Stojakapimp - << Did you really not expect Bush to instill fear into people? >>
Um, maybe I'm just being naive, but I don't really consider that a good thing for the president to do.
I don't really consider the 9/11 commemorations to be a Bush thing. It's more of a media thing. And money may not be a driving force to air or publish these commemorations, but you can bet that if a profit wasn't to be made they wouldn't be aired/published.
That being said, I'll probably watch them.
Um, maybe I'm just being naive, but I don't really consider that a good thing for the president to do.
I don't really consider the 9/11 commemorations to be a Bush thing. It's more of a media thing. And money may not be a driving force to air or publish these commemorations, but you can bet that if a profit wasn't to be made they wouldn't be aired/published.
That being said, I'll probably watch them.
To be honest, I've never felt personally threatened. OTOH, I think I recall Galt saying he worked near the White House. If I lived or worked near a prime target such as that I may feel differently. As it is, I live in your typical run-of-the-mill midwest town (Grand Rapids) so I don't think my personal safety would ever come into question.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Read your second post here - yet you expect people to follow "the rules" you said in your first post.
Sad...but typical.
CkG
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Read your second post here - yet you expect people to follow "the rules" you said in your first post.
Sad...but typical.
CkG
As our right honorable friend would say, "True dat."
Personally I think all you liberals should goto hell for delaying the war.
We know how much the Iraq people like having their 13 year old daughters taken out of school to meet the Hussians 
sandorski
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Though I'd agree that 9/11 has been used in a scandulous way by many, I also think that your country can not just forget about it. It was a tragedy that should not be forgotten! Unfortunetly it seems to have been misunderstood, the "solutions" chosen exacerbate the problem not solve it.
Oops, I didn't mean to put Bush into that statement. I meant to say something along the lines of "Did you really not expect people to be afraid?" My point was that when your nation is attacked, people are going to get scared. Other's are saying that Bush tried to make people afraid, but when you see that your nation is vulnerable to attack, you get scared. It just seems ridiculous that people are now trying to blame that on Bush too
For me its going to be a day of personal reflection and nothing else. It's a sad day and will always be one, but I'm staying away from the media circus.
How many people did the US kill in retalliation for these attacks? How many have died in Afghanistan and Iraq? Was it worth it? Is the score even yet? Two towers for two countries?
Bush did a fine job pissing on the graves of all who died that day. Their memory has been nothing more than an excuse for murder. Bush and his gang of thugs have been doing whatever the hell they want citing those who died that day as a pretext for their selfish schemes. He played on the ignorant public's fear of another attack to gain support for an invasion of Iraq, which was a complete waste of money, resources and lives, and the continued chipping away at freedom in the US and the increase of support for flawed neo-con values.
Bush has plenty of reasons to celebrate that day, it was the best thing to happen for him.
Bush did a fine job pissing on the graves of all who died that day. Their memory has been nothing more than an excuse for murder. Bush and his gang of thugs have been doing whatever the hell they want citing those who died that day as a pretext for their selfish schemes. He played on the ignorant public's fear of another attack to gain support for an invasion of Iraq, which was a complete waste of money, resources and lives, and the continued chipping away at freedom in the US and the increase of support for flawed neo-con values.
Bush has plenty of reasons to celebrate that day, it was the best thing to happen for him.
LunarRay
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I think September 11th 2001, is a rather note worthy day. We learned just how close the terrorist can be to us as we go about our routine. Then one day all hell breaks loose and we cry foul. Foul has existed possibly forever. We shrug when bombs blow up in Israel or Ireland or where ever but, let them hit us and we go for blood. It is good to remember this day 9/11 if for no other reason than to know we in all our might and glory are just people whom other people don't care too much for. Knowing this may cause us to recognize that any life anywhere is important when it is snuffed out by any act of violence.
So yes, remember! The dead... well... there were some 50 or so nation's people in WTC and The Pentagon. I think I feel more for the lonely widow or young child standing or sitting as another soldier's casket carrying their husband and father, is carried by. Him, I salute with all my heart and being!
