The anti-commemorative thread for September 11th, 2001

[EXman]

I have the right to not feel taken in by the two-year anniversary of 9/11 because I think the whole event has been marred by the Bush Regime using their deaths as political pawns for their own legitimacy and reelection-attempt gains.

If you have been reading the papers this week Our (he's yours too wether you like it or not) President has wanted to keep the 2nd anv. of 9/11 low key in comparison to last year. How is that using it as a pawn? And stop calling this the Bush "Regime" you sound silly

So far most the coverage been just that low key just remembering those who were lost and those left behind and not rah rah let's go kick some ass Bush garbage.

 

[phillyTIM]

whats silly about the "Bush Regime"? have you called Bush "silly" when he termed the "Iraqi Regime"?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: EXman

I have the right to not feel taken in by the two-year anniversary of 9/11 because I think the whole event has been marred by the Bush Regime using their deaths as political pawns for their own legitimacy and reelection-attempt gains.

If you have been reading the papers this week Our (he's yours too wether you like it or not) President has wanted to keep the 2nd anv. of 9/11 low key in comparison to last year. How is that using it as a pawn? And stop calling this the Bush "Regime" you sound silly

So far most the coverage been just that low key just remembering those who were lost and those left behind and not rah rah let's go kick some ass Bush garbage.

Perhaps another way of putting it is how it has been used to promote the Bush's agenda. I can of course cut and paste the speech from a few days back, and how Bush is linking Iraq to terrorism now. I think you do not need this though. You will also see that Bush is pushing for the right to bypass the judiciary among other things in the Patriot Act sequel. All being promoted this week. He is taking advantage of the event to justify and promote his agenda. He could do it another time, but it is to his advantage to use the emotions of people right now.

 

[beyoku]

When i dont agree with peoples actions, i question their motives. its stupid to just sit back and watch. things that you dont agree to should be explained in a way to make you understand actions.

 

[EXman]

what?s silly about the "Bush Regime"? have you called Bush "silly" when he termed the "Iraqi Regime"?

If you are Comparing Bush to Saddam there bud you need to move to the Middle East. You are putting Bush in the same context as historically totalitarian governments by using "regime" we have anything but a totalitarian government here. If the President was lumped in with your thinking He'd be in company with Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam ect. Name me one fair election that led to the government to then be immediately called a regime?

When is the last time Bush took Hundreds of thousands to death camps had them bumped off or gassed?

You say regime I say President and his administration. That's his title plain and simple not Dictator, not Tsar, not even Caesar.

 

[phillyTIM]

Well you have your opinion, and I have mine, and many others have theirs, as this link shows.

Bush deserves the exact same bad-connotation name "Regime" as all those you mentioned above. And that's why I use it, because he is everything you mentioned above.

Bush automatically gets put with the ranks of Hitler, Stalin, etc. for using the deaths of 9/11 to futher his neoconservatistic agenda, which at minimum includes the unjustified invasion & killing of the Iraqi country and it's people, Patriot acts, the purchasing of Election '00, etc. and so on. Bush is a terrorist, plain and simple. His Regime is a walking "Weapon of Mass Destruction", as they have proven, as the World now knows.

"The Bush Regime" sounds as silly and bad as they really are, and that will be the term I use until the day I die, if I can't find something worse to brand his goonies of killers and political games.

 

[hagbard]

What Americans know

 

[EXman]

Well you have your opinion, and I have mine, and many others have theirs, as this link shows.

Bush deserves the exact same bad-connotation name "Regime" as all those you mentioned above. And that's why I use it, because he is everything you mentioned above.

Bush automatically gets put with the ranks of Hitler, Stalin, etc. for using the deaths of 9/11 to futher his neoconservatistic agenda, which at minimum includes the unjustified invasion & killing of the Iraqi country and it's people, Patriot acts, the purchasing of Election '00, etc. and so on. Bush is a terrorist, plain and simple. His Regime is a walking "Weapon of Mass Destruction", as they have proven, as the World now knows.

"The Bush Regime" sounds as silly and bad as they really are, and that will be the term I use until the day I die, if I can't find something worse to brand his goonies of killers and political games.

This reads like you swiped it off a Liberal newsletter.


If you really think other politicians wouldn't do the same regardless of their political affiliation you are Naive.

I do agree we both have a right to our opinion. But I think yours is Way over the top when you say "Bush automatically gets put with the ranks of Hitler, Stalin, etc." Hmmm No that is Fvcked up. and then you say "Bush is a terrorist"

no comment other than that. Here is my Favorite "His Regime is a walking "Weapon of Mass Destruction", as they have proven, as the World now knows. " AMEN except you need to stick "to all terrorist" in there.


If Bush sat on his hands he wouldn't be doing his job. It's not exploitation it's taking action when he was forced into it. Did he ask this to happen? No. Did he want it? Again No. Will he do his best to try to keep America safe from terrorists? Yes. He's trying to make life safer for you and me. If that means breaking some eggs and stepping on some hands so be it. This 9/11 was brought to ALL OF US. No one wanted it to happen.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Actually, The two towers are not there anymore. The Two Countries are. And id be willing to bet that they are better off with us there.........

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well you have your opinion, and I have mine, and many others have theirs, as this link shows.

