I was trying to figure out what Motley Fools they were going to assemble for 2016. So far sounds like Jeb Bush, Fatty Bridgegate McGee, and Ted Murrica Cruz. Not disappointed so far. Lets see if they can get Palin and Bachmann to run. Toss in Rick "small govt, but push big govt polices" Santorum and we are setup for quite a spectacle in 2016. One positive from this is the most libertarian candidate Rand Paul will look sane compared to these people.
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The 2016 Republican primary freak show is on!!!
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Londo_Jowo
Lifer
He will be just like his father and only win in internet polling.
I don't doubt this at all. However put him on the podium compared to that list? He will sound sane. Sounding sane will help to get the msg across and change minds for the future.
Chris Rock should run for President.
Since you are a radical yourself, it's not surprising that you fail to see how utterly radical and out of the mainstream Ted Cruz is. Just like Ron Paul supporters, you can hope and plead for your candidate to be considered relevant and sane all you want, but reality will slap you in the face once again. Wanting Ted Cruz to be the candidate is one thing, though I think you have some issues if you are in this camp. Believing Ted Cruz WOULD BE a viable candidate in a general election proves you are off the reservation.
bshole
Diamond Member
Weirdly enough, Mr Cruz is MUCH more open to pot legalization than Hillary Clinton. How fucked up is that? In fact not a single potential Democratic candidate is pro-legalization while 3 potential Republican candidates are. What in the hell is wrong with the Democrats? That is just plain pathetic.
Rick Perry of all people said the following:
I would vote for a Republican if pot legalization was a cornerstone of their agenda.
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/04/weed-is-the-sleeper-issue-of-2016/360250/
Rick Perry of all people said the following:
I would vote for a Republican if pot legalization was a cornerstone of their agenda.
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/04/weed-is-the-sleeper-issue-of-2016/360250/
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schmuckley
Platinum Member
Yes!
tbh,I like Ben Carson.
(queue the left starts digging/manufacturing dirt on him)
Cruz lost me when he started talking "unlimited campaign contributions"
as that is a major flaw in the political system today.
Spungo
Diamond Member
I'm sure the Obama birthers will be all over Cruz since their complaint was always about birth origin and had nothing to do with race 😉
thraashman
Lifer
Dude, no one needs to dig up or manufacture dirt on Ben Carson. He just keeps making stupid public statements. Cruz lost me a long ass time before the unlimited campaign contributions, but I do agree with you that his desire to make the government purchasable was his biggest fuck up to date.
hal2kilo
Lifer
Fear of what happened when Jimmy Carter proposed pot legalization. Dems have there own, status quo issues to get over.
thraashman
Lifer
I've been having fun lately in article comments in regards to Cruz. Since you have the obviously not racist people who make sure to refer to the President as Barack HUSSEIN Obama, I've taken to referring to Rafael Cruz to remind them of his Hispanic half. Though since Cruz's skin is light and not dark, you know the KK... I mean Tea Party won't care.
Best that conservatives cut the military and the police state because if liberals lead, conservatives will play the fear card.
Spungo
Diamond Member
Very true. If a democrat cuts $10, the next conservative will increase it by $20 just to show how bad ass he is. If a conservative cuts the military, it's because he's being fiscally responsible. Don't you dare call him weak!
He does remind me strongly of Smokin' Joe but not so smart. Well, or maybe smarter because he doesn't claim to have numbers like Joe did.
Are you kidding. You would just be more inclined to vote for him.
bshole
Diamond Member
Legalized pot on a nationwide basis would have such a tremendous positive impact on American society, it overshadows most other issues. Can you think of any other potential issue which would have such an immediate effect? I can't. We are on the cusp of a watershed moment in American history, a moment where personal freedom is taken back, where the police state is thwarted. Every Democratic candidate is on the WRONG fucking side! Jesus Christ, it is absolutely surreal.
That's not accurate at all. Decrim is a humjob. It just means offenders get a citation instead of arrest. Repeat offenders get jail time. Growers & providers still get prison time.
In its own way, it's more dishonest than prohibition.
Great flip-flop from Perry, in any case. Texas enforces some of the harshest pot laws in the country. Rand Paul demonizes users in a backhand way, claiming it "takes away the incentive to work". You know- lazy stoners.
Can't figure it out? Watch what happens to the current Senate bill to reschedule cannabis at the national level. If it passes, it'll be because some Repubs cross over to vote with Dems.
Damn dude, I'm as solid in the pro-legalization camp as they come, but lets not get carried away.
More false attribution in several different directions, too. If you think that Repub politicians intend to sell legalization to their uber conservative authoritarian base, you're delusional.
The watershed event has already occurred- the 2012 election. Citizen initiatives in WA & CO combined with support from the Obama admin have left prohibition snakebit. They lose the only real weapon they ever had- fear of the unknown.
kage69
Lifer
The problem with that view is that in order to believe it, you have to convince yourself that the country's views on marijuana have remained static since the late 70s - early 80s.
Which would be impressive in a weird sort of way, but couldn't be more wrong. I'd say it would likely lead others to question your motives and powers of observation if you've managed to somehow ignore the direction states and voters are heading regarding medical and recreational use of mj.
Dems have little to fear on that issue, cerainly magnitudes less than their morally upright, anti-science authoritarian counterparts in the GOP. I think bshole is spot on with his assessment. I wouldn't have agreed 15-20 years ago, but today? No argument whatsoever.
Londo_Jowo
Lifer
Is this the same person that got his pants in a wad over at TV show that showed marijuana usage???
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=37177915
Not only that, but plenty of Republican candidates deny the science on climate change just like you do too!
Maybe you're a Republican and you just didn't realize it until now.
bshole
Diamond Member
You still don't get it do you? I have been strongly for drug legalization since the early 80s. I have never changed in that stance. What in the fuck does have to do with what is shown on network TV? Having sex is legal and you certainly can't show that on network TV.
This should be no surprise to anyone, this is the very reason he has done what he has in his time in government. He had to make a name for himself so people knew who he was.
This is the kind of person you should be scared based on how much they want power, and what they are willing to do and say for it.
This is the kind of person you should be scared based on how much they want power, and what they are willing to do and say for it.
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