News Teens in Make America Great Again hats taunted a Native American elder at the Lincoln Memorial

[s0me0nesmind1]

And here we go back yet again to the old both sides are shitty which makes one side worse argument. Yay!

And for the record, I do not care what any celebrities say or said.

The fact that you can't come to any general agreement here just shows how hard-headed retarded you are. You lost. The kids as a whole weren't bad. They don't deserve to be dox'd or expelled. End of story. The fact that folks like you are still here arguing shows you're still in retard mode.

 

[soundforbjt]

That clip was only 8 seconds. Do you have the entire video so we can see the entire story?

But... this video doesn't capture what came before: the boys being provoked by women who would not respond favorably to their cat calls. There's context!

From the twitter link.

 

[dainthomas]

What does that mean?

Nothing. Similar to Cold War vet.

 

[Lanyap]

More of the innocent misunderstood children.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1087733862283776003

6 second clip. Where is the rest of the video so we can see the whole story.

 

[Blackjack200]

No one is saying the kids did nothing wrong. No one. Name any post here. Everyone universally agrees that they look like smug dickheads - which is rather somewhat normal for pre-teen boys that are obviously due for hitting some kind of puberty

The fact that you can't come to any general agreement here just shows how hard-headed retarded you are. You lost. The kids as a whole weren't bad. They don't deserve to be dox'd or expelled. End of story. The fact that folks like you are still here arguing shows you're still in retard mode.

Wow. LMAO.

 

[Vic]

The fact that you can't come to any general agreement here just shows how hard-headed retarded you are. You lost. The kids as a whole weren't bad. They don't deserve to be dox'd or expelled. End of story. The fact that folks like you are still here arguing shows you're still in retard mode.

The fact that you believe there are winners and losers here, or that this is all about winning and losing shows who's the retard.

 

[JSt0rm]

6 second clip. Where is the rest of the video so we can see the whole story.

white people are the real victims.

 

[realibrad]

Was this posted here? It was in OT.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/tech/twitter-suspends-account-native-american-maga-teens/index.html

Twitter suspended an account on Monday afternoon that helped spread a controversial encounter between a Native American elder and a group of high school students wearing Make America Great Again hats.

The account claimed to belong to a California schoolteacher. Its profile photo was not of a schoolteacher, but of a blogger based in Brazil, CNN Business found. Twitter suspended the account soon after CNN Business asked about it.

The account, with the username @2020fight, was set up in December 2016 and appeared to be the tweets of a woman named Talia living in California. "Teacher & Advocate. Fighting for 2020," its Twitter bio read. Since the beginning of this year, the account had tweeted on average 130 times a day and had more than 40,000 followers.

Late on Friday, the account posted a minute-long video showing the now-iconic confrontation between a Native American elder and the high school students, with the caption, "This MAGA loser gleefully bothering a Native American protester at the Indigenous Peoples March."

 

[HurleyBird]

Whataboutism.

The kids in the “ZOMG: Blackface!” picture were attending the school in 2012. They are not the people you saw at this rally. They would have graduated years ago.

I responded to something that deserved a response because it kept ignorantly persisting despite all indications (reality) pointing another way. Not sure why that obligates me to address or defend others for unrelated issues you are bringing up here. Your arguments there are stronger when you stop barking up the wrong tree about blackface from other students from the same school in 2012. It undermines his credibility if he continues to use that 2012 picture to argue for the degeneracy of the other kids you’re talking about here. If anything, I’m helping to steel his and your position on that matter.

No, that's not whataboutism. Seriously, everyone on the AT forums, conservatives and liberals alike, need to stop accusing people of doing this because apparently none of you know your fallacies.

Which isn't to say that, and of course I don't condone instances like "if they enjoy it," combing through these kid's and the school's history for transgressions after the original narrative turns out to be wrong, after these kids have been drug through the mud in front of the whole world for something they didn't do, just because some people can't stand to admit they got things wrong, is still pretty despicable. If you want to call this tactic anything, it would be closest to goalpost moving.

 

[soundforbjt]

No, that's not whataboutism. Seriously, everyone on the AT forums, conservatives and liberals alike, need to stop accusing people of doing this because apparently none of you know your fallacies.

Which isn't to say that, and of course I don't condone instances like "if they enjoy it," combing through these kid's and the school's history for transgressions after the original narrative turns out to be wrong, after these kids have been drug through the mud in front of the whole world for something they didn't do, just because some people can't stand to admit they got things wrong, is still pretty despicable. If you want to call this tactic anything, it would be closest to goalpost moving.

