Temperature: Whose card runs cooler, NVIDIA or ATI?

[calvin0416]

As I don't have a cooler for my non custom built computer. Cards that runs hot is a big concern for me.

My old computer (ATI X1650) runs idle at 60 degree and 80 when I play games. Once I was playing the Witcher at higher than 1280 it went over 100 degrees and a system pop out message warns me that my card is getting unstable.


I'd like to know which of the current card (NVIDIA 400s 500s ATI HD 5000s/6000s) runs particularly cool?



(i don't play fps, mostly rpg/rts hopefully at 1920 or below)

 

[happy medium]

gtx 460 is the coolest running

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Get a card that exhausts out the rear of the case and you will minimize your heat issues. AMD cards have lower TDP, but as long as the card exhausts out the back you should be alright.

If you get a 460 that doesn't exhaust out the rear of the case (and there are several out there that don't) then it definitely will not be the coolest running... So take happy's advice with HUGE asterisk*.

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[WelshBloke]

Whichever draws the least power.

 

[thedosbox]

My old computer (ATI X1650) runs idle at 60 degree and 80 when I play games. Once I was playing the Witcher at higher than 1280 it went over 100 degrees and a system pop out message warns me that my card is getting unstable.

In which case, you have an airflow problem.

 

[GaiaHunter]

Temperature of the card running doesn't mean anything on its own - it is a function of the cooler and its ability to remove the heat generated by the power required to run the GPU from it.

If you have a bad airflow in your case you'll probably wish a card that doesn't consume much power, and so generates less heat, and it exhaust the hot air outside the case.

Heat has to go somewhere once it is produced - can stay on your GPU (incresing the GPU temperature), can be dropped inside your case (increasing your case temperature), can be dropped outside your case increasing the surroundings temperature (and your case to some degree since the air used to cool it is warmer).

 

[happy medium]

take happy's advice

This one, Evga gtx460 EE version for $180AR ,All the heat goes out the back.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130566

 

[Skurge]

The 460 uses more power than any of its competitors. AMD cards have lower TDP so you want one of those. Also, If you can get a X1650 to 100C, you need a new case before you even think of a more powerful card.

Or the fan on your current card isn't working or something like that.

 

[happy medium]

AMD cards have lower TDP

Wrong again, (you are on a roll today)

AMd cards have inferior coolers and thats why they run hotter. TDP does not matter when 100% of the air is blown outside the case, like the evga card I linked.

Look at the charts I linked.................glasses?

 

[Skurge]

This one, Evga gtx460 EE version for $180AR ,All the heat goes out the back.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130566

GPU temps mean nothing without power consumption figures. Are you saying that 2x 6950 (TDP 170-200W each) produce as much heat as 1 4870?

 

[happy medium]

Are you saying that 2x 6950 (TDP 170-200W each) produce as much heat as 1 4870?

No, Anandtech did. They know better then me.

Again the card I linked blows 100% of the hot air out the back. Whats the difference?
Power consumption? A gtx460 uses 11 more watts then a 6850 man, we have been over this a million times with Blastingcap.The cooler is just much better.

Edit" look at the gtx460 , where is it at? at the lowest point, I don't care about the 4870 or 6950x2.

 

[Skurge]

Wrong again, (you are on a roll today)

AMd cards have inferior coolers and thats why they run hotter.

Or they are quieter.

Which is something you can't say about that EVGA card you linked.

 

[Skurge]

No, Anandtech did. They know better then me.

Again the card I linked blows 100% of the hot air out the back. Whats the difference?
Power consumption? A gtx460 uses 11 more watts then a 6850 man, we have been over this a million times with Blastingcap.The cooler is just much better.

See that's where you are mistaken. They are as hot, but don't produce the same amount of heat. Don't mix the 2 up.

Also, I never made any mention of the 6850.

 

[happy medium]

See that's where you are mistaken. They are as hot, but don't produce the same amount of heat. Don't mix the 2 up.

Also, I never made any mention of the 6850.

ANd touche, I never mentioned a dual card 6950, 4870, and either did the OP.
He asked "what card runs the coolest". CARD singular, 5000,6000 gtx400,500 series!!!!!

The answer is plain and simple the gtx460, and especially one that exaust OUT THE BACK.

edit: and you know as well as I do the gtx470 and 480 are the louder cards, the noise levels of the card I mentioned is WELL within the boundries of loud.

done yet?

 

[Skurge]

ANd touche, I never mentioned a dual card 6950, 4870, and either did the OP.
He asked "what card runs the coolest". CARD singular, 5000,6000 gtx400,500 series!!!!!

The answer is plain and simple the gtx460, and especially one that exaust OUT THE BACK.

glasses?

The GTX460 in those charts is the reference one that doesn't exhaust hot outside the case.

If heat produced doesn't matter, why don't you just recommend a GTX480 for the OP then, it exhaust air out the back.

It doesn't matter what the GPU temp is, what matters is HOW MUCH HEAT THE CARD PRODUCES.

Do you also think a 460 would survive in his case that get an x1650 to over a 100c?

 

[happy medium]

The GTX460 in those charts is the reference one that doesn't exhaust hot outside the case.

If heat produced doesn't matter, why don't you just recommend a GTX480 for the OP then, it exhaust air out the back.

