The 35w Mobile Athlon CPU

[Avalon]

Hi all, just thought I'd make a fresh thread for this in which we could post all that is 35w mobile. Discussions, where to buy, and your OC results go here. This way we don't have multiple threads. Call this the all in one thread if you will. I just got my 2400+ from Newegg today. I'm running it desktop barton stock 166 x 11 @ 1.4v. Unfortunately, my mobo (8rda3i) doesn't allow me to go below 1.4v, so I could try it at 1.35v, but that's no biggy. It's running nice and cool at 34-35C idle. First time using my new tube of AS5. I'm used to using AS3. Seems a bit thicker. I'm going to start OCing now and post the results within the hour. Here's where you can buy them currently:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-440&depa=0 For the 2200+ 35w mobile, IN STOCK

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-439&depa=0 For the 2400+ 35w mobile, IN STOCK

http://www.excaliberpc.com/product_info.php?products_id=3767 For the 2400+ 35w mobile, IN STOCK - $105 + $5 shipping *NEW STEPPING. IQYHA.*

These are the only places I know of where you can get them besides attempting to bid on ebay.

Things to know about this CPU:

1) It's rated for 35w thermal output. It's default voltage in a laptop setting is 1.35v.
2) Very few, if any, desktop motherboards will recognize this CPU as a mobile barton right off the bat.
3) Typically, when you first bootup with this CPU, your mobo will default to 100x6, or something similar.
4) I've tested almost ten of these personally, and they all could do over a 200FSB, even though they are only rated for 133FSB operation. It's because these are the cream of the AMD XP crop.
5) They are OEM, so that means you're going to need a heatsink/fan to go with it.
6) When you install this CPU and boot into windows, make sure you go to windows update to make sure that you have the updated drivers for the CPU. It's just a safer bet to have them than to not.

Anything else you think should be added, just let me know. Just wanted to add a couple quickie helpful notes.

 

[gistech1978]

its AQYHA 0413 VPKW

i have it stable at 11*200 right now at 1.5v just where i decided to start at.
gonna try pushing it further in a few, but its passing prime95 as we speak. so far so good.

i shall keep you guys posted on how this turns out.

EDIT

well im posting this at 12.5*200, had to up to 1.75v to get p95 to even run more than 3 seconds.
running pretty hot though 55C, im not sure if i put on the ceramique all that well, though
its also fairly warm in my room at the moment.

EDIT 2

i couldnt get it stable at 12.5*200, so far i have it stable at 12*200 and 1.65v, im happy with this for the time being.
53.5C

 

[DaNorthface]

why is your chip so hot? What kind of heatsink do you have?

 

[Avalon]

2.4ghz @ stock desktop barton voltage is a good deal. I've started a bit of mild overclocking on mine, but was interrupted by dinner. Currently I've got the CPU running at 200 x 10 w/1.37v actual according to speedfan, prime95 stable at a load of 38C degrees
Time to see what it can really do.

 

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: DaNorthface
why is your chip so hot? What kind of heatsink do you have?

slk 900a
the system temp is 40C
like i said its not exactly cool temp wise in my room
probably 80-85 or so. no central a/c and the window unit is two rooms away in the kitchen.

and i might redo the ceramique application later. i think i might have put a bit too much on the die.

 

[Jen]

I have these

Two AQYHA 0409 SPMW 2400+
Two AQYHA 0413 VPKW 2400+


these are for a dual system , the 0409 have had a modification done to them. i will try these out tomorrow and hope they still work.

the other two are spares in case of mistakes , lets hope there is none



Jen

 

[SickBeast]

Hey Jen, what's the performance like with dual Bartons? Is it a substantial boost from a single CPU? I'm a CAD professional and do plenty of 3D Studio Max work. I know it's multithreaded, but how much benefit would I see?

Also, can you run PC3200 memory in the duallie boards? If it's PC2100 only, doesn't that cripple your memory performance in a very serious way?

Oh, and what about gaming? Can it touch my nForce2 setup?

Thanks. :beer:

 

[Avalon]

AQYHA 0413 VPKW 2400+

166FSB x 11 @ 1.4v = 1840mhz 38C max
200FSB x 10 @ 1.4v = 2000mhz 39C max
200FSB x 10.5 @ 1.45v = 2100mhz 41C max
216FSB x 10 @ 1.5v = 2160mhz 42C max
216FSB x 10.5 @ 1.575v = 2280mhz 43C max
216FSB x 11 @ 1.65v = 2390mhz 45C max
216FSB x 11.5 @ 1.775v = 2500mhz 51C max

This is what I'm currently sitting at. Voltages are bios settings, not actual. For my actual voltages, take off 0.025v. Speedfan is giving me an actual voltage of 1.75v right now. Temps are doing good, but I think I'm approaching my limit on air, according to my last huge jump in voltage. Back to the BIOS board

*Edit* Yep, hit my limit at 2600mhz, 1.925v, 1.9v actual. My 45w 2600+ mobile maxed out at 2600mhz, 1.875v, 1.85v actual. Looks like my 2600+ and 35w 2400+ tied when it comes to max raw speed on air cooling. I'd have to say the 2600+ wins in the 2600mhz department, because it took 0.05 less volts to run at that speed. I did notice, though, that at any speed 2400mhz or under, my 2400+ could run with 0.05v less than my 2600+. I figure I'm going to run my mobile at 2.4ghz, so running it with this 35w chip at 1.65v is a lot more acceptable than 1.7v it took for my 2600+. Overall I really like this chip. It was $15 cheaper than my 2600+, and for my purposes, will run cooler. If my chip is any indication of the rest of the batch, these are very handy chips indeed.

