Terrell Owens now an Eagle

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TheNinja

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: Staley8

Ok, maybe he was rightfully owed this money, maybe he was not (I still don't think he was). The point is he cried and whined like a "toodler" and a "three yeard old in a toy store". He could have handled it without being an annoying little chump. Another point is that this isn't the first time he's thrown a tantrum or acted like an ass. It'd be one thing if a guy like Marshall Faulk (or another well respected and respectable player) had a contract dispute, then people would side with him. But when you pull all kinds of stupid stunts and basically everyone on your team and in your locker room hates you b/c you are a baby and you piss and moan at your QB and your O-coordinator b/c you aren't winning, then this just adds another black mark on your record. So don't be surprised when all the fans and the media hate you and rip on you when they get the chance.....you reap what you sow TO.
Not to nitpick or anything, but it's "toddler" and "year". It isn't that hard to proofread a post once.

I don't see where u think he wasn't rightfully a Free Agent and owed a new contract? His contract with San Fran said he was to be a Free Agent by March 2nd, NOT Feb 21st (where the NFL had changed the overall date throughout the league). The NFL KNEW that they would lose in arbitration, b/c the court would have ruled that TO's contract with SF would supersede the NFL's altered date. The NFL knew this, which is why they originally said that it was a legal deal to Baltimore and now reneged on that previous ruling. Everyone said TO didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of becoming a FA, yet nobody was smart enough to look at the fine print of TO's contract with SF. It was clearly obvious that SF was trying to f TO by dealing him to the Ravens while still in negotiations with the Eagles at the same time, and they didn't even allow Philly to counter offer the Baltimore deal. IMO universal justice has been served, and whether TO whines or cries or whatever is yet to be seen, and in the least Philly has significantly upgraded their offense.

Fine, so I dno't proofraed evry poster I makek, point is that he has a reputation (and rightfully so) as being an asshat that nobody around him likes. He's a clubhouse cancer and alienates himself from teammates, coaches, and the media when things don't go his way. Therefore when people hear that TO is in the news again complaining about something, it irrates them b/c he's always whinning about something and this is just another thing that he is pissing and moaning about. They only thing people hate worse than whiney babies are rich cocky whiney babies.
 

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: anxi80
eagles were originally trying to give the niners james trash for t.o., correct?

They offered thrash and the 5th round pick (that went to Balt now)... The niners rejected that deal, hence Philly gets to now keep Thrash!!!!! Who got PUNK'D today (hint: starts with S and ends with an O). SF could have milked Philly but instead played hardball... u get what u deserve for trying to rip off TO, to reiterate: PUNK'D!

SF picked up a decent DL, a draft pick and got rid of a locker room cancer. I think SF made out on the deal.

Hm...I think SF only got the DL. The draft pick they got from Baltimore goes back to the Ravens.

...I'm so sick of York ruining the Niners....
 

miniMUNCH

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Originally posted by: diamondgoat53
Originally posted by: pcmodem
Yo,
As an old 49ers fan, I've watched Owens since he was a rookie.

Yeah, he's a whining superstar that has done some strange things on the field (sharpie pen, pom pom dance, spiking the Dallas star, push-ups). But he's also quietly done more personal-appearance charity work than any other professional athlete in the Bay Area the last few years.

One thing is certain: Terrell is NOT the player he was a few years ago. Ever since he got clobbered in the Ram's game a few seasons back, he is no longer the fearless force across the middle. He dropped a lot of balls in 2002 and 2003 and alligator-armed a lot of passes thrown to him, which resulted in incompletions. The old Terrell owens would use his superior strength and jumping ability to "rebound" footballs tossed his way, savaging smaller defensive backs with his shoulders or a good stiff-arm.

Terrell is also now THIRTY (30) years old.

I'll miss Terrell, even with his flaws. The 49er's are doomed under the John York / Denise Debarto-York ownership.



Hut hut HIKE!
-PCM

Yeah, after Aeneas Williams blew him up he's never been the same. Even before then, when he caught a big ball he was so surprised he cried on the sideline. All you Iggles fans remember this, you have the least accurate QB available, and now the WR that drops the most balls. Not exactly a match made in heaven. Good luck.


Another nasty article on TO on espn.com

Slop...

You know, people were saying the same thing about Randy Moss two years ago...what a bitch, what a head case.

I say whatever, the 49ners have gone from one of the best franchise's to play for in any sport to possibly one of the worst (I am a die hard 9ner's fan by the way but their current management makes me sick).

Let's be completely fair, it was just last season (2002-03) that TO (at age 29) had huge numbers and made catches that belong on larry fitz's highlight reel.

And think of it from TO's perspective...he started in this league catching passes from Steve Young and now he has the joy of getting missed on pass routes and often hung out to dry (i.e. setup of big hits) by Jeff Garcia, who is extremely overrated in my opinion (he has very poor field vision). Management is horrible is SFO and the offense is in the toliet...he wanted out bad for the last two seasons.

And he, and his agent were right about his contract as others have mentioned, his contract stated dates for voiding it, which supercede the league's date.

Also...it may be small change...but he took a pay cut from his original deal with the eagles to clear up this mess. His deal is worth around 42 mil for 6 years instead of about 40 million for 5 years ffrom what I understand.

