I have a soldiers helm and I finally unlocked all 6 of the new items by Monday night. Over the long weekend, I probably played ~10 hours and idled another 20-25.
Overall ranking of unlockables (for me) would be jarate > cloak and dagger > huntsman > ambassador > dead ringer > razorback.
If you could work it into your strategy, I can see the dead ringer being higher ranked, but most people are aware of it now and will still spy check the area immediately after a spy dies.
The huntsman may end up being the best item for people who prefer playing more up close as sniper, it can be fairly powerful if you get used to the left offset (diminishes with distance) and slight dip in the arrows trajectory due to gravity.
Razorback seems almost completely useless no matter how you look at it, particularly because it's VISIBLE to the damn spy. Point blank revolver/ambassador shots will take you out just as quickly.
Overall ranking of unlockables (for me) would be jarate > cloak and dagger > huntsman > ambassador > dead ringer > razorback.
If you could work it into your strategy, I can see the dead ringer being higher ranked, but most people are aware of it now and will still spy check the area immediately after a spy dies.
The huntsman may end up being the best item for people who prefer playing more up close as sniper, it can be fairly powerful if you get used to the left offset (diminishes with distance) and slight dip in the arrows trajectory due to gravity.
Razorback seems almost completely useless no matter how you look at it, particularly because it's VISIBLE to the damn spy. Point blank revolver/ambassador shots will take you out just as quickly.
Praxis1452
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- Jan 31, 2006
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I do the idle whenever I'm not playing pretty much.
Good chance the server lasts 12 hours or so... so... 12+ however much I play a day. It adds up quick.
WT
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I like the Medic's kaiser helm. It fits with the German dialect obviously, and looks shiny to boot !
Sat on an achievements_idle for 30 minutes this morning, just to see what it was like. I've never resorted to them before, but I'm trying very hard to get anything to help out my sad Spy skillz. C&D looks like a perfect unlock.
Sat on an achievements_idle for 30 minutes this morning, just to see what it was like. I've never resorted to them before, but I'm trying very hard to get anything to help out my sad Spy skillz. C&D looks like a perfect unlock.
postmortemIA
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- Jul 11, 2006
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I got 4 ubersaws and 3 backburners, but only 1 new item. The new patch adds back in the milestones to get items, which is way better.
Born2bwire
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- Oct 28, 2005
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I also read that they put out a fix to try and correct the problems with people getting too many duplicates and some people not getting any items.
GodlessAstronomer
Lifer
- Oct 27, 2007
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Okay I quit playing this game a couple of weeks after release out of sheer boredom, but decided to pick it up again yesterday to see what all the update buzz is about. Can someone please explain to me just what the fuck is going on? Why are there players out there with substantially better weapons than me? Why in the hell would Valve decide it's a good idea to make the unlocks so superior? Why is it fair that some people can kick my ass just because I don't have the time to devote to unlocking the weapons?
Which brings me to my next question: how in the fuck do I unlock the weapons? I have browsed numerous articles and forum posts, but it seems Valve change their minds every 5 minutes so I can't find a consistent answer. Do I need to do achievement unlocks? Or is it a matter of just killing lots of people and waiting for random drops? Or do I need to be playing the classes for whom I want stuff?
Valve have really make a fuck-up of this game for anyone who doesn't follow gaming forums religiously. There seems to be absolutely no documentation, and they're relying on random forum posts to disseminate information about the game.
Which brings me to my next question: how in the fuck do I unlock the weapons? I have browsed numerous articles and forum posts, but it seems Valve change their minds every 5 minutes so I can't find a consistent answer. Do I need to do achievement unlocks? Or is it a matter of just killing lots of people and waiting for random drops? Or do I need to be playing the classes for whom I want stuff?
Valve have really make a fuck-up of this game for anyone who doesn't follow gaming forums religiously. There seems to be absolutely no documentation, and they're relying on random forum posts to disseminate information about the game.