 

[gistech1978]

im really enjoying this chip.
i can definitely tell a difference in gaming.
i guess the double L2 cache makes a pretty big difference.

i rearranged my hdd cage to help intake a bit and cranked up my AC a bit, so im at 50C full load now.

i really wanna get to 2.5 with this chip but the difference in voltages needed to run it might not be worth it for an extra 100 mhz
cuz i think i would need 1.8v in bios to hit 2.5 ghz with this chip.

but either way this blows my Tbred B 2100+ away at 200x10.

:beer:

 

[Avalon]

Yeah, the voltage it took me to jump from 2.4 to 2.5 was crazy, and IMO, not really worth it. Are you currently running at 200x10 and getting 50C load? That is a bit high. I'm only getting 45C load at 216x11 with 1.65v, and it's fairly warm in my room too (82 degrees, live in florida). Perhaps you did put too much ceramique on your CPU. These chips are great, though

 

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: Avalon
Yeah, the voltage it took me to jump from 2.4 to 2.5 was crazy, and IMO, not really worth it. Are you currently running at 200x10 and getting 50C load? That is a bit high. I'm only getting 45C load at 216x11 with 1.65v, and it's fairly warm in my room too (82 degrees, live in florida). Perhaps you did put too much ceramique on your CPU. These chips are great, though

nah the 200*10 was on my 2100+ tbred b

im running at 12*200 on this chip at 50c load

i have a gallelio therometer in my room now...its about 80 even with cranking up the AC.
so...once it cools off in a few months or if i get the job in Oregon i applied for...hehe
i should be able to get up there a bit more.
if thats a reason to move somewhere else, to improve ocing.

 

[Avalon]

Could someone tell me what language this website is in?
I don't know what country it's from, but it has 2400+ 35w mobiles. Just do a search for the model number of the CPU, AXMD2400FJQ4C

http://www.2it.dk/shop/

.dk = Denmark?

 

[gistech1978]

looks like swedish to me
definitely scandanavian though be it either swedish, norwegian or finnish.

 

[Shimmishim]

got my 35 watter under a prommy now.

so far so good!

will wait to do high fsb's once it's been tested for stability... for now...

it's priming away at 15 x 200 = 3 ghz

screenies and everything to come later.

 

[Zebo]

Impressive. I can't wait....pure performance for almost nothing

 

[Avalon]

How much voltage are you giving it for 3ghz Shimmi? How hot is it running under load with your water cooling? Nice job!

 

[myocardia]

A "prommy" (aka Prometia) isn't watercooling, it's a $1,000 phase-change cooling system. Wish I had one...

 

[Avalon]

$1000, holy carp! That's steep! Well, that explains a lot. Talk about dedication to OCing!

 

[Shimmishim]

naw, i got mine pretty cheap from a user on anandtech....

he was selling a mach 1 for $350 so I jumped on it.

3.0 turned out to not be so stable

and whenever i try to get to vcore above 2.0, windows won't seem to boot so...

i'm currently stuck at 2.0 volts and 2.9 ghz...

i think this chip can do 3 ghz but i just need a little more voltage.



i'm gonna stick in my 2500+ mobile and see how it does...

argh but i corrupted my windows "font" folder and can't seem to fix it... hehehe...

 

[myocardia]

Dang, $350 for a Mach I? You better be glad I didn't see it before you did! Speaking of corrupting Windows, why in the world don't you use ClockGen when testing your overclocks, then change your bios when you know it's stable, like I do? I got tired of the reset jumper, and even more tired of reinstalling Windows.

 

[3LEMENT0]

hows the benchmarks running???? to bad newegg doesn't have it yet...I'm ordering my stuff right now from them.... XP-M 2600 instead of the 35W 2200

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: myocardia
Dang, $350 for a Mach I? You better be glad I didn't see it before you did! Speaking of corrupting Windows, why in the world don't you use ClockGen when testing your overclocks, then change your bios when you know it's stable, like I do? I got tired of the reset jumper, and even more tired of reinstalling Windows.

i dunno what i was thinking...

oh well...

i'm used to reinstalling windows.. oh well...

but the thing is... i didn't overclock it more when it got corrupted... it was still at 2.9...

oh well...

 

[myocardia]

Hmm, that's weird. Was it at 14.5x200? And you said that it was Prime95 stable at 2.9ghz, didn't you? Maybe that's because you don't run Prime the same way I do.

 

[ectx]

Anyone else has more information on these cpus?

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: myocardia
Hmm, that's weird. Was it at 14.5x200? And you said that it was Prime95 stable at 2.9ghz, didn't you? Maybe that's because you don't run Prime the same way I do.

lol...

i actually did 14 x 207 because the dfi bios i use doesn't have a 14.5 mult

either way, it was prime stable for 7.5 hours before i stopped (i usually do 6 hours).

well i've determined this is getting close to the limit of the chip...

i've tried booting up at 14 x 207 and then upping the fsb to get 3.0 ghz but windows keeps freezing up even when i use 2.1 volts...

so yeah... 2.9 is the limit of this 35w chip

i still have my 2500+ mobile that i'll try out tonight.

i'm hoping to get 3.0 with thie 2500+