Temperature: Whose card runs cooler, NVIDIA or ATI?

[GaiaHunter]

Do they make stock 675 core EVGA cards?
I think 720 core is the NEW Evga stock speed. My bad you right mabe the temp would rise 2c. I really didn't notice.

The 6850 still runs hotter then the gtx460.

And the TDP is not MUCH lower for the 6850. Its about 11 watts.

So you just decided to ignore the TDP measurements of AT from the exactly same review where your temperature figures came from?

Well lets get the PCperspective ones then

Doesn't seem to be 11W,

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=1022&type=expert&pid=13

Temperatures are tricky because they depend a lot on the cooling solution at work with each GPU but can still provide an interesting data point. For instance, the new HD 6870 runs about 10 degrees C hotter than the HD 5850 and the reference GTX 460 1GB card easily becoming the "hottest" card in this segment. The HD 6850 doesn't fare much better as it runs hotter than anything else we compared it to.

Obviously the HD 6850 chip is running cooler than the HD 6870 chip but AMD's cooling solution choices are keeping them at the same level.

 

[happy medium]

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/GPU/EVGA-GTX-460-SC-EE/EVGA-GTX-460-SC-EE-77.jpg

It does help with case temps , so its even cooler then a stock Gtx460.
And thats with a SSC evga card, did I make my point?

 

[happy medium]

So you just decided to ignore the TDP measurements of AT from the exactly same review where your temperature figures came from?

Well lets get the PCperspective ones then

is there any real reason for your post, give me links to a cooler running card or STFU. easy as that.

Stop twisting it around and put up.

 

[calvin0416]

I am convinced, I will get a GTX 460 with exhaust in the back. Thanks y'all

 

[happy medium]

I am convinced, I will get a GTX 460 with exhaust in the back. Thanks y'all

Good choice my friend and the right one.:thumbsup:

 

[GaiaHunter]

is there any real reason for your post, give me links to a cooler running card or STFU. easy as that.

Stop twisting it around and put up.

You don't know what thermodynamics is do you?

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1109&page=16

 

[happy medium]

You don't know what thermodynamics is do you?

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1109&page=16

Thats a furmark test and TOTALLY IRRELEVENT. Real reviewers don't even use it anymore.
try again. :whiste:

 

[GaiaHunter]

You are funny.

 

[happy medium]

You are funny.

I dont think the OP plays 3d mark in loops either.
:whiste:

He bought the dam 460 give up.

 

[busydude]

He bought the dam 460 give up.

He would be, for sure, disappointed.. cos I am certain that he cannot reciprocate those temps with his setup. You do spin the facts pretty well and your obsession with 460 is clearly evident.

 

[GaiaHunter]

I dont think the OP plays 3d mark in loops either.
:whiste:

He bought the dam 460 give up.

I'm not trying to sell one card over the other.

I'm just tired of people not understanding the difference between heat and temperature.

And this 6850 in my box runs quite "cooler" than most other 6850, but you know something - it still generates the exact same heat.

The temperature only becomes relevant when it approach the limit the card can sustain before getting damaged - that is why most reviewers test worst case scenarios like furmark.

 

[badb0y]

The EVGA GTX 460 EE has one of the noisiest coolers I dealt with, the XFX 6950 in my rig now is quieter than that. Other than the cooler (EVGA External Exhaust), the card is fantastic.

Also to clarify to happy_medium what Gaia and Skurge are talking about is basically this. The GTX 460 might very well have a better cooler on it to keep the GPU cooler but that doesn't mean that the card is producing less heat, it is just doing a better job of cooling the GPU. Hope I helped somewhat.

 

[happy medium]

cos I am certain that he cannot reciprocate those temps with his setup. You do spin the facts pretty well and your obsession with 460 is clearly evident.

And I'm sure I can't either in my case, and?

The fact is the gtx460 EE IS the cooler running card and will be in his computer case.
Notice I said EE version guys EE version, got it now.

@ badboy ,let me clarify, I read review,if the temps say 40 ,i say 40, when the gtx480 was 95c , I said 95c. I don't care to hear a bunch of 6850 fanboys in a forum telling me about a few watts different in TDP under furmark or 3d mark in a loop.

Anand's site test with a freaking game, Crysis, and if the card ran cooler , I'm gonna tell the OP the cards cooler. I'm not gonna confuse some noob about TDP and heat dissapation just to outdo another member.

If I really thought the OP would have been better off with a 6850 for the money ,I would have suggested it.
Gaia and Skurge can say what they want and you can back em, I don't give a dam.

I stand by what I recommend, simple as that.

 

[happy medium]

And before you say the card is loud. A gtx480 is loud , a 4890 is loud, a gtx470 can be loud.

Just because a card is asmall amount louder then a silent card , does not make it loud.
The gtx460 EE is louder then the silent stock gtx460, but is in no way LOUD.

 

[badb0y]

And I'm sure I can't either in my case, and?

The fact is the gtx460 EE IS the cooler running card and will be in his computer case.
Notice I said EE version guys EE version, got it now.

