Texas State Board of Education votes to erase Hillary Clinton from history curriculum

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ch33zw1z

Lifer
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Yes

Any other educational topic, as things are discovered books are updated. For whatever reason history is the main one that it seems like do not get updated curriculums

Probably a little too early to include when the conservatives tried to overthrow our democracy. We should let all the trials play out first.
 

PumpkinCake

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Remember @PumpkinCake is a "centrist" but Jan 6th was just a "protest". Kind of hard to take that kind of delusion seriously.

I am a centrist. And personally, I think if you have a grievance with the government, protesting at a govt building makes a lot more sense than looting Nike's and Neiman Marcus'. Burning down and looting small business in your community. Hell burn down a police station, would make more sense than the methods the stauch leftists use to "protest"
 

PumpkinCake

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Probably a little too early to include when the conservatives tried to overthrow our democracy. We should let all the trials play out first.

Every President has the right to contest the election. There were some arguably very bad things happening leading up to that election. Note that BOTH sides do shady as shit things during elections, but this one in particular was problematic. I honor the results of an honest election, I definitely don't think Trump won or Biden outright stole it. But it was definitely not some clear cut thing.
 

ch33zw1z

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I am a centrist. And personally, I think if you have a grievance with the government, protesting at a govt building makes a lot more sense than looting Nike's and Neiman Marcus'. Burning down and looting small business in your community. Hell burn down a police station, would make more sense than the methods the stauch leftists use to "protest"

One of your examples was an attempt to violently overthrow democracy.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Hilary Clinton deserves as much ink as any other US Senator. And you want to exclude her, why?

I guess that takes us back to the OP
If you want to make her a footnote for those who have to study NY state history, fine. Most kids study US history and the history of their state. Kids in Texas don't need to know who she was 50 years from now when most of us will be pushing up daises.
 

ch33zw1z

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Every President has the right to contest the election. There were some arguably very bad things happening leading up to that election. Note that BOTH sides do shady as shit things during elections, but this one in particular was problematic. I honor the results of an honest election, I definitely don't think Trump won or Biden outright stole it. But it was definitely not some clear cut thing.

10 million more voted, 60 court cases booted for lack of evidence. It was pretty clear cut.

You’re better off arguing how slim the 2016 election was, and how election interference could have easily swayed it
 
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ch33zw1z

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If you want to make her a footnote for those who have to study NY state history, fine. Most kids study US history and the history of their state. Kids in Texas don't need to know who she was 50 years from now when most of us will be pushing up daises.

I think she should be a central figure in the depiction of right wing alt-facts, hypocrisy, and out right nuttery. You know, the party you vote for
 

PumpkinCake

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10 million more voted, 60 court cases booted for lack of evidence. It was pretty clear cut.


The United States meddles in every election of a leader in every single civilized country on this planet. You think they don't mess with their own? Again, both sides do it. Even if you want to narrow it down to "legal" gerrymandering. Anyone who insists that our elections have zero problems are being disingenuous.
 

brycejones

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I am a centrist. And personally, I think if you have a grievance with the government, protesting at a govt building makes a lot more sense than looting Nike's and Neiman Marcus'. Burning down and looting small business in your community. Hell burn down a police station, would make more sense than the methods the stauch leftists use to "protest
Uh, huh tell us more.
 

ch33zw1z

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The United States meddles in every election of a leader in every single civilized country on this planet. You think they don't mess with their own? Again, both sides do it. Even if you want to narrow it down to "legal" gerrymandering. Anyone who insists that our elections have zero problems are being disingenuous.

Sure, but nobody here has said that. What you'll find here is people open to actual information that's verifiable and coming from outlets that still have journalistic integrity.

You're welcome to provide evidence for wrong doing in 2020. I mean, Trumps crack team couldn't do it, but maybe you can?
 
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BoomerD

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The United States meddles in every election of a leader in every single civilized country on this planet. You think they don't mess with their own? Again, both sides do it. Even if you want to narrow it down to "legal" gerrymandering. Anyone who insists that our elections have zero problems are being disingenuous.

Oh no...the dreaded "both sides" argument.
 
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The United States meddles in every election of a leader in every single civilized country on this planet. You think they don't mess with their own? Again, both sides do it. Even if you want to narrow it down to "legal" gerrymandering. Anyone who insists that our elections have zero problems are being disingenuous.
LOL! Show me on the electoral map where the dems hurt you. Centrist my wide white ass.
 

HomerJS

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I personally consider it literal rape.

She couldn't say no. This isn't even like, a boss demands a blowie maybe you lose a job. It's the literal President of the United States. If the President tells you to suck a dick, you're sucking that dick. Or else constantly looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life.

What she did say, and it's absolutely correct, is that the power dynamic of the President is so massive that she felt like she had no choice. He held a figurative gun to her head, and raped that poor college girl.
You missed the part where she came on to him first. Yes, there was a power imbalance but that is in no way anything close to rape. When she flashed her thong, he should have had her transferred.

Are you attempting to equate this to pussy grabbing? That's real assault.
 

