The 2016 Republican primary freak show is on!!!

[Jhhnn]

I will say this for Obama, he did limit siezed-asset sharing in January of this year (through Holder of course). That is a step in the right direction for freedom. Kudos to him for that. I would love to see civil asset forfeiture wiped from the face of earth. It is one of the most disgusting things to rise from the war on drugs. Like I said Obama could have done a whole lot more but I concede that he did do some things.

I hope we can start a snowball effect in the right direction. We need a Democratic candidate to make this their platform. I am having difficulty coming to grips with some Republican candidates being closer to correct on this issue than all the Democratic candidates. Democrats are the party of personal freedom and science, this should be a no brainer....

Oh, please. Repub candidates aren't closer to correct- they're just trying to convince you that they are. It's all mealy mouthed bullshit whether you realize it or not.

The Obama admin could have killed legalization in the crib, at least the retail part, simply by asserting the supremacy of federal law. Like Bambi vs Godzilla, which was Mitt's promise.

Not one of the Repub hopefuls has gone as far as Hillary-

Hillary Clinton has pledged to end medical marijuana raids against users in states in which the use is legal.[210] On legalization of marijuana for recreational purposes, Clinton says "states are the laboratories of democracy" and she wants to "wait and see what the evidence is" before enacting a national policy.[211]

That is basically an endorsement of state level legalization & Obama Admin policy, in case you didn't notice. Obviously, States that legalize will never go back voluntarily.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...cal_marijuana_and_marijuana_decriminalization

 

[ttown]

Of course they were full of crap, that why Fox News promoted them and the idea. It was a backhanded way of saying to faithful "we don't want the negro"

Hillary was the first birther. Glad to know you and glen will join me in voting against her. LOL

And as a side note: I've noticed not one actual bad thing being presented against Cruz. Unless we count the racist liberals that hate Canadians.

 

[HomerJS]

Hillary was the first birther. Glad to know you and glen will join me in voting against her. LOL

And as a side note: I've noticed not one actual bad thing being presented against Cruz. Unless we count the racist liberals that hate Canadians.

Hillary did her op research got some info on this and decided not to pursue. The right wing nuts and Fox News ran with it.

So what's your point again?

 

[pcgeek11]

lol, I'm as right-wing as they come and this is a sad post. Do you really think Ted Cruz is a fringe candidate without the slightest hope of winning the nomination?

No I didn't imply that he stood no chance. I was pointing out the crazy Dem Candidates for those that were pointing and joking about Ted Cruz.

 

[pcgeek11]

Does this mean that the Righthadist will go after him because he is not a natural born citizen of the US?

But he is a " Natural Born " Citizen of the US.

The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. A 2011 Congressional Research Service report stated that:

" The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth." Such term, however, would not include a person who was not a U.S. citizen by birth or at birth, and who was thus born an "alien" required to go through the legal process of "naturalization" to become a U.S. citizen. "

 

[pcgeek11]

Ted ain't goin' nowhere. Neither is Jeb...and neither is Hillary.

I want someone from Left Field...or Right...to come in and steal the show! Spoil all the would-be pretenders to the crown who feel they have a birth right!

<--- Still wish Condi Rice would throw her hat into the game just for giggles!

I would love it if she did. She would have my vote.

 

[pcgeek11]

Are you kidding. You would just be more inclined to vote for him.

Nice dodge. Hillary teach you that move?

 

[boomerang]

democrats are the party of personal freedom

lmfao!!

 

[Bitek]

I like some of the Winner Democrat contenders:

Jeff Boss 2016
Conspiracy theorist and perennial candidate from New Jersey:
JEFF BOSS WITNESSED THE TOP HIGHEST CLEARANCE IN THE NSA GIVING PHONE CARDS TO THE 911 HIJACKERS IN MARCH OF 2001, AND TALKING ABOUT FLYING 12 PLANES INTO BUILDINGS ON THE SAME DAY.
http://www.jeffbossforpresident.org/

Vermin Supreme 2016
Performance artist and perennial candidate from Massachusetts
Riding our ponies into a zombie powered future.
http://www.verminsupreme2016.com/

There are crazies on both sides...

Really? You are trying to honestly equate those two nobodies to Ted Cruz?

