The 35w Mobile Athlon CPU

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saechaka

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Originally posted by: DaNorthface
Anyone have the 35 watt - 1.35volt 2200+ mobile Barton?? I haven't really heard anythnig about it.. PLease post any results. thanks


got that darn thing today to go with my shuttle a5???? darn thing booted, went into bios, froze and nothing has been the same. put it in my ecs n????? graphic started getting corrupted then froze. i don't know whats going on. maybe i got a bad chip.
 

imported_jvrobert

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Does anyone have one of these working on any micro-ATX board?

My kingdom for a Micro-ATX board that supports the 35W Athlon64's. Barring that, I'd be happy with a micro-ATX 35W Athlon barton.
 

L00PY

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Originally posted by: jvrobert
Does anyone have one of these working on any micro-ATX board?
Since we've just been talking about the mobile bartons, all the 35W processors listed on the first page will drop into any mATX Socket A board.

There are a handful of mATX boards that might support the 35W A64 depending on chipset. I'm guessing you've gone through this thread, which suggests that based on the chipset, 3 of Newegg's 754 pin ones might work with some reflashing.
 

Avalon

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Results from my 2nd 35w chip:

*Seventh Chip* 35w AQYHA 0415 Old Case
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 8.5 @ 1.4v = 1850mhz 39C max
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 10 @ 1.475v = 2160mhz 42C max
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 10.5 @ 1.55v = 2280mhz 45C max
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 11 @ 1.675v = 2390mhz 49C max
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 11.5 @ 1.825v = 2500mhz 53C max
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 12 @ 1.925v = 2600mhz max

It's a 2400+ 35w AQYHA
Almost the same exact results as my first 35w and my mobile 2600+.
Seems like consistent performance to me.
Again, voltages are bios, and actual are slightly less.
Going to try my third one soon tonight :)
 

Shimmishim

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lol avalon...

you and these mobile chips...

almost as bad as me and my tbred 2100/1700+ last year in jan-march (went through about 15 processors).
 

Avalon

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I can't help it, it's fun :p
Back when I started, I thought any copper HSF would do for cooling, but now I'm starting to realize how inadequate my V7+ is for speeds higher than 2.4ghz, so I may be upgrading my HSF sometime soon. Is there much of a difference between my V7+ and the V12+ Extreme? I know it has an 80mm fan as opposed to my 70mm, but I'm wondering if the sink itself is better. Perhaps I'll just get a thermalright. People seem to like those a lot. You know you're going heavy duty when your sink requires mounting holes. I've got em on my epox, I was thinking I should get a HSF that would make use of them ;)
Just a shame I couldn't try this on your Mach 1 :)
 

ManDooM

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This thread convinced me to get one of these (probably the 45w 2600) over the Barton 3200 I was just oing to order in a few minutes. I'm glad I found you guys in time :p Sounds like I should do fine with my setup.

NF7-S
1GB DDR400 Corsair XMS

I see most people getting the 35w 2400. The 2600 is only $7 more at newegg. Is anyone seeing any benefit to the 2600 over the 2400? And what about the 2500?
 

Avalon

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Not much difference between the 2500+ and 2600+. Theoretically the 2600+ should consistently reach higher speeds. I only had one 2600+, and it ran higher than my 2500+ chips, so I dunno. I can't really make a call there. However, I am seeing that the 35w 2400+ chips are doing as good or better than the 2600+ mobiles, and are cheaper. Get a 35w 2400+. You'll be a happy camper when it's up and running :)


EXCALIBUR PC HAS A NEW STEPPING FOR THE 35W 2400+! CHECK PAGE 1!
Has anyone gotten one of these yet? They are the IQYHA stepping as opposed to the AQYHA. I think I may have to order some more ;D
 
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Mobile 35 Watt AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+, Barton, AQYHA Stepping

Just got this chip from NewEgg last night. Haven't had time to test fully but here are some early results. One pass each on MemTest 3.1, 30 minutes on Prime95, one pass on 3DMark2001.

133 FSB x 12.5 @ 1.35v, 1.66 GHz, 27C idle (so-called default)

200 FSB x 12.0 @ 1.65v, 2.40 GHz, 31C idle

200 FSB x 12.5 @ 1.80v, 2.50 GHz, 36C idle, 44C load

Haven't tried going past 2.5 GHz yet. My goal is to get best speed at 1.8v.

So far this chip appears to run very close to what others have reported for the 2400+ version. Hitting 2.6 GHz may tell the tale as my max vcore without a mod is 2.0v. Will report back.

BTW, the temp readings may be understated from my Shuttle AN35N Ultra which seems to report on the low side.

