Texas State Board of Education votes to erase Hillary Clinton from history curriculum

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PumpkinCake

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lol centrist to full blown maga in 7 pages. Not a record by any stretch but certainly not a surprise.

Could you imagine living such a life that you’d have to pretend to be something you are not because reality is too difficult for you?

I primarily vote democrat. But, this is what I was talking about in some other thread, for whatever reason liberals paint you as "MAGA" if you don't toe the party line.
 
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HomerJS

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The United States meddles in every election of a leader in every single civilized country on this planet. You think they don't mess with their own? Again, both sides do it. Even if you want to narrow it down to "legal" gerrymandering. Anyone who insists that our elections have zero problems are being disingenuous.
Gerrymandering. Legal makes it right? Segregation was legal at one time. Democrats want to end gerrymandering but Republicans are blocking it. It would be political suicide to unilaterally disengage from that process. So your contention "everybody does it" is very misleading.

Republicans in Alabama not only violated the Voting Rights Act by disenfranchising black citizens political power when SCOTUS told them for fix it they initially refused.

Now, tell me again about both sides.
 

HomerJS

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I primarily vote democrat. But, this is what I was talking about in some other thread, for whatever reason liberals paint you as "MAGA" if you don't toe the party line.
They paint you MAGA if you mislead and lie.
 

ivwshane

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I primarily vote democrat. But, this is what I was talking about in some other thread, for whatever reason liberals paint you as "MAGA" if you don't toe the party line.

If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck. So if you don’t want to be accused of being a maga then you should probably stop posting exactly what a maga would post.
 

JD50

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I primarily vote democrat. But, this is what I was talking about in some other thread, for whatever reason liberals paint you as "MAGA" if you don't toe the party line.
You get labeled MAGA when you ignore reality and repeat MAGA talking points. That's your problem not ours.
 
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HomerJS

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I can't stand trump as a person. He's obnoxious, entitled, egotistical. But the "people in power" hated trump. He couldn't be bought. He made some decisions I didn't agree with, but they at least were not a result of big money lobbyists, of family being employee by foreign borderline adversaries. His decisions were his - right or wrong.
His picks for SCOTUS were the result of big money billionaires. All the crap that has come from Clarence Thomas shows that.

Trump funneling government travel to his own resorts shows his big money interests were his own companies.
 
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ch33zw1z

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I can't stand trump as a person. He's obnoxious, entitled, egotistical. But the "people in power" hated trump. He couldn't be bought. He made some decisions I didn't agree with, but they at least were not a result of big money lobbyists, of family being employee by foreign borderline adversaries. His decisions were his - right or wrong.

Lel, couldn’t be bought?
 

NWRMidnight

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Power dynamics in relationships are a thing. It becomes very difficult to argue that something is completely consensual when it's a boss, a particularly powerful one at that, and a young subordinate. I think it's okay to say what Bill Clinton did re:sex scandal is bad.
You mean where women are attracted to powerful men and come on them first? As in the case with Monica? Really, All you are describing is weakness that was developed and nurtered by poor parenting by raising them to be summisive and to fear those in authority. Women who are summisive and fear authority generally are not attracted to those in power, and don't come on to them as they fear them.
 

NWRMidnight

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I personally consider it literal rape.

She couldn't say no. This isn't even like, a boss demands a blowie maybe you lose a job. It's the literal President of the United States. If the President tells you to suck a dick, you're sucking that dick. Or else constantly looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life.

What she did say, and it's absolutely correct, is that the power dynamic of the President is so massive that she felt like she had no choice. He held a figurative gun to her head, and raped that poor college girl.
More bullshit! I feel sorry for your kids, because it's appearant you are raising them to be summisive to those in authority. My daughter would would have told Bill to kick rocks, and would have knocked his teeth out if he tried to force her, doesn't matter if he was President or not.
 

cytg111

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The United States meddles in every election of a leader in every single civilized country on this planet. You think they don't mess with their own? Again, both sides do it. Even if you want to narrow it down to "legal" gerrymandering. Anyone who insists that our elections have zero problems are being disingenuous.
Watching from outside, the fact that you elected Donald Trump sealed it for me.
You really think if "the deeps state" or whatever establishment entity held corrupt power of the election they would not have stopped him?
The fact the DJT was elected POTUS is about as purebred evidence as you can get that your vote counts. No one around to save you from yourself, you gonna do stupid shit, you get stupid shit.
 
