The artic has warmed enough to break up methane clathrates

[ZeGermans]

http://www.newscientist.com/ar...l?full=true&print=true

It's been predicted for years, and now it's happening. Deep in the Arctic Ocean, water warmed by climate change is forcing the release of methane from beneath the sea floor. Over 250 plumes of gas have been discovered bubbling up from the sea floor to the west of the Svalbard archipelago, which lies north of Norway. The bubbles are mostly methane, which is a greenhouse gas much more powerful than carbon dioxide. The methane is probably coming from reserves of methane hydrate beneath the sea bed. These hydrates, also known as clathrates, are water ice with methane molecules embedded in them. The methane plumes were discovered by an expedition aboard the research ship James Clark Ross, led by Tim Minshull of the National Oceanography Centre, Southampton, in the UK.

Basically, we've let the earth get warm enough to let methane trapped in the arctic for god knows how long get released, which could theoretically cause a positive feedback loop and fuck us. Well forget cap n trade then if it's already over!



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[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
http://www.newscientist.com/ar...l?full=true&print=true

It's been predicted for years, and now it's happening. Deep in the Arctic Ocean, water warmed by climate change is forcing the release of methane from beneath the sea floor. Over 250 plumes of gas have been discovered bubbling up from the sea floor to the west of the Svalbard archipelago, which lies north of Norway. The bubbles are mostly methane, which is a greenhouse gas much more powerful than carbon dioxide. The methane is probably coming from reserves of methane hydrate beneath the sea bed. These hydrates, also known as clathrates, are water ice with methane molecules embedded in them. The methane plumes were discovered by an expedition aboard the research ship James Clark Ross, led by Tim Minshull of the National Oceanography Centre, Southampton, in the UK.

Basically, we've let the earth get warm enough to let methane trapped in the arctic for god knows how long get released, which could theoretically cause a positive feedback loop and fuck us. Well forget cap n trade then if it's already over!

"we" did? How arrogant to think man controls things such as this.

 

[blackangst1]

You lost me at "we've let".

Read up on earth temp cycles.

 

[ZeGermans]

cool flat earthers are allowed to post here and not be run out?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
cool flat earthers are allowed to post here and not be run out?

lol, someday when you grow up you'll be able to see how ironic your statement is. You kiddo are the flat earther - who takes it on faith that man is causing climate change and even further could do something about it even if it were true.

 

[Genx87]

I knew we should had turned the Sun down.

WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dainthomas]

Fantastic. I love warm weather!

Another bright side, I've already read about how some areas of the Sahara are turning back into savanna thanks to increased precip.

 

[1LordEmperor1]

Originally posted by: blackangst1
You lost me at "we've let".

Read up on earth temp cycles.

Shouldn't we be doing something about it either way?

Glad I live inland...

 

[OCGuy]

What OP, you couldnt find another derogatory word for blacks to use in this thread?

 

[ZeGermans]

Originally posted by: 1LordEmperor1

Originally posted by: blackangst1
You lost me at "we've let".

Read up on earth temp cycles.

Shouldn't we be doing something about it either way?

Glad I live inland...

Were you live won't matter when there's little farmland left.

 

[fallout man]

God's farts. Praise the Lord!

It's working:

Originally posted by: OCguy
What OP, you couldnt find another derogatory word for blacks to use in this thread?

Here's one who already caught the vapours.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Yep, it's just crazy to think man can affect the climate.

 

[ZeGermans]

OCguy found his reason to pretend to care about minorities today!

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: ZeGermans

Originally posted by: 1LordEmperor1

Originally posted by: blackangst1
You lost me at "we've let".

Read up on earth temp cycles.

Shouldn't we be doing something about it either way?

Glad I live inland...

Were you live won't matter when there's little farmland left.

There would be less people too.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Yep, it's just crazy to think man can affect the climate.

Man caused the drought? Interesting...

 

[JSt0rm]

half the posters here believe in the rapture and don't care if we use up and destroy this place. a problem with one of the major religions for sure.

 

[OCGuy]

So what are you doing about it? Did you stop driving? Did you stop shipping/recieving mail? Do you grow your own food so you dont have to buy goods that were transported by internal combustion engines? Did you stop using plastics?

Or do you use the same amount of Fossil Fuels as the next guy, but bitch about "climate change", so that makes you better?

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: ZeGermans

Originally posted by: 1LordEmperor1

Originally posted by: blackangst1
You lost me at "we've let".

Read up on earth temp cycles.

Shouldn't we be doing something about it either way?

Glad I live inland...

Were you live won't matter when there's little farmland left.

There would be less people too.

