The anti-commemorative thread for September 11th, 2001

[phillyTIM]

I'm so very glad you can display your true self for others to see. You can now stop judging me and my opinions because we're on the SAME level, babe.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
I'm so very glad you can display your true self for others to see. You can now stop judging me and my opinions because we're on the SAME level, babe.

I really don't believe I'm a Lunatic...Opps I did it again..LOL I really don't believe that Bush is doing a good job now but I definately will not equate him with Hitler or Stalin.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
I'm soooo friggin' glad we have these threads to detail just who can call a spade a spade for what it (or he) is, and those who follow along with blind Nationalism, who are lemmings and would follow their leader off a bridge if that's where he went. Get a life, my God.

Exactly - it also shows those who will purposely pick the "other" path just becase their "enemy" is on the path. Get a clue phillyTIM - you hate Bush - it's what drives you, along with "other" agendas. You aren't "better" or more "knowledgable" than anyone else - but ..heh..your spew is entertaining at times - keep it up - it just helps "my" side.

CkG

 

[KK]

Maybe if that fvckin clinton idiot would have taken care of those terrorists in the 8 long years he had, we wouldn't be having this argument. Let's see, what happened on clintons watch, the bombing at the world trade center, the khobar tower bombing, cole bombing. What did ole clinton do about all of that? He bent over and took it like a man. He blew up a drug factory in africa, wow that must have hurt bin laden. Geez, I guess some of y'all like getting shlt blown up as long as it doesn't effect you. And hell, some of you liberals even hate the military now, what a surprise. Ungrateful pricks.

KK

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: KK
Maybe if that fvckin clinton idiot would have taken care of those terrorists in the 8 long years he had, we wouldn't be having this argument. Let's see, what happened on clintons watch, the bombing at the world trade center, the khobar tower bombing, cole bombing. What did ole clinton do about all of that? He bent over and took it like a man. He blew up a drug factory in africa, wow that must have hurt bin laden. Geez, I guess some of y'all like getting shlt blown up as long as it doesn't effect you. And hell, some of you liberals even hate the military now, what a surprise. Ungrateful pricks.

KK

Ah the Ying of Philly's Yang!

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: KK
Maybe if that fvckin clinton idiot would have taken care of those terrorists in the 8 long years he had, we wouldn't be having this argument. Let's see, what happened on clintons watch, the bombing at the world trade center, the khobar tower bombing, cole bombing. What did ole clinton do about all of that? He bent over and took it like a man. He blew up a drug factory in africa, wow that must have hurt bin laden. Geez, I guess some of y'all like getting shlt blown up as long as it doesn't effect you. And hell, some of you liberals even hate the military now, what a surprise. Ungrateful pricks.

KK

Ah the Ying of Philly's Yang!

Lol, ain't it the truth.

KK

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
I'd describe myself as a fairly liberal Democrat, as far as 9/11 is concerned I'm just an American.

What a commemoration of 9/11 is to me is honoring people who get up in the morning and go to work trying to make the world a better place. That includes everyone from janitors to firemen, secretaries to Presidents.

I don't want Bush to be President. I believe he does what he does because he loves this country and it's people. I don't agree with what he does, but I don't question his motives.

I'd describe myself as a conservative Republican, as far as 9/11 is concerned I too am just an American.

I don't know how I haven't seen your posts in the past, Parrot, but I wish their were more poeple like you here. I love rational discourse.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
I'd describe myself as a fairly liberal Democrat, as far as 9/11 is concerned I'm just an American.

What a commemoration of 9/11 is to me is honoring people who get up in the morning and go to work trying to make the world a better place. That includes everyone from janitors to firemen, secretaries to Presidents.

I don't want Bush to be President. I believe he does what he does because he loves this country and it's people. I don't agree with what he does, but I don't question his motives.

I'd describe myself as a conservative Republican, as far as 9/11 is concerned I too am just an American.

I don't know how I haven't seen your posts in the past, Parrot, but I wish their were more poeple like you here. I love rational discourse.

 

[Shad0hawK]

actually clinton has much more in common with hitler than bush does:

both socialists.

both liberals.

both avid supporters of gun control

quotes by bill clinton:

"You know the one thing that's wrong with this country? Everyone gets a chance to have their fair say"

"There is no reason for anyone in this country- anyone except a police officer or military person- to buy, to own, to have, to use a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns."


"The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people."

quotes by hitler:

"It is thus necessary that the individual should come to realize that his own ego is of no importance in comparison with the existence of his nation; that the position of the individual ego is conditioned solely by the interests of the nation as a whole ... that above all the unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual. .... This state of mind, which subordinates the interests of the ego to the conservation of the community, is really the first premise for every truly human culture .... we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow man."

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future." --Adolf Hitler, 1935

 

[PatboyX]

yeah...clinton is just like hitler...
well, provided you ignore hitlers attempt to exterminate a race of people and take over the world.

yes, you too can be just like hitler (or your favorite cliched comparison) all you have to do is ignore reality and draw vague statements of correlation!!

im glad we could all stay on topic for once.

 

[Bryan]

Originally posted by: her209
Do you really feel safer than you were 2 years ago?

I think most people felt a lot safer exactly two years and one day ago than they have felt on any day since, or ever will until a few generations pass.

 

[kaizersose]

all these comparisons to hitler and stalin are rediculous. if you are smart enough to know how to type, you should know better than to make any comparison like that.

hitler killed over 11 million people total and attempted to exterminate a race
stalin created a famine and it is estimated that he killed close to 30 million

comparing bush or clinton to either of these men is beyond comprehension. you people are over the edge!