I think, unlike the bitter SF columnist, that TO will rebound wonderfully with Philly regardless of how much he gets the ball (not that that will be a problem).

And on the topic of TO being scared about going across the middle...I played WR in highschool and took some incredible shots, they never bugged me once the bells stopped ringing. I doubt TO remembers that shot with fear (I'm sure he remembers...just doesn't care...and I saw that hit too, it was pretty good). I think he just lost faith in Garcia and 49ner cause in general.
 

miniMUNCH

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Also...I can't believe how many members here just take what the media puts up as gospel.

TO press statements were very respectful and calm...concerning the contract dispute his press release basically said, "my agent didn't make a mistake; we believe I have the right to void my contract under the language of the contract. I want to play for Philly no disrespect to the Ravens organization."

Accordly he didn't show up for the physical then he re iterated his point and stated if the trade is ultimately upheld he'd play for the ravens and let the water go the under the bridge.

If you read around the net for actual full scripts of conversations rather than some columnist redition...you'd see two things: TO has behaved like a reasonable person in this ordeal and (2) there are a lot of columnists who are butchering his words to make him look like a spoiled brat.

Even going back to his celebrations with the sharpie, the cowboy star...don't fault the guy for imagination. Play football and listen to what goes on between linemen, etc. and you'll know TO's stuff is nothing. Players threaten one another with intentional bodily injury...I had numerous CB in HS tell me they were going to gun for knees [to blow them out], crush my throat, etc.

IMO, that's the crap that shouldn't be allowed and should be condemned by media.
 

SP33Demon

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miniMunch, people will always hate on the great ones... TO is the best receiver in the game right now so of course people are jealous, especially when he acts cocky. His personality is to show you that he's the best and flaunt it. Hate him or love him, he's still the best receiver in the game.
 

flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
TO has behaved like a reasonable person in this ordeal and

Comparing yourself to Rosa Parks because your agent is a fvcking imbecile does not fall under behaving like a reasonable person. Just be honest and admit it; TO has no grasp on reality at all. He's the last person in this country that you could ever accuse of being reasonable.
 

Flyermax2k3

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon


McNabb is the most dangerous QB in the league besides Micheal Vick when on the run. When he was on the run last season, he had a rating of 103% from November to December... Not accurate? Lmao, the only reason his whole season rating wasn't high was because of James Trash and Rinky Dinkston dropping so many passes (Philly was LAST IN RECEIVING LAST YEAR). Maybe you remember the 4th and 26 pass to Freddie Mitchell against Green Bay? It was right on the money when it counted. You can say what u want about McNabb, but everyone knows he is the total package of rushing, arm strength, accuracy... now with TO in the mix *shudder*, think about what kind of numbers he'll put up this year...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Man, you Philadelphia fans crack me up...
Thanks for the laugh, SP33Demon ;)
Oh, and just for the record: Donovan McNabb has a 57.0% career completion percentage. Not exactly "deadly" accurate now ;) McNabb sucks and so do the Eagles. I hope you Philadelphia fans don't burn your city down when they choke in the playoffs again this year (giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming the make it).
Rush Limbaugh was right when he criticized McNabb as just an overrated, overhyped black QB (I'm not saying black men cannot be good QBs, simply that McNabb isn't as good as all the hype). He's a good scrambler, but he ain't no Joe Montana ;)
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: SP33Demon


McNabb is the most dangerous QB in the league besides Micheal Vick when on the run. When he was on the run last season, he had a rating of 103% from November to December... Not accurate? Lmao, the only reason his whole season rating wasn't high was because of James Trash and Rinky Dinkston dropping so many passes (Philly was LAST IN RECEIVING LAST YEAR). Maybe you remember the 4th and 26 pass to Freddie Mitchell against Green Bay? It was right on the money when it counted. You can say what u want about McNabb, but everyone knows he is the total package of rushing, arm strength, accuracy... now with TO in the mix *shudder*, think about what kind of numbers he'll put up this year...

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Man, you Philadelphia fans crack me up...
Thanks for the laugh, SP33Demon ;)
Oh, and just for the record: Donovan McNabb has a 57.0% career completion percentage. Not exactly "deadly" accurate now ;) McNabb sucks and so do the Eagles. I hope you Philadelphia fans don't burn your city down when they choke in the playoffs again this year (giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming the make it).
Rush Limbaugh was right when he criticized McNabb as just an overrated, overhyped black QB (I'm not saying black men cannot be good QBs, simply that McNabb isn't as good as all the hype). He's a good scrambler, but he ain't no Joe Montana ;)

First off, you have to put the crack pipe down: Name an above average receiver that McNabb has had to throw to in the past 5 years... didn't think so! Furthermore, Peyton Manning has a career completion % of 62.9 (5.9% higher) WITH MARVIN HARRISON. Your stat of career completion % is worthless, give Peyton James Trash and Rinky Dinkston to throw to and his would be under 60% guaranteed. McNair's career % 59.2. Micheal Vick's is 52.2%, does he suck? Give McNabb Marvin Harrison and he's over 60%, guaranteed.

That's the problem with people who think they know sports, they just spout off stats like they have half a clue of what they're talking about.