Bush deserves the exact same bad-connotation name "Regime" as all those you mentioned above. And that's why I use it, because he is everything you mentioned above.

Bush automatically gets put with the ranks of Hitler, Stalin, etc. for using the deaths of 9/11 to futher his neoconservatistic agenda, which at minimum includes the unjustified invasion & killing of the Iraqi country and it's people, Patriot acts, the purchasing of Election '00, etc. and so on. Bush is a terrorist, plain and simple. His Regime is a walking "Weapon of Mass Destruction", as they have proven, as the World now knows.

"The Bush Regime" sounds as silly and bad as they really are, and that will be the term I use until the day I die, if I can't find something worse to brand his goonies of killers and political games.

lmao. if bush were really like hitler or stalin you would be in a gas chamber, shot, or going on the gulag by now. it sounds to me you have been reading to many socialist propaganda phamplets.

share your wisdom with us, if you were president what would you do?

 

[BeauJangles]

I don't protest the memorials, the only thing I've done related to 9/11 is read the original 9/11 thread here on AT. I've done it two years in a row now, and it's quiet a chilling experience. The worst part is knowing what is about to come and waiting for someone to post it. Very very chilling.

As for Bush, I don't really believe he 'allowed' 9/11 to happen or anything like that. I think, however, that it has helped him push what is, in essence, a neo-imperialist foriegn policy. That is perhaps the worst thing for this country right now. But I digress. Back on topic, I see no reason to NOT honor those who fell in 9/11 and if someone is doing something against those people, then i have a big problem with that.

 

[csf]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
Well you have your opinion, and I have mine, and many others have theirs, as this link shows.

Bush deserves the exact same bad-connotation name "Regime" as all those you mentioned above. And that's why I use it, because he is everything you mentioned above.

Bush automatically gets put with the ranks of Hitler, Stalin, etc. for using the deaths of 9/11 to futher his neoconservatistic agenda, which at minimum includes the unjustified invasion & killing of the Iraqi country and it's people, Patriot acts, the purchasing of Election '00, etc. and so on. Bush is a terrorist, plain and simple. His Regime is a walking "Weapon of Mass Destruction", as they have proven, as the World now knows.

"The Bush Regime" sounds as silly and bad as they really are, and that will be the term I use until the day I die, if I can't find something worse to brand his goonies of killers and political games.

lmao. if bush were really like hitler or stalin you would be in a gas chamber, shot, or going on the gulag by now. it sounds to me you have been reading to many socialist propaganda phamplets.

share your wisdom with us, if you were president what would you do?

Clearly the first thing he'd do is resign so he could spend his time casting unsupported, hate-filled, rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth rhetoric at whomever replaced him. As his posting history shows, proposing alternative solutions and backing up his assertions with factual information is clearly too difficult for him, which is why he posts nothing but inflamatory gibberish that serves more to alienate people from his viewpoints rather than sympathsize with them.

 

[phillyTIM]

Originally posted by: csf
... and backing up his assertions with factual information is clearly too difficult for him....

That is dead wrong. Now I KNOW you are just spewing S##T now.

Look above where I've given a link to backup what I say about people's use of the "Bush Regime", and this post here (scroll down to find my post) what I would do for a solution if I were President.

I've given but 2 examples that I back up myself. So go jump in your lover regime's oil wells in iraq.

 

[EXman]

philly you said Bush is Like Hitler or Stalin... who's spewing? that is just plain warped that is why the bleeding hart liberals here aren't coming to help you out. you crossed the line of common sense.

 

[phillyTIM]

I'm soooo friggin' glad we have these threads to detail just who can call a spade a spade for what it (or he) is, and those who follow along with blind Nationalism, who are lemmings and would follow their leader off a bridge if that's where he went. Get a life, my God.

 

[phillyTIM]

Bush is exactly like them, Ex... the only difference is that they didn't have such weapons of mass destruction to silence people such as we have now. Bush is exactly the same, he just doesn't have to put his hands around each individual's throat anymore like they used to.

 

[EXman]

you are beyond help philly you can have your opinion cause I don't see anyone that wants to share it with you

 

[Jmman]

The more posts he makes, the more true this statement becomes..........

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Lucky
asshat

 

[Red Dawn]

Get a life, my God.

You need to practice what you preach!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Jmman
The more posts he makes, the more true this statement becomes..........

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: Lucky
asshat

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: EXman
philly you said Bush is Like Hitler or Stalin... who's spewing? that is just plain warped that is why the bleeding hart liberals here aren't coming to help you out. you crossed the line of common sense.

Bush like Hitler is pretty accurate.

Sorry, I take that back, Hitler was smarter and more articulate.

 

[Red Dawn]

n/m

 

[phillyTIM]

cuz the personal attacks, Red Dawn; if you can't have respect for others' opinions, then at least have respect for others.

 

[Bulk Beef]

I'm soooo friggin' glad we have these threads to detail just who can call a spade a spade for what it (or he) is

Me too.

asshat

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: phillyTIM
cuz the personal attacks, Red Dawn; if you can't have respect for others' opinions, then at least have respect for others.

I'm sorry I let myself get pulled into personal attacks because it means that I was no better than you. That causes me great shame!