 

[PatboyX]

comparing bush or clinton to either of these men is beyond comprehension. you people are over the edge!

YES!
thank you.
sanity prevails!

and if kaizer F-ing sose can see that this is wrong, cant we all?

 

[Mill]

GODDAMMIT! I am invoking Godwin's law now because the comparisons to Hitler are getting old.

 

[Gaard]

Hitler invoked Godwin's law, also. Sheesh, you're just like him.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Millennium
GODDAMMIT! I am invoking Godwin's law now because the comparisons to Hitler are getting old.

Never heard of it. Sounds like though, from context, it's something a skinhead facist made up to divert or absove himself from criticism. Everyone knows Murphys law so I guess he's hoping a parallel "common sense" can be drawn by invoking his silly "law". Sounds like someone who does'nt like critical examination nor willing to look at how history repeats itself and is a fatalist.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Millennium
GODDAMMIT! I am invoking Godwin's law now because the comparisons to Hitler are getting old.

Never heard of it. Sounds like though, from context, it's something a skinhead facist made up to divert or absove himself from criticism. Everyone knows Murphys law so I guess he's hoping a parallel "common sense" can be drawn by invoking his silly "law". Sounds like someone who does'nt like critical examination nor willing to look at how history repeats itself and is a fatalist.

Actually:

Godwin's Law
Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: Millennium
GODDAMMIT! I am invoking Godwin's law now because the comparisons to Hitler are getting old.

Never heard of it. Sounds like though, from context, it's something a skinhead facist made up to divert or absove himself from criticism. Everyone knows Murphys law so I guess he's hoping a parallel "common sense" can be drawn by invoking his silly "law". Sounds like someone who does'nt like critical examination nor willing to look at how history repeats itself and is a fatalist.

Actually:

Godwin's Law
Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.

Sounds more like something a five year old would say but in this form. "nah nah nah nah" while covering his ears. What ever floats his boat. I think parallels in history happen every day. That some mimic Adolf Hitler should'nt come as a surprise or even end a conversation or else we leave that possibility out of the disscussion and it's even more likly to repeat itself. This is why the anti-defamation leage and others groups exist. So history is not allowed to repeat itself, and the method they use is exactly Godwins "law".

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

*lock*

 

[PatboyX]

yes, why must hitler come up in every other topic?

 

[Miramonti]

remembering 911

(uhmmm, sort of )

 

[phillyTIM]

Thank God this day is finally over.

Unfortuantely, next year's 9/11 will prove to be twice as worse as today: Bush will politically use this tragic event of the dead to capitalize on his '04 reelection bid. I don't think there is a damn thing more shameless than that.

Brace yourselves folks, if you thought 9/11/03 was bumpy, wait till 9/11/04

Let the karma he gets from that be the true signal of the end of the Bush Regime.

Good riddance.

 

[alchemize]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Thank God this day is finally over.

Unfortuantely, next year's 9/11 will prove to be twice as worse as today: Bush will politically use this tragic event of the dead to capitalize on his '04 reelection bid. I don't think there is a damn thing more shameless than that.

Brace yourselves folks, if you thought 9/11/03 was bumpy, wait till 9/11/04

Let the karma he gets from that be the true signal of the end of the Bush Regime.

Good riddance.

Hi! I'm PhillyTim!

It's my opinion that Bush is using 9/11 politically.

Therefore, I'm disgusted by this day. I couldn't care 2 shits about the 3,000 people that died. Because what's really important is the politics, not the people that died. I could care less about the fact that they were innocents. What's important are the politics. That's what is really important. Thank god this day is almost over. Of course, I'm really looking forward to complaining about the politics next year.

What? 3,000 people died? If that will someday bring down the Bush Regime, so be it.

 

[EXman]

Ha Ha alchemize you are right philly is the one who doesn't give 2 sh!ts about the 3,000 in NYC and 184 in DC Him bashing Bush furthers his own personal agenda.

Good riddance to this insensitive ultra partisan politico

Just don't post next year

 

[nan0bug]

Originally posted by: EXman

what?s silly about the "Bush Regime"? have you called Bush "silly" when he termed the "Iraqi Regime"?

If you are Comparing Bush to Saddam there bud you need to move to the Middle East. You are putting Bush in the same context as historically totalitarian governments by using "regime" we have anything but a totalitarian government here. If the President was lumped in with your thinking He'd be in company with Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam ect. Name me one fair election that led to the government to then be immediately called a regime?

When is the last time Bush took Hundreds of thousands to death camps had them bumped off or gassed?

You say regime I say President and his administration. That's his title plain and simple not Dictator, not Tsar, not even Caesar.

Emphasis mine. Bush was appointed, not elected.

Just for the record, I'm left leaning, but I think people like phillyTIM are more extreme left, and I really despise being associated with people like him. Being a leftist to me is more about trying to understand others, instead of blasting them at any given opportunity (even if that other happens to be George W. Bush and co.). I agree with the statement about Bush just doing what he thinks is best for the country. I don't agree with the methods, but that's why I'm not voting for him next term. Such is the beauty of our fine little republic.

I also find it kind of ironic how anyone can sit there and point fingers at Bush for using 9/11 to further his political agenda, while posting threads like this on 9/11.. this thread is inflammatory, and it's meant to further your agenda..