It doesn't matter what the GPU temp is, what matters is HOW MUCH HEAT THE CARD PRODUCES.

Do you also think a 460 would survive in his case that get an x1650 to over a 100c?

The man asked a question, I gave him the right answer and backed it.

Man..................Do you read the rules, when your wrong you just admit it.

I made my point.

 

[happy medium]

Temperature of the card running doesn't mean anything on its own - it is a function of the cooler and its ability to remove the heat generated by the power required to run the GPU from it.

If you have a bad airflow in your case you'll probably wish a card that doesn't consume much power, and so generates less heat, and it exhaust the hot air outside the case.

See this is a good answer. post #6. = gtx460 EE edition

 

[Skurge]

The man asked a question, I gave him the right answer and backed it.

Man..................Do you read the rules, when your wrong you just admit it.

I made my point.

Your answer for every question is GTX460, clearly op as much bigger problems than which card runs cooler.

You backed one card with a different cards charts, that is misleading.

 

[GaiaHunter]

No, Anandtech did. They know better then me.

Again the card I linked blows 100% of the hot air out the back. Whats the difference?
Power consumption? A gtx460 uses 11 more watts then a 6850 man, we have been over this a million times with Blastingcap.The cooler is just much better.

Edit" look at the gtx460 , where is it at? at the lowest point, I don't care about the 4870 or 6950x2.

You mean it consumes as much as the 6950 not the 6850.

Of course those are the power consumptions of the GTX460 at standard clocks - funny how you go find temperatures and power consumptions of stock GTX460 but for performance you go pick factory OC models.

Again GPU temperature is a function of the cooler but that has nothing to do with heat produced.

Hey look a factory OCed 6850 with idle temperatures similar to the GTX460 on the AT tables.

 

[Skurge]

See this is a good answer. post #6. = gtx460 EE edition

Have any proof of THAT card running cooler than the others? Producing less heat? Anything?

 

[Daedalus685]

Temperature = Retention of heat

Heat created by the card = Power consumption

If you want the lowest temperature you either need a very low power GPU, or one with exceptional cooling. Exceptional cooling means it will be louder. There is no perfect solution and all high quality cards will find a different balance of noise, GPU temperature, cost, and heat production.

Be aware that even the best air cooling can be choked off by a bad case and high ambients.

I don't quite understand all the hoopla about temperatures provided they are within operating ranges, 100W is 100W regardless of the temperature of the GPU you need air flow that can move that heat.

You notice that most cards all have similar temperatures because the cooling is aimed to keep them at a certain value, a 5670 might be a touch warm not because it produces as much heat as a far more powerful card but because it doesn't dissipate nearly as much of the heat it creates with its smaller quieter cooling.

 

[happy medium]

Temperature = Retention of heat

Heat created by the card = Power consumption

If you want the lowest temperature you either need a very low power GPU, or one with exceptional cooling. Exceptional cooling means it will be louder. There is no perfect solution and all high quality cards will find a different balance of noise, GPU temperature, cost, and heat production.

Be aware that even the best air cooling can be choked off by a bad case and high ambients.

I don't quite understand all the hoopla about temperatures provided they are within operating ranges, 100W is 100W regardless of the temperature of the GPU you need air flow that can move that heat.

You notice that most cards all have similar temperatures because the cooling is aimed to keep them at a certain value, a 5670 might be a touch warm not because it produces as much heat as a far more powerful card but because it doesn't dissipate nearly as much of the heat it creates with its smaller quieter cooling.

Agreed.

 

[Skurge]

Temperature = Retention of heat

Heat created by the card = Power consumption

If you want the lowest temperature you either need a very low power GPU, or one with exceptional cooling. Exceptional cooling means it will be louder. There is no perfect solution and all high quality cards will find a different balance of noise, GPU temperature, cost, and heat production.

Be aware that even the best air cooling can be choked off by a bad case and high ambients.

I don't quite understand all the hoopla about temperatures provided they are within operating ranges, 100W is 100W regardless of the temperature of the GPU you need air flow that can move that heat.

You notice that most cards all have similar temperatures because the cooling is aimed to keep them at a certain value, a 5670 might be a touch warm not because it produces as much heat as a far more powerful card but because it doesn't dissipate nearly as much of the heat it creates with its smaller quieter cooling.

Thats what I've been saying, just not worded as well.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

This one, Evga gtx460 EE version for $180AR ,All the heat goes out the back.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130566

That's better, because a heck of a lot of 460s do not.

TDP does not matter when 100% of the air is blown outside the case, like the evga card I linked.

Actually, not quite. 100% does not go out the back. A lot does, but not 100%. The PCB heatsink shroud of the card will dissipate heat into the case, as well as any inefficiencies in the airflow of the actual cooler. So even a lower TDP card, like the 6850 which is much lower than a 460 (let alone an overclocked one) can help his temps.

 

[happy medium]

(let alone an overclocked one)

Do they make stock 675 core EVGA cards?
I think 720 core is the NEW Evga stock speed. My bad you right mabe the temp would rise 2c. I really didn't notice.

The 6850 still runs hotter then the gtx460.

And the TDP is not MUCH lower for the 6850. Its about 11 watts.

Stock cards.