My rig:

Athlon 35w XP-M 2200+ @ 200 x 12.5 @ 1.80v
Thermaltake SilentBoost w/AS5
Shuttle AN35N Ultra Refurb - $38 from NewEgg ;-)
3 x 256MB Kingston ValueRam PC3200 @ PC3200 2.5-3-3-11 (Samsung chips)
Maxtor 120GB, 7200RPM, 8MB
Sony 4x DVD+/-
Artec Combo DVD ROM / CD-RW
ATI Radeon 9000 Pro
Enermax 350w PSU
3 x 92mm 12v case fans @ 7v
 

imported_jvrobert

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For sure - there's no voltage problems or anything? Has anyone actually tested?

I just need a cool/quiet running micro-ATX machine for a HTPC, and if these work I'm all over it - 2400+ speed is fine. Any recommendations for a particularly good mATX socket A MB?

Thanks!
 

imported_duck

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Chaintech 7NIL-SUMMIT

Originally posted by: jvrobert
For sure - there's no voltage problems or anything? Has anyone actually tested?

I just need a cool/quiet running micro-ATX machine for a HTPC, and if these work I'm all over it - 2400+ speed is fine. Any recommendations for a particularly good mATX socket A MB?

Thanks!
 

Ionizer86

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Ok, I'm testing out my XP-M 2200+ Barton 35W. Just started testing (Board = Shuttle FN45G, it's part of the Shuttle SN45G NF2 XPC). Gonna keep adding data.
Current data:

AXMD2200FJQ4C
T854925D42118
AQYHA 0415UPMW

Max oc at stock voltage: between 1833 and 1917 (stable at 11 * 166, windows doesn't load at 11.5 * 166). Temps: case 46ºC, CPU 49ºC load (Seti@Home) (The Shuttle ICE seems to keep both at a similar temp, at least at 1.35W). Stock cooling for now: Shuttle ICE and Sunon fan, with AS5.

Max undervolt at stock clock: 1.25V :) (1.23 actual). Temps at load: 44ºC case, 46ºC load.

Max OC at 1.5V: Somewhere between 2000 and 2083. 46º/51º
Max OC at 1.6V: Somewhere between 2166 and 2250. 47º/54º
Max OC at 1.7V: Somewhere between 2250 and 2333. 48º/57º
1.8V: stable at 2333, haven't tested farther. 48º/58º.

All temps above on load.

The settings I'm settling with for my SFF: 183 * 11 (2013) at 1.475V. I found that while my desktop 8RDA+ could run at 200 bus well, my SFF was going unstable at 193/194. So I'm going to run my PC2700 ram at PC3000 mode (183). I'm now running a Panaflo L1A with my Shuttle ICE. Temps: 47ºC/54ºC. And yes, my 7200.7 is the loudest component in my PC now :)
 

chinkgai

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whoa! thats one hot case! your system better dead silent with those scorching temps!
 

EddNog

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Are you sure your, "System," temp that's being reported isn't actually your chipset temp? My AN7 reports the chipset temperature and it's around 47C; a case temp of 47 would be impossible to get 49C load because that's only a 2C rise over ambient and no way in hell can the I.C.E. system work that efficiently.

On the SN41G2V2 that I owned for a while, "System," temp was the northbridge temp. In fact, it used that reading to vary the speed of the northbridge fan.

-Ed
 

imported_duck

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I just got one 35w 2400+ installed and the defualt voltage is 1.5v, 100Mhz x 6.

Is the voltage correct? Isn't it supposed to be 1.35v even if the MB doesn't support mobile CPU?
 

DaNorthface

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Originally posted by: duck
I just got one 35w 2400+ installed and the defualt voltage is 1.5v, 100Mhz x 6.

Is the voltage correct? Isn't it supposed to be 1.35v even if the MB doesn't support mobile CPU?

it defaults to 1.5 because it doesn't recognize the cpu
 

Avalon

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Maybe I should put a disclaimer on the front page that says these chips will not boot up as their laptop recognized speeds when you power on for the first time, and will often be shown as an unknown processor. Don't worry about it. Set whatever setting you'd like manually, and you're good to go.
 

EddNog

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Yeah it always defaults to 6.0*100 and reports Unknown Processor Type.

It's also a good idea to manually install the AMD K7 driver for it, in Windows (XP) to ensure full support for MMX, 3DNow etc. etc., although theoretically the software should detect it, sometimes it still relies on the Windows driver.

-Ed
 

Avalon

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Yes, very good point. First time I put a mobile in, Windows Update gave me an option to get driver updates for it. I'd recommend getting it just to be safe. Just finished overclocking my eighth mobile. Here are the results.