Born2bwire
Diamond Member
- Oct 28, 2005
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Just read the update news provided with the game. You randomly get unlocks as you play but you can also get any of the weapon unlocks through the previous method of achievements.
BlueAcolyte
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marmasatt
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- Jan 30, 2003
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I agree. I'm not saying you suck Godless, but I don't even use half my updates. Although the new ones I have to agree are decent. I can't play Huntsman,.. Razorback is kind of useless, Backburner is kind of useless because you need compression. I got my Jar of piss yesterday but haven't tried it yet. I do have to say I am absolutely loving Spy. God why did I wait so long to play this class. I was absolutely terrible before playing about 6 hours this week. I actually MVP's w/ 38 pts or something last night on a full server as a SPY....And I still am not that good.
no. i almost never use compression, and if you do use it you are not playing the pyro correctly. however I make that up with flare gun.
GodlessAstronomer
Lifer
- Oct 27, 2007
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No I actually do suck
I haven't put a lot of hours into the game, but I'm frustrated. The scout has that kick-ass shotgun, the heavy has a much nicer gun, medic has the improved bonesaw, scout has the ridiculously overpowered baseball thing, the pyro has the improved flamer, etc. It's not only that they feel overpowered, but it pisses me off that I don't have access to parts of the game just because I don't have time to dedicate 25+ hours a week to the game. I happen to have had some time this weekend and after about 9 hours of play I have unlocked the sniper's jar of piss (which is pretty crappy) and the improved spy pistol, which I don't use because I don't play spy. Why the hell can't I get access to the fun stuff? It's annoying and I think they've done a really bad job of it.
Infinity Ward did a similar thing in Call of Duty 4, but it wasn't nearly as frustrating for two reasons: as you level up there is a constant stream of new weapons, and you can focus on certain weapon classes to open up the ones you're aiming for. As far as I can tell the weapons you "find" in TF2 are completely random - I never play sniper or scout yet I got their upgrades.
In summary, I think Valve did an extremely shitty job of implementing a leveling system that has proven to work well in other shooters.
postmortemIA
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- Jul 11, 2006
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compression blast is useful in team play: moving uber enemy away, returning demoman's grenades.
however, backburner is very powerful from behind.
however, backburner is very powerful from behind.
They effed up the back-detection or something because I barely ever get the back-crit anymore. So, I have gone back to the regular air-blast version with random crits.
- Jan 2, 2006
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I agree. Back detection sucks. Compare this with the spy's "backstab" which can stab within almost a 180 degree range from the center of the back.
I've been face-stabbed as much as back-stabbed, and have missed so many back-stabs due to crappy hit detection. Thus, spy, sniper and scout are among my least played classes.
brblx
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- Mar 23, 2009
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back-stabbing should have never even been implemented, especially not in the shoddy way that it exists now...
and i still can't get the rest of my unlocks. i now have three of almost everything in my inventory. i'm going to have to achievement grind if i want the spy unlocks (i'm not sure i really care).
and i still can't get the rest of my unlocks. i now have three of almost everything in my inventory. i'm going to have to achievement grind if i want the spy unlocks (i'm not sure i really care).
done the achievement_idle today and it is a so much easier to get unlocks, already gotten a shield and the death watch.
Fenixgoon
Lifer
- Jun 30, 2003
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unlocks can now be received through achievements, just like previous classes:
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/58870
zerocool84
Lifer
- Nov 11, 2004
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Good cus I haven't gotten any unlocks through playing. Not even duplicates. Off to achievement servers
join this server:
174.34.160.104:27015
took me 30 minutes to get all of my spy unlocks. you got a team line up for you to back stab LOL
snipers unlocks can be easily done in normal game.
174.34.160.104:27015
took me 30 minutes to get all of my spy unlocks. you got a team line up for you to back stab LOL
snipers unlocks can be easily done in normal game.
zerocool84
Lifer
- Nov 11, 2004
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- 472
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I've been looking for a good achievement server. Every other one was full. Got all the spy/sniper weapons in 45min. Thanks :thumbsup:
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