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E equals MC2

Banned
Apr 16, 2006
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+.67. Now what the hell does that mean? The interpretation of a result is pretty piss poor. I'm leaning far towards Harmonic (1) rather than Fundamental (-1). Most of the sounds you can interpret it both ways as rising or falling but I chose the first impression I got as instructed.
 
Oct 4, 2004
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WTH? I got -0.75

Does that mean I'm tone-deaf or something?
Seriously, what does this mean? Is there a line graph that goes from tone-god to tone-deaf?
 

sobriquet

Senior member
Sep 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
WTH? I got -0.75

Does that mean I'm tone-deaf or something?
Seriously, what does this mean? Is there a line graph that goes from tone-god to tone-deaf?

No, it simply means that your ear tends to pick the lowest frequency present in a tone as the identity of that tone. The poll seems to indicate that this is the dominant behavior, which makes a lot of sense to me.

It's pretty misleading that fundamental perception is labeled -1 and harmonic perception +1, just because of the implication that positive is a higher score. Again, there is no right or wrong answer.
 

sobriquet

Senior member
Sep 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: E equals MC2
+.67. Now what the hell does that mean? The interpretation of a result is pretty piss poor. I'm leaning far towards Harmonic (1) rather than Fundamental (-1). Most of the sounds you can interpret it both ways as rising or falling but I chose the first impression I got as instructed.

According to the AV123 thread, the preference toward fundamental or harmonic influences one's listening tastes. People were suggesting that the fundamental preference leads to a taste for shorter and more basic sounds, while the harmonic preference means a taste for longer and richer tones.

Someone even had the (to me, somewhat hard to swallow) idea that audiophiles are more likely to have a harmonic preference, as they are the ones that spend absurd amounts of money on gear that can accurately reproduce the full spectrum of sound in a recording. This is pretty bogus to me, as I can give myself a +1 score just by listening to the upper end of the spectrum, even on my cheap computer speakers.

One thing that's strange to me is that, in musical listening, the fundamental is the "right" pitch. Perhaps harmonic preference leads to a greater degree of differentiation between timbres. Any thoughts?
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
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I got them all, but I'm a musician.

I could even tell what notes they were playing :)
 

sobriquet

Senior member
Sep 10, 2002
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Originally posted by: Fritzo
I got them all, but I'm a musician.

I could even tell what notes they were playing :)

Got them all what? Fundamental or harmonic? My assumption is that, as a musician, you have a fundamental preference (at least that's the case with me). How easy or difficult is it for you to switch your listening to the other preference? I'm able to switch and hear the harmonics more strongly, but it feels strange - my first instinct is always the fundamental.
 
Oct 4, 2004
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Originally posted by: sobriquet
Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
WTH? I got -0.75

Does that mean I'm tone-deaf or something?
Seriously, what does this mean? Is there a line graph that goes from tone-god to tone-deaf?

No, it simply means that your ear tends to pick the lowest frequency present in a tone as the identity of that tone. The poll seems to indicate that this is the dominant behavior, which makes a lot of sense to me.

It's pretty misleading that fundamental perception is labeled -1 and harmonic perception +1, just because of the implication that positive is a higher score. Again, there is no right or wrong answer.

Hey, thanks for explaining that real well! I didn't read through the other responses well before. Although I will say, mobobuff's grading system threw me off a little bit!
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
Aug 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: spidey07
marked so that I can put it on a CD or something and give it a go.

Don't have anything to try it now?

Waiting to play it on the real system? ;)
 

Jeff7

Lifer
Jan 4, 2001
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Test #1 - figuring out the directions
Test #2 - figuring out the scoring


Final results: (6 - 6)/12, for a score of 0/12.


And darn it, these aren't single tones. They are 2-4 discrete tones mixed together. Darn harmonics.


My perceptions:
1. falling

2. rising

3. rising

4. falling

5. falling

6. falling

7. rising

8. falling

9. rising

10. falling

11. rising

12. rising
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: spidey07
marked so that I can put it on a CD or something and give it a go.

Don't have anything to try it now?

Waiting to play it on the real system? ;)

I quickly played it on my computer. Could barely make out the individual notes. Yep, wanna play it on the real system.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Moderator<br>A/V & Home Theater<br>Elite member
Aug 6, 2001
31,205
45
91
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: spidey07
marked so that I can put it on a CD or something and give it a go.

Don't have anything to try it now?

Waiting to play it on the real system? ;)

I quickly played it on my computer. Could barely make out the individual notes. Yep, wanna play it on the real system.

:D