HomerJS

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I am a centrist. And personally, I think if you have a grievance with the government, protesting at a govt building makes a lot more sense than looting Nike's and Neiman Marcus'. Burning down and looting small business in your community. Hell burn down a police station, would make more sense than the methods the stauch leftists use to "protest"
You are a piece of work. Attempting to excuse an attempted overthrow of the government by equating stealing shoes from Nike? That is pure right-wing Fox News propaganda. Did you miss the cops getting their asses beaten or the vandalism of the capital or threating the life of the VP? I guess those pipe bombs found at the scene were for celebratory fireworks after Trump was installed back into office.

Stop the pretense, you are a complete right wing propaganda tool.

Question for you, was the 2020 election stolen?
 

Zorba

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I personally consider it literal rape.

She couldn't say no. This isn't even like, a boss demands a blowie maybe you lose a job. It's the literal President of the United States. If the President tells you to suck a dick, you're sucking that dick. Or else constantly looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life.

What she did say, and it's absolutely correct, is that the power dynamic of the President is so massive that she felt like she had no choice. He held a figurative gun to her head, and raped that poor college girl.
I've heard her talk about it multiple times, and you are spinning it completely different than she does.

The law pretty much only considers power dynamic for age of consent/statutory rape, which obviously doesn't apply here. Unless that power dynamic was directly and obviously used to force sexual activity, which she has never claimed happened.
 

outriding

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You are a piece of work. Attempting to excuse an attempted overthrow of the government by equating stealing shoes from Nike? That is pure right-wing Fox News propaganda. Did you miss the cops getting their asses beaten or the vandalism of the capital or threating the life of the VP? I guess those pipe bombs found at the scene were for celebratory fireworks after Trump was installed back into office.

Stop the pretense, you are a complete right wing propaganda tool.

Question for you, was the 2020 election stolen?
Sorry going to have to correct you….


Cops were murdered.

Anyone who entered the house (as far as I can see it) should be tried as an accessory to murder
 
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Zorba

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Every President has the right to contest the election. There were some arguably very bad things happening leading up to that election. Note that BOTH sides do shady as shit things during elections, but this one in particular was problematic. I honor the results of an honest election, I definitely don't think Trump won or Biden outright stole it. But it was definitely not some clear cut thing.
Shady things:
Lefties: Lets make it easy for people to vote by mail by putting in drop boxes.
Righties: Let's hang the VP for not throwing out the election.

Also please show where in Article 2 it gives the president the right to contest the election.
 

Zorba

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The United States meddles in every election of a leader in every single civilized country on this planet. You think they don't mess with their own? Again, both sides do it. Even if you want to narrow it down to "legal" gerrymandering. Anyone who insists that our elections have zero problems are being disingenuous.
So the people in power meddled with the election to elect the team not in power? Maybe they were too incompetent to stay in power then.
 

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So the people in power meddled with the election to elect the team not in power? Maybe they were too incompetent to stay in power then.


I can't stand trump as a person. He's obnoxious, entitled, egotistical. But the "people in power" hated trump. He couldn't be bought. He made some decisions I didn't agree with, but they at least were not a result of big money lobbyists, of family being employee by foreign borderline adversaries. His decisions were his - right or wrong.
 

brycejones

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I can't stand trump as a person. He's obnoxious, entitled, egotistical. But the "people in power" hated trump. He couldn't be bought. He made some decisions I didn't agree with, but they at least were not a result of big money lobbyists, of family being employee by foreign borderline adversaries. His decisions were his - right or wrong.
Well except for the money he made from foreign governments through his hotel or the special benefits his family received from the Chinese government for starters……
 

ivwshane

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lol centrist to full blown maga in 7 pages. Not a record by any stretch but certainly not a surprise.

Could you imagine living such a life that you’d have to pretend to be something you are not because reality is too difficult for you?
 

IronWing

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Every President has the right to contest the election. There were some arguably very bad things happening leading up to that election. Note that BOTH sides do shady as shit things during elections, but this one in particular was problematic. I honor the results of an honest election, I definitely don't think Trump won or Biden outright stole it. But it was definitely not some clear cut thing.
<plonk goes the centrist>
 
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Shady things:
Lefties: Lets make it easy for people to vote by mail by putting in drop boxes.
Righties: Let's hang the VP for not throwing out the election.

Also please show where in Article 2 it gives the president the right to contest the election.
Exactly. I cringe when I hear stuff like on one side we have AOC on the other we have Marjorie Green….
No it’s not that simple the extreme of one side AOC is for free or low cost healthcare for all, everyone who works having the right to a dignified retirement are her core things.
Marge is somewhere out in the stratosphere, we don’t even truely know what she’s for. We know she has spoken about Jewish Space Lasers starting fires and Bizzaro child molestation cults on a secret island that’s not listed on any map.

I refuse to accept those are opposite position. One is based in reality the other is based on reading utter bullshit.
 

ivwshane

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lol @ “he couldn’t be bought”! Almost as funny as saying the people he put into power hated him.


I have to hand it to you pumpkinspice, props on your trolling! I can’t lie, you had me for 3 pages.
 
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Well except for the money he made from foreign governments through his hotel or the special benefits his family received from the Chinese government for starters……
Or the $2B “investment” from Saudi Arabia to Jared Kushner that only stays in the fund if Trump is re-elected

Hurr durr no foreign interference or bribery, his decisions are his own. What a fucking clown this new troll is.
 
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