Cruz is a sitting us senator of considerable political influence. Enough so that he is able to swing large pockets of house members against their leadership and engineer intraparty standoffs at the highest levels.

But I will give you the fact he is a performance artist. He plays the magic right wing money machine brilliantly. He just inserts stupid and money and power flow right out.

Your post basically proves that D's have the good sense to leave the loons on the street corners, and not promote them into national leadership.:awe:

 

[bshole]

No I didn't imply that he stood no chance. I was pointing out the crazy Dem Candidates for those that were pointing and joking about Ted Cruz.

Actually he has no chance at all. Look at Jeb Bush's war chest. Money buys elections. It would take a freak event for Jeb to lose at this point. He has sewn this thing up before it even started.

Jeb Bush’s money juggernaut is far eclipsing the efforts of his would-be rivals for the 2016 GOP presidential nomination, putting his two political committees on pace to amass an unprecedented sum of tens of millions of dollars by early spring.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...d3c076-b2f1-11e4-886b-c22184f27c35_story.html

 

[glenn1]

Hillary was the first birther. Glad to know you and glen will join me in voting against her. LOL

And as a side note: I've noticed not one actual bad thing being presented against Cruz. Unless we count the racist liberals that hate Canadians.

I wouldn't rule out voting for Hilary but doubt I will - even disregarding her views she's not very good at being a politician which is why she lost to Obama the last go-around. She's not the ultra-liberal people say she is and could easily fill the Olympia Snowe moderate role if she wanted to. But the lack of political acumen, her near Nixonian levels of paranoia and need for secrecy, and just general tone deafness hurt her badly. Like I said in an earlier thread I don't think she'll win the general and might not even the Dem primary.

 

[HomerJS]

A point of irony

Ted Cruz who pontificates about returning our liberty and rails agains the evils of overreaching government. His largest piece of evidence is the ACA and the individual mandate.

So what does Rafael do, organize an event to be the head of this intrusive federal government. At this rally students were mandated to attend this event and pretend to love him, you know like North Korea. Failure to attend is met with a fine. Sounds errily like the IM of the ACA.

So, how do you Tea Partiers square this??

 

[Jhhnn]

A point of irony

Ted Cruz who pontificates about returning our liberty and rails agains the evils of overreaching government. His largest piece of evidence is the ACA and the individual mandate.

So what does Rafael do, organize an event to be the head of this intrusive federal government. At this rally students were mandated to attend this event and pretend to love him, you know like North Korea. Failure to attend is met with a fine. Sounds errily like the IM of the ACA.

So, how do you Tea Partiers square this??

They don't even try to square it- they just put it out of their minds. They've been thoroughly conditioned to disregard inconvenient facts.

 

[schmuckley]

A point of irony

Ted Cruz who pontificates about returning our liberty and rails agains the evils of overreaching government. His largest piece of evidence is the ACA and the individual mandate.

So what does Rafael do, organize an event to be the head of this intrusive federal government. At this rally students were mandated to attend this event and pretend to love him, you know like North Korea. Failure to attend is met with a fine. Sounds errily like the IM of the ACA.

So, how do you Tea Partiers square this??

At no point were the students forced to pretend to love him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N9H1SHL6Pg
yeah..that enthusiasm is fake. D:
PS:I'm going to call it now:Ted Cruz will be the next president.

 

[Victorian Gray]

A point of irony

Ted Cruz who pontificates about returning our liberty and rails agains the evils of overreaching government. His largest piece of evidence is the ACA and the individual mandate.

So what does Rafael do, organize an event to be the head of this intrusive federal government. At this rally students were mandated to attend this event and pretend to love him, you know like North Korea. Failure to attend is met with a fine. Sounds errily like the IM of the ACA.

So, how do you Tea Partiers square this??

It was the Onion.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-students-had-to-attend-ted-cruz-rally-or-fa,38291/

 

[Mxylplyx]

At no point were the students forced to pretend to love him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N9H1SHL6Pg
yeah..that enthusiasm is fake. D:
PS:I'm going to call it now:Ted Cruz will be the next president.