So yes, remember! The dead... well... there were some 50 or so nation's people in WTC and The Pentagon. I think I feel more for the lonely widow or young child standing or sitting as another soldier's casket carrying their husband and father, is carried by. Him, I salute with all my heart and being!
Vic
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9/11 has already been exploited by far too many people with far too many agendas for me to really care anymore. I feel for our nation, I feel for the dead, my prayers and hopes go with the family and friends of the dead... but don't expect me to jump whenever some politician or pundit brings up and exploits 9/11 with his own personal axe to grind, because I won't.
I'd describe myself as a fairly liberal Democrat, as far as 9/11 is concerned I'm just an American.
What a commemoration of 9/11 is to me is honoring people who get up in the morning and go to work trying to make the world a better place. That includes everyone from janitors to firemen, secretaries to Presidents.
I don't want Bush to be President. I believe he does what he does because he loves this country and it's people. I don't agree with what he does, but I don't question his motives.
What a commemoration of 9/11 is to me is honoring people who get up in the morning and go to work trying to make the world a better place. That includes everyone from janitors to firemen, secretaries to Presidents.
I don't want Bush to be President. I believe he does what he does because he loves this country and it's people. I don't agree with what he does, but I don't question his motives.
/applaud
A sane voice amongst the masses. We need more libs like you on this board
Nice to see one that doesn't foam at the mouth when speaking...Originally posted by: alchemize
/applaud
A sane voice amongst the masses. We need more libs like you on this board
I've been keeping an eye on this guy, too; would love to have autonomous, rational adults like him on the 'dark side'.
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I just realized today, for the first time, that it has been branded as "Patriot Day". My God I'm gonna be sick.
Another ploy for Bush to force the country together and not question all the horrid things he is doing to our country.
I'll tell you what "Patriot Day" really means to Bush: a time to celebrate the events and deaths of 9/11 that saved his Political hide. He calls it "patriot" to be sure that everyone is silenced and has a false sense of euphoria about being an american. But those americans have a President who uses their deaths as his political gains.
It's going to be more obvious than ever next year, 9/11/04, when he uses that date to capitalize on his political career and make a ploy to force everyone into his camp for the presidential election.
Well I have news for you, George Weasel Bush, it isn't going to work. We all see this for what it is, your opportunity to further S##T on America and disgrace the good name our forefathers built for the past 227 years. We will be more than happy to celebrate the date and event of your death each year when that milestone has been reached.
i wouldnt mind so much if it werent just an excuse to manipulate and exploit the emotions of tv viewers and voters. on one hand, i dont want to be a part of a commemoration (which i think is a terrible word for it anyway) especially not if it has some mastabtory name like patriot day. but...lets look at america's track record as far as attention spans go; i believe that their are a number of people who may need a sort of reminder every now and again. those attacks were designed to send us a message and i think a lot of the americans got that message loud and clear. however, it seems almost like those who want to turn this into a profitable holiday for themselves comletely missed the message being sent to us.
mastertech01
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I dont feel this day is so much for those 3000 who lost thier lives. They are dead and gone and nothing will bring them back. This is a day for the mothers, fathers, spouses, children, coworkers, friends and other loved ones who lost someone in that great tragedy. It is a tragedy in itself when you lose someone to an act of violence, this I know from personal experience. It is far worse when everyone forgets your loved one even existed, and thier memory is reduced to only a few most close to them. This event is for those who survive and to give a little respect for those whom they lost.
If you dont want to participate that is your business, but you really shouldn't be a kill joy for those who wish to do so. There is a time and a place to disagree just to disagree for your personal reasons, but respecting others wishes to make this day one of humble respect for those survivors by keeping your negative hate motivated opinions to yourself for just one day will be far more appreciated. IMHO
If you dont want to participate that is your business, but you really shouldn't be a kill joy for those who wish to do so. There is a time and a place to disagree just to disagree for your personal reasons, but respecting others wishes to make this day one of humble respect for those survivors by keeping your negative hate motivated opinions to yourself for just one day will be far more appreciated. IMHO
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