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You mean where women are attracted to powerful men and come on them first? As in the case with Monica? Really, All you are describing is weakness that was developed and nurtered by poor parenting by raising them to be summisive and to fear those in authority. Women who are summisive and fear authority generally are not attracted to those in power, and don't come on to them as they fear them.
Can you write your post with a little less misogyny?

Work place romances, regardless of the parties' consent, are explicitly prone to issues regarding power dynamics. We're not talking about some random person being attracted to the president and acting on it. We're talking about someone who was employed by the White House, and engaged in a relationship of some kind with the boss. It's has the high potential for abuse, like any other boss/subordinate sexual relationship, thanks to implied quid pro quo (ie, "give into my sexual advances and I'll see you get promoted or favorable treatment") and whatnot.
 
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JD50

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Keep in mind the person you guys are arguing with has been bending over backwards to defend Mr. "Grab them by the pussy". His concern about Bill Clinton is not genuine.
 
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PumpkinCake

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Keep in mind the person you guys are arguing with has been bending over backwards to defend Mr. "Grab them by the pussy". His concern about Bill Clinton is not genuine.
I’ve made it very clear that trump is obnoxious, egotistical, and has made some bad decisions. I’m definitely not bending over backwards to support him.
 

NWRMidnight

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Can you write your post with a little less misogyny?

Work place romances, regardless of the parties' consent, are explicitly prone to issues regarding power dynamics. We're not talking about some random person being attracted to the president and acting on it. We're talking about someone who was employed by the White House, and engaged in a relationship of some kind with the boss. It's has the high potential for abuse, like any other boss/subordinate sexual relationship, thanks to implied quid pro quo (ie, "give into my sexual advances and I'll see you get promoted or favorable treatment") and whatnot.
There was no misogyny in my post. However, your response here is a different story. You are implying that women give into sexual advances from those in power, to gain promotions, which further implies that they persue men in power for that purpose. Yes, there are dynamics that at play in such a relationship, but in most cases, it's not the one in power who is trying to us their power for personal gain, in such a relationship, regardless if it is a man or a women in power, or if it's a man or women who's the employee. Most boss/empoyee relationships have nothing to do with personal gain. Further more, you and PumpkinCake are pushing the narrative that all women are weak and have no choice but to give into a President's sexual advances/demands because of who is, and his position of power, which is complete bullshit!
 
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ch33zw1z

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Yes I know you've said that, right in between spouting nonstop MAGA talking points about "Both Sides". You're not fooling anyone
Maybe just himself? I did that same stuff when I was young. Not MAGA, but same ole song and dance.
 

PumpkinCake

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Yes I know you've said that, right in between spouting nonstop MAGA talking points about "Both Sides". You're not fooling anyone

What maga talking points? I wish you liberals would understand that just because someone agrees with you on 90% of things, that a 10% isn’t worthy of pushing people further away as a party member.
 

ch33zw1z

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What maga talking points? I wish you liberals would understand that just because someone agrees with you on 90% of things, that a 10% isn’t worthy of pushing people further away as a party member.
ah yes, this pinnacle of reasonable expectations, who also misrepresents basic U.S. events that would be difficult to work thru the cognitive dissonance.
 

JD50

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What maga talking points? I wish you liberals would understand that just because someone agrees with you on 90% of things, that a 10% isn’t worthy of pushing people further away as a party member.

They've already been pointed out to you and refuted, go back and respond to those posts if you'd like.
 

HomerJS

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If you want to make her a footnote for those who have to study NY state history, fine. Most kids study US history and the history of their state. Kids in Texas don't need to know who she was 50 years from now when most of us will be pushing up daises.
Let's have the Governors in each state scan history books and removed the parts of history they don't like. Sounds like a working plan.

Republicans attempting to remove the parts of history dealing with this country's racism.

Indoctrination much?
 

SteveGrabowski

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Yes I know you've said that, right in between spouting nonstop MAGA talking points about "Both Sides". You're not fooling anyone
That loser has been regurgitating MAGA talking points since he got to this forum