You haven't heard that Obama is giving all the illegals and other riff-raff free yachts? It's in that 1000 page healthcare bill.

With all the rising seas, they'll be able to sail right through your hood!

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: fallout man

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: ZeGermans

Originally posted by: 1LordEmperor1

Originally posted by: blackangst1
You lost me at "we've let".

Read up on earth temp cycles.

Shouldn't we be doing something about it either way?

Glad I live inland...

Were you live won't matter when there's little farmland left.

There would be less people too.

You haven't heard that Obama is giving all the illegals and other riff-raff free yachts? It's in that 1000 page healthcare bill.

With all the rising seas, they'll be able to sail right through your hood!

Why give them yachts when we already know they can swim?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Yep, it's just crazy to think man can affect the climate.

Man caused the drought? Interesting...

Interesting indeed.

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: fallout man

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: ZeGermans

Originally posted by: 1LordEmperor1

Originally posted by: blackangst1
You lost me at "we've let".

Read up on earth temp cycles.

Shouldn't we be doing something about it either way?

Glad I live inland...

Were you live won't matter when there's little farmland left.

There would be less people too.

You haven't heard that Obama is giving all the illegals and other riff-raff free yachts? It's in that 1000 page healthcare bill.

With all the rising seas, they'll be able to sail right through your hood!

Why give them yachts when we already know they can swim?

Boom-tsk!

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
cool flat earthers are allowed to post here and not be run out?

lol, someday when you grow up you'll be able to see how ironic your statement is. You kiddo are the flat earther - who takes it on faith that man is causing climate change and even further could do something about it even if it were true.

And what, pray, is your alternative? Do nothing and just say "oh, I'm too small to matter anyway"???

Somehow I doubt that you practice what you preach, 'cause I don't quite sense you're one of those who'd ever consider sacrificing himself for the sake of others.

There are thousands of tonnes of oil-based products being poured back into the environment by man, every day. Your plastic cup, your old couch... and what you do as an individual, is nothing compared to the waste produced by larger companies, and that's even before we look at the pollution caused by millions of cars on the roads every day...

You really think, in your obtuse little mind, that all that crap doesn't make a difference? I'd call you an ostrich, but that would be an insult to bird intelligence.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: OCguy
So what are you doing about it? Did you stop driving? Did you stop shipping/recieving mail? Do you grow your own food so you dont have to buy goods that were transported by internal combustion engines? Did you stop using plastics?

Or do you use the same amount of Fossil Fuels as the next guy, but bitch about "climate change", so that makes you better?

I guess you are asking me. Well i recycle all paper/plastic/glass I lived on the east coast for most of my adult life and didn't own a car (although I do now). I walked places sometimes took cabs, buses and the subway. I try to eat local organic foods but I'm not above eating foods that have been flown in. I think plastics are amazing but I do have a stainless steel water bottle. I also don't plan on having children - a relief to some of you I'm sure as I see the population of humans on the planet as the biggest issue that nobody wants to talk about.

i am not infallible though. I do enjoy dry aged steaks and kobe beef. i enjoy hog nose snapper speared that day and flown within 8 hours to my destination. My car gets 21mgp mixed driving and i leave my pc on 24/7. I used 3 lcd monitors at work along with class A electronics and generally things that suck a lot of juice.

 

[dawp]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Gonad the Barbarian
Yep, it's just crazy to think man can affect the climate.

Man caused the drought? Interesting...

maybe not the drought, but he did cause the dust bowl with pour farming practices which did affect the world as a whole.

 

[glenn1]

Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
cool flat earthers are allowed to post here and not be run out?

lol, someday when you grow up you'll be able to see how ironic your statement is. You kiddo are the flat earther - who takes it on faith that man is causing climate change and even further could do something about it even if it were true.

And what, pray, is your alternative? Do nothing and just say "oh, I'm too small to matter anyway"???

Somehow I doubt that you practice what you preach, 'cause I don't quite sense you're one of those who'd ever consider sacrificing himself for the sake of others.

There are thousands of tonnes of oil-based products being poured back into the environment by man, every day. Your plastic cup, your old couch... and what you do as an individual, is nothing compared to the waste produced by larger companies, and that's even before we look at the pollution caused by millions of cars on the roads every day...

You really think, in your obtuse little mind, that all that crap doesn't make a difference? I'd call you an ostrich, but that would be an insult to bird intelligence.

You're right - environmentalists should do all they can to hold up projects which may have an environmental impact here in the U.S. That'll make it far easier to make the business case to outsource manufacturing jobs to places where the people appreciate the jobs.

"Why does the (formerly) working class complain?"
Because they have no jobs, sir.
"Well, let them eat carbon credits!"