So, there weren't disrespecting the Native American by doing the tomahawk chop?

 

[senseamp]

I hope top universities blacklist this school. That cesspool will get cleaned out very quick once its seen as a dead end.

 

[realibrad]

So, there weren't disrespecting the Native American by doing the tomahawk chop?

The kids were accused of going up to the Indian guy and harassing him. That turned out to not be true given the video evidence showing that it was the Indian guy that went up to the kids.

The kids were taunting by doing the tomahawk chop to mock him after he came up to them. That is offensive, but, his group was more offensive. The video shows the Indian group taunting the kids and saying antagonizing things to the kids.

We have full grown adults harassing kids, and we are blaming the kids more than the adults.

 

[realibrad]

I hope top universities blacklist this school. That cesspool will get cleaned out very quick once its seen as a dead end.

What is it that you think happened here?

Twitter account that first shared the edited video has been suspended for the video being misleading. Indian guy shown to have misrepresented what happened. Worst thing that we have seen is the tomahawk chop.

You want to blacklist these kids because of that?

 

[dainthomas]

I hope top universities blacklist this school. That cesspool will get cleaned out very quick once its seen as a dead end.

These smirking clowns will be lucky to find a trucking school that will take them. No admissions board is going to chance the giant PR nightmare for one prep school d-bag.

 

[Majes]

These smirking clowns will be lucky to find a trucking school that will take them. No admissions board is going to chance the giant PR nightmare for one prep school d-bag.

Since they handled a tough situation admirably I think a lot of places will be interested in them.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

What is it that you think happened here?

Twitter account that first shared the edited video has been suspended for the video being misleading. Indian guy shown to have misrepresented what happened. Worst thing that we have seen is the tomahawk chop.

You want to blacklist these kids because of that?

Actually they were suspended for creating an apparent fake account, nothing to do with the video.

 

[Blackjack200]

The kids were accused of going up to the Indian guy and harassing him. That turned out to not be true given the video evidence showing that it was the Indian guy that went up to the kids.

The kids were taunting by doing the tomahawk chop to mock him after he came up to them. That is offensive, but, his group was more offensive. The video shows the Indian group taunting the kids and saying antagonizing things to the kids.

We have full grown adults harassing kids, and we are blaming the kids more than the adults.

WHAT?

 

[Blackjack200]

These smirking clowns will be lucky to find a trucking school that will take them. No admissions board is going to chance the giant PR nightmare for one prep school d-bag.

Yeah, they'll pay a heavy price for their chauvinism just like Bret Kavanagh did.

 

[realibrad]

WHAT?

Did you watch the full video? The one where they tell the kids they stole the land from the? Where they said they had been there for a million years, and the white man had only been there for a few generations and should leave?

 

[dainthomas]

Since they handled a tough situation admirably I think a lot of places will be interested in them.

When I see rich white punks putting on maga hats and doing tomahawk chops and mocking dances at a native American elder, the first thing I think of is "Wow, what admirable behavior by those upstanding young men."

 

[realibrad]

Actually they were suspended for creating an apparent fake account, nothing to do with the video.

Hmmm

"Deliberate attempts to manipulate the public conversation on Twitter by using misleading account information is a violation of the Twitter Rules."

If it were just about a fake account, then what conversation was the twitter rep talking about?

 

[realibrad]

When I see rich white punks putting on maga hats and doing tomahawk chops and mocking dances at a native American elder, the first thing I think of is "Wow, what admirable behavior by those upstanding young men."

Is that what you think happened? Some rich white kids wearing MAGA hats went up to an Indian and started doing tomahawk chops to him?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Hmmm

"Deliberate attempts to manipulate the public conversation on Twitter by using misleading account information is a violation of the Twitter Rules."

If it were just about a fake account, then what conversation was the twitter rep talking about?

Any conversation. They looked at the account, the fake picture as well as the posting history in determining it should be suspended.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

Without defending anyone or attempting to reassign blame, I think this article provides interesting commentary on these video moments, how the narrative develops, and the degree to which intent and context eventually don't matter. Something to keep in mind.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...udents-and-native-americans-explained/580906/

 

[Majes]

When I see rich white punks putting on maga hats and doing tomahawk chops and mocking dances at a native American elder, the first thing I think of is "Wow, what admirable behavior by those upstanding young men."

When you're being insulted and yelled at and you respond with school cheers and then someone bangs a drum in your face unprompted and you don't escalate the situation you've done a pretty good job.