If Ted Cruz could somehow get the nomination (he wont), and Hillary have a stroke a month before the election, the Democrats could STILL come up with a candidate that would beat Cruz. I've never been much of an activist in politics, but if someone like Ted Cruz had even an outside shot of leading this country I would become one real quick.

 

[trenchfoot]

At this point, if it were at all possible I'd rather vote for Bush 43 than Cruz, and for me that's saying a lot. At least Bush was a down home kind'a guy that I think I could actually relate to.

This guy Cruz, he's an operator. He's the self-anointed chief rabble rouser of the wingnut fringe within the wingnut fringe. He's a one trick pony that would be put down without a care if not for the Tea Party whackos cheering him on.

That soured crop of Tea Party legislators that Cruz came in with and of whom got weaned on the "Gotta get that Black Muslim no birth cert commie out of office no matter what" mantra are political anomalies. They're a by-product of the Fear and Hate propaganda campaign against Obama that the GOP ratcheted up to ridiculous levels of incredulity. And now we must all suffer for that stunt.

Cruz is indicative of a virtual far right wing pandemic that's spreading throughout the Repub Party. If the GOP wants to survive this scourge, they need to get a firm grip around the necks of these loonies and give'um a really good rattling shake down. After all, they created that rotten spoiled brat. The least they can do is rein them in good and proper.

 

[zinfamous]

At no point were the students forced to pretend to love him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N9H1SHL6Pg
yeah..that enthusiasm is fake. D:
PS:I'm going to call it now:Ted Cruz will be the next president.

care to make a wager?

 

[HomerJS]

At no point were the students forced to pretend to love him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N9H1SHL6Pg
yeah..that enthusiasm is fake. D:
PS:I'm going to call it now:Ted Cruz will be the next president.

Watch again at students in background as Rafael says he's running. See that gradual forced applause?

So you are ok with the college requiring them to attend or face fine? Sort of like an individual mandate.

Why can't Uncle Ted get his own cheerleaders not hold some at gunpoint?

 

[ivwshane]

Watch again at students in background as Rafael says he's running. See that gradual forced applause?

So you are ok with the college requiring them to attend or face fine? Sort of like an individual mandate.

Why can't Uncle Ted get his own cheerleaders not hold some at gunpoint?

To be fair, it wasn't a real college😉

 

[schmuckley]

care to make a wager?

5 Dolla :awe:

 

[glenn1]

5 Dolla :awe:

Make sure he means "...of the United States" before you take that bet.

 

[bshole]

At this point, if it were at all possible I'd rather vote for Bush 43 than Cruz, and for me that's saying a lot. At least Bush was a down home kind'a guy that I think I could actually relate to.

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Jesus, he has no shot. The Republican nominee has already been selected by the monied elite. They have slected Bush and are in the process of giving him the funds to squash every other contender. So we have a nice establishment Republican to run against the nice establishment Democrat (Clinton). Jesus these two are so alike they could run on the same fucking ticket. Representative government my ass!!!

 

[hal2kilo]

Jesus, he has no shot. The Republican nominee has already been selected by the monied elite. They have slected Bush and are in the process of giving him the funds to squash every other contender. So we have a nice establishment Republican to run against the nice establishment Democrat (Clinton). Jesus these two are so alike they could run on the same fucking ticket. Representative government my ass!!!

America only accepts minor shifts in the status quo. Thats what cracks me up about people getting appoplactic about our elections.

 

[Mxylplyx]

Jesus, he has no shot. The Republican nominee has already been selected by the monied elite. They have slected Bush and are in the process of giving him the funds to squash every other contender. So we have a nice establishment Republican to run against the nice establishment Democrat (Clinton). Jesus these two are so alike they could run on the same fucking ticket. Representative government my ass!!!

I have no problem with establishment candidates as long as they are driven by pragmatism rather than ideology. The establishment pushing the likes of Bush and Romney on the party are justifiable attempts to keep the party relevant, because the Republican base doesnt seem to realize how utterly unelectable and out of the mainstream their preferred candidates are. Perhaps the establishment should have held back and let the Republicans base nominate one of the clowns from the last Republican primary in an attempt to teach their base a lesson by letting the candidate get humiliated in the general election. Only problem with that is the lesson they would take away from it is that whatever nut job did get the nomination lost because he/she wasn't conservative enough.