@ badboy ,let me clarify, I read review,if the temps say 40 ,i say 40, when the gtx480 was 95c , I said 95c. I don't care to hear a bunch of 6850 fanboys in a forum telling me about a few watts different in TDP under furmark or 3d mark in a loop.

Anand's site test with a freaking game, Crysis, and if the card ran cooler , I'm gonna tell the OP the cards cooler. I'm not gonna confuse some noob about TDP and heat dissapation just to outdo another member.

If I really thought the OP would have been better off with a 6850 for the money ,I would have suggested it.
Gaia and Skurge can say what they want and you can back em, I don't give a dam.

I stand by what I recommend, simple as that.

Wow, you need to calm down buddy, people are just pointing to the fallacy in your argument. Another example is a GTX 480 with and Arctic Cooler is a cooler running card than a HD 5870, the temperature on the GTX 480 will probably lower than the the temperature on the HD 5870, so we must conclude that the 5870 is a "hotter" card which is wrong because the GTX 480 is still producing that heat but the cooler is doing a better job of dissipating it away from the card.

Similar situation, different cards, although I may agree that the disparity between the GTX 480 and HD 5870 was larger my point still stands. Good night .

 

[happy medium]

Wow, you need to calm down buddy, people are just pointing to the fallacy in your argument. Another example is a GTX 480 with and Arctic Cooler is a cooler running card than a HD 5870, the temperature on the GTX 480 will probably lower than the the temperature on the HD 5870, so we must conclude that the 5870 is a "hotter" card which is wrong because the GTX 480 is still producing that heat but the cooler is doing a better job of dissipating it away from the card.

Similar situation, different cards, although I may agree that the disparity between the GTX 480 and HD 5870 was larger my point still stands. Good night .

And I would agree with you But and a big but, if the gtx480 threw 95% of that heat out of the case ,performed better ,and cost less, I would still recommend the gtx480, if power consumption was closer like that of the gtx460 and 6850, which it is.
Goodnight.

 

[calvin0416]

I think the important thing is it'll run cooler regardless of if it will produce more heat.

If the external exhaust will output most of the heat into my room instead of letting it stay inside my computer I'm happy.

Bottom line is, I don't want my computer to burn out.

Thank you all who give their thoughts.

 

[Rifter]

wow what a thread!

The 460 is cool running, you will be happy with your purchase.

EE is a good idea. and EVGA is a great company.

Im sure the 6850 would have been a good option as well you really couldnt go wrong with either.

 

[thescreensavers]

My my 6800gt ran preatty hot. The ram also did as well and it radiated in side the case a bit. My x2 idled. At 36c and on load 45c so all was ok.

 

[flexcore]

happy, i need to wash the car should i get a 460? maybe save the world while i'm at it if i get that card. wow

 

[Skurge]

I think the important thing is it'll run cooler regardless of if it will produce more heat.

If the external exhaust will output most of the heat into my room instead of letting it stay inside my computer I'm happy.

Bottom line is, I don't want my computer to burn out.

Thank you all who give their thoughts.

What are the rest of your specs?

and can you post a pic of your case? Cause I don't think any card would survive in the same place as where an X1650 would reach 100c.

See what the problem is happy? You call us Fanboys, but noone even recommended a card for the OP before trying to find out why his PC is already so hot in the 1st place.

Even if the card exhasuts heat outside the case, the air that is going to be sucking in from inside the case is going to be pretty hot and it wont matter how good the cooler is.

What CPU temps are you getting btw.

 

[Aristotelian]

And before you say the card is loud. A gtx480 is loud , a 4890 is loud, a gtx470 can be loud.

Just because a card is asmall amount louder then a silent card , does not make it loud.
The gtx460 EE is louder then the silent stock gtx460, but is in no way LOUD.

Silent? I've never said this before on this forum but 'lol'. You've reached a new high.


You are attacking the poster and making it personal rather than deftly presenting evidence to the contrary of the contents of the post in question.

Please reconsider your approach.

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[Zstream]

I am convinced, I will get a GTX 460 with exhaust in the back. Thanks y'all

Bad move! I came from a 4850 to a 460 and the extra heat is horrible. I would recommend something that would use less power and still exhaust the heat out.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

I think the important thing is it'll run cooler regardless of if it will produce more heat.

If the external exhaust will output most of the heat into my room instead of letting it stay inside my computer I'm happy.

Bottom line is, I don't want my computer to burn out.

Thank you all who give their thoughts.

Have fun with your purchase, be sure to post some scores and temps when you get it

Happy gaming :thumbsup:

 

[calvin0416]

What are the rest of your specs?

and can you post a pic of your case? Cause I don't think any card would survive in the same place as where an X1650 would reach 100c.

See what the problem is happy? You call us Fanboys, but noone even recommended a card for the OP before trying to find out why his PC is already so hot in the 1st place.

Even if the card exhasuts heat outside the case, the air that is going to be sucking in from inside the case is going to be pretty hot and it wont matter how good the cooler is.

What CPU temps are you getting btw.

The X1650 is on my old DELL. Right now it is at 75 deg just running Chrome lol
And I even set the fan to 70%.

I plan to use the 460 on a new hp pf6610. That one doesn't even have a GPU, only onboard integrated.