessed with their spreadsheets.
 

jackstar7

Lifer
Jun 26, 2009
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I also gave Commander a try. Kind of enjoy it. Nice strategic battle against the other commander for a while and wound up getting a fair number of points and ribbons for my work. I'm wondering if skill level is affected by the time playing as commander though... seems like mine went down. Could be mistaken.

Overall, things seem more stable of late. Definitely prefer finishing rounds and getting the unlocks and such.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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Maybe it's been mentioned in this thread before, but has anyone else had an issue with bringing up the console unintentionally when hitting another key? I have 'B' set to change fire mode, and hitting it once does just that, but hitting it a second time brings up the console. I then have to hit the tilde key to get rid of the console. Wtf?
 

TallBill

Lifer
Apr 29, 2001
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Maybe it's been mentioned in this thread before, but has anyone else had an issue with bringing up the console unintentionally when hitting another key? I have 'B' set to change fire mode, and hitting it once does just that, but hitting it a second time brings up the console. I then have to hit the tilde key to get rid of the console. Wtf?

Same issue here. I had set up B to deploy bipod...
 

sigurros81

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Nov 30, 2010
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Maybe it's been mentioned in this thread before, but has anyone else had an issue with bringing up the console unintentionally when hitting another key? I have 'B' set to change fire mode, and hitting it once does just that, but hitting it a second time brings up the console. I then have to hit the tilde key to get rid of the console. Wtf?

It's a known bug I believe. I had to change my grenade key to a different button.

Anyone know how the range finder on your sniper rifle work? do you even need to use it? I just started trying playing a sniper and I find that sniping is a bit tougher than BF3, which I guess is a good thing. That or I have not gotten the hang of the sniping physics compared to BF3.
 

raasco

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I'm not sure if it was posted here, but "Second Assault" expansion will include Firestorm, Metro, Caspian and Gulf of Oman. At least I should enjoy two of them. I would post a link, but I'm on my phone and too lazy at the moment.