The AMD Mantle Thread

[blastingcap]

What on earth could they be announcing on Kimmel? Is he some sort of tech news comedian now? Seems really strange.

Perhaps something like http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/03/07/conan-obrien-reviews-tomb-raider/

 

[Imouto]

Perhaps something like http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/03/07/conan-obrien-reviews-tomb-raider/

I like the Clueless Gamer series and this is by far the best episode.

Knowing AMD I bet it's something really embarrassing like The Fixer.

 

[Obsoleet]

Knowing AMD I bet it's something really embarrassing like The Fixer.

You can remove the Mr. Serious Butt Plugs(TM). C'mon people, unclench and have some fun.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Anyone who's interested they gave away a bunch of stuff on Kimmel. GPU's, consoles, gift cards, etc...

I figured it was going to be something more than just a PR stunt.

 

[RaulF]

Anyone who's interested they gave away a bunch of stuff on Kimmel. GPU's, consoles, gift cards, etc...

I figured it was going to be something more than just a PR stunt.

To the audience?

That kind of sucks if it was. I mean I bet a big majority of the people there probably don't even play video games. What a waste.

 

[pong lenis]

Knowing AMD I bet it's something really embarrassing like The Fixer.

Are you going to get that surgery?

 

[Shmee]

On topic please.

 

[Ibra]

Context is:
you link to a person first post at b3d. How trust worthy is that for a starter. Excactly when nv pr machine is in full gear. 😉
Next time better tell that and link to the entire thread.

But you are welcome to explain to me how you interprete the results and the premises and asumptions for them. Will you care to do that?

Secondly all the graphs is just worthless because nv cards simply can not do it in actual games. And never had. And never will. Because of dx that happens to be what is used, and mlst of all because of real world programming limitations. Fact.

Cgn will be 30 times as fast for drawcalls. But only with mantle. What this thread is about.

Wow, you are slow person don't ya? Everything is showed about Matle come from AMD PR department.

Infraction issued for personal attack. One month ban added for repeated forum violations.
-- stahlhart

 

[blastingcap]

Context is:
you link to a person first post at b3d. How trust worthy is that for a starter. Excactly when nv pr machine is in full gear. 😉
Next time better tell that and link to the entire thread.

But you are welcome to explain to me how you interprete the results and the premises and asumptions for them. Will you care to do that?

Secondly all the graphs is just worthless because nv cards simply can not do it in actual games. And never had. And never will. Because of dx that happens to be what is used, and mlst of all because of real world programming limitations. Fact.

Cgn will be 30 times as fast for drawcalls. But only with mantle. What this thread is about.

Please stop calling it "cgn" it's "gcn"

 

[krumme]

Please stop calling it "cgn" it's "gcn"

Not possible to change now. Sorry. I have written it 178 times.

 

[monstercameron]

Not possible to change now. Sorry. I have written it 178 times.

thats the spirit! we all should be inspired by your determination lol 😉

 

[Gloomy]

Not possible to change now. Sorry. I have written it 178 times.

a true man, unable to be swayed from the path he has chosen to follow

 

[krumme]

You dont understand. From now on, you all write "cgn".

 

[blastingcap]

http://gamingbolt.com/nitrous-engin...-gen-engines-utilize-eight-core-architectures

 

[Gloomy]

http://gamingbolt.com/nitrous-engin...-gen-engines-utilize-eight-core-architectures

mary mother of mercy that site has a lot of ads

Offtopic, but the answer to those console questions lead me to believe Microsoft is leaning on developers and forcing an NDA on them as damage control... is console performance usually under NDA like that?

And what kind of game could they be making where they need an RTS engine, on consoles? 😕

 

[DiogoDX]

Oxide Mantle presentation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWyf8Hyjbg

 

[NTMBK]

You dont understand. From now on, you all write "cgn".

:thumbsup:

 

[psoomah]

Oxide Mantle presentation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWyf8Hyjbg

Sweet!

Thanks.

 

[DiogoDX]

All slides for the presentations in APU13 are now live:

http://developer.amd.com/apu/home/sessions/

 

[psoomah]

All slides for the presentations in APU13 are now live:

http://developer.amd.com/apu/home/sessions/

Super sweet. Thanks!

 

[desprado]

So mantle patch of BF4 is not coming in Dec right?

 

[Arkadrel]

Oxide Mantle presentation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWyf8Hyjbg

Intresting part ~37+ minuets into it.

StarSwarm engine with mantle and with directX.

DirectX bottlenecks ~15k batches with best CPU on market, performance plumets by huge amounts after that point.

on mantle, you can do 80k-100k without issue.



"At application level, starswarm is 3 faster in some cases"


Imagine running directX and getting 20 fps in a game, compaired to running mantle and getting 60 fps.

A 3 times speed up is huge, certainly more than just the ~20% some people have been saying it ll likely only amount to.

 

[psoomah]

Oxide Mantle presentation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIWyf8Hyjbg

Much more informative and understandable when the slides are contextual with the presentation.

Three things jumped out for me.

1. That for all the performance improvements already highlighted, Oxide categorically states it has just 'scratched the surface' of what Mantle will enable.

2. That Mantle is enabling game development to be massively easier and more streamlined. It just flat out eliminated massively time consuming programming necessary to achieve a fraction of what can easily be realized with Mantle.

3. The last slide, titled 'Point of No Return' appears to me an implicit statement Oxide has little to no interest in implementing Microsoft's API and massive interest in taking advantage of the possibilities opened by Mantle.

DICE stated in a slide future development and optimizations for Frostbite would be focused on the PS4 and Mantle.

Mantle will be so tremendously straightforward and open ended compared to working with other APIs it's going to be mental drudgery torture for the game teams to drive Microsoft's Yugo API after experiencing the Formula 1 thrill ride of Mantle.

 

[hawtdawg]

So mantle patch of BF4 is not coming in Dec right?

with Dice's BF4 patch history so far, the mantle release will actually cause grass to flicker, and then AMD GPU's to explode and kill their users.

 

[ultimatebob]

What does the rumor mill say about the Mantle patch for Battlefield 4 not being out yet? Did they run into some last minute bugs, or are the performance gains not as good as promised?