*Eighth Chip* 35w AQYHA 0415 Old Case
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 9 @ 1.4v = 1950mhz 40C max
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 10 @ 1.475v = 2160mhz 42C max
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 10.5 @ 1.55v = 2280mhz 44C max
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 11 @ 1.65v = 2390mhz 48C max
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 11.5 @ 1.775v = 2500mhz 53C max
XP-M 2400+ - 216FSB x 12 @ 1.925v = 2600mhz max

Well well, what do you know. Nearly identical results as my other two 35w 2400+ chips. I'm hitting a consistent 2.6ghz on mediocre air cooling. So fast...never get slow...again *rocks back and forth*
:D
 
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Mobile 35 Watt AMD Athlon XP-M 2200+, Barton

AQYHA 0415 UPMW

So far:

133 FSB x 12.5 @ 1.35v, 1.66 GHz

200 FSB x 12.0 @ 1.65v, 2.40 GHz

200 FSB x 12.5 @ 1.80v, 2.50 GHz

NEW:

200 FSB x 13.0 @ 1.95v, 2.60 GHz, 36C idle, 55C load

Unable to run stable at 1.925v. Won't be going much higher as my max vcore is 2.0v. Will run some 12-hour Prime95 tests this weekend.

Also, for those interested in underclocking a quiet Home Theater system, I was able to run as low as 1.1v vcore!

133 FSB x 11.5 @ 1.25v, 1.53 GHz

133 FSB x 10.5 @ 1.15v, 1.40 GHz

133 FSB x 10.0 @ 1.10v, 1.33 GHz
MB reporting temps so low I don't believe they could be correct.
Somebody should try this on an ABIT MB.

My rig:

Athlon 35w XP-M 2200+
Thermaltake SilentBoost w/AS5
Shuttle AN35N Ultra Refurb - $38 from NewEgg ;-)
3 x 256MB Kingston ValueRam PC3200 @ PC3200 2.5-3-3-11 (Samsung chips)
Maxtor 120GB, 7200RPM, 8MB
Sony 4x DVD+/-
Artec Combo DVD ROM / CD-RW
ATI Radeon 9000 Pro
Enermax 350w PSU
3 x 92mm 12v case fans @ 7v
 

Avalon

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Nice job on the OC, and wow for running the chip at 1.1v, that's pretty amazing. I wish my board had a bios option of less than 1.4v, but oh well. Nice job, another 2.6ghz on air reached :)
 

chsh1ca

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Originally posted by: Jen
I have these

Two AQYHA 0409 SPMW 2400+
Two AQYHA 0413 VPKW 2400+
Results? I've been looking at buying a DP board for XPs, and the XP-M would seem to be ideal for a dually system with some overclockability.
 

Connoisseur

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I have an AQYHA Mobile Barton 35w XP-M 2200+ (1.67 ghz default). I'm currently running at 12x200=2.4Ghz and 1.725V core. Idle temps at 45C and load is ~53-55C. Ambient temp is 45C. Values were taken using MBM. My setup is in my sig.

Edit: I only had enough time to run prime on this for 2 hours but no crashes. I will run 12 hour overnight. Even given my radeon 8500LE 128mb, I get 3dmark2001 scores of ~11000.... not bad at all ;).
 

EddNog

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My new 35watt 2400+ shipped in and is installed; am already running Prime95 In-place large FFT torture at 1.375volts, 200*9=1800MHz.

Already cleared five tests!

Will update with photos and more details in a few; touching up the images as I Prime to set the TIM.

-Ed

Edit: Here we go...

According to my trusty Entech TrueRMS Multimeter/Thermal Probe, the temperature of the air entering the front intake of my Super LAN Boy is 24C.

I am cooling the CPU with a Thermalright SP-97, and a Panaflo 92mm M1B at the full 12volts.

CPU is running at 9.0 * 200 = 1800MHz, with a Vcore setting of 1.375 (according to Motherboard Monitor 5.3.6.6 beta with uGuru support, it is actually at 1.40V).

Idle temperature is an incredible 29C!

Full load temp. is an equally remarkable 33C!!!

The same temperatures were reported by ABITEQ as well.

Unfortunately, I checked the OC Guru and it still doesn't allow any voltage under 1.375; I guess I'm SOL in terms of undervolting (or even stock volting!) this chip.

Will return with some more overclocking results in a few, but firstly; the photos!

Both chips, side-by-side; my new 35watter and my old 45watter, from left to right.

The 45watt 2400+...
The best I could pull off with this thing was 11.0 * 220 = 2420MHz, and that's with single-channel and CPU interface OFF! If I enabled CPU interface, it couldn't even do FSB200 stable (my board has already been L12 modded). If I did dual channel, same thing, evne FSB200 was too much. In fact, before I did L12, I could only hit FSB205 with CPU Interface OFF and single-channel!

The 35watt 2400+...
With my new chip, I'm already breaking new ground; it's right now running only single-channel (didn't try dual channel yet, as it's not as critical), but CPU Interface is ON and it's rock solid at FSB200! I will be cranking it up, of course, and will post up some more results later.

For those who are interested, the rig that I'm testing with is my NgTechnik Design Gamma Two; you can visit my web site right here. There is a page with more in-depth stuff on Gamma Two.

-Ed