Teenager shot dead after playing loud music

[soundforbjt]

There's evidence of Davis verbally threatening to harm Dunn's life besides Dunn's account?

Not to mention there's three live witnesses from the Durango that will dispute Dunn's account. Unless there's a witness who comes forward (and there hasn't been so far) that agrees with Dunn's account, he is toast for murder 1.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Just for show or not one in the chamber.

Thugs think they can show a weapon to intimidate. They may not be prepared to fire. They use it for show and intimidation.

This is why you always carry ready to fire. The thug will need time to make his weapon ready and cock one like he sees in the movies so that he now means business.

And invisible, let's not forget that the weapon they dumped in an area that is absolutely known and was check there was an invisible shotgun.

They didn't have that or anything that looked like it in the car nor was it found in any place they drove.

I think this speaks against Dunn's story which now just seems made up.

I find it interesting that out of the three defending these things, all of you like to portray negroes as more violent per race but only one of you had the guts to attempt to find justification of that belief... I'm of course talking about the thread where the most retarded person on earth thought that a 15% increase in testosterone could explain why negroes as a race are violent.

Just to make this clear, normal test ratios are counted in elevations by 100%+ depending on when they are taken.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

If the teens are only 400 feet away from the scene they left in the adjacent parking lot strip mall, an ambulance could just as easily get there as it could the gas station. Driving back those 400 feet make no sense if you are waiting for an ambulance. And to go into the same spot they left from? Why not just stop at the edge of the parking lot for the gas station to make it easier for emergency crews to access them instead of a parking spot next to the building entrance.

Returning to the scene if innocent makes no sense, especially if they were already on the line with 911. Now if the 911 operator told them to return... that makes logical sense, but that is evidence we do not have at this point.

You're making sheit up in your head and believing it to be true.

Did you know that this a sign of schizophrenia?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

No, the area was not searched. The felon thug crew had one of their runners come get that gun before we even knew there was a shotgun, due to dunn's stupidly leaving without telling his side of the story.

I doubt we'll ever find that gun, but in my mind it really doesn't matter. There is simply no logical explanation whatsoever for them to leave, circle the parking lot, then return to the scene of their crime. I haven't heard any reasonable explanation for this.

 

[rh71]

has anyone's mind been changed in the course of this thread?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

has anyone's mind been changed in the course of this thread?

Even in the 'other thread' once all evidence comes out which continues to show who is guilty nobody changed their minds.


In this case, the only new evidence we've gotten is that eyewitness saw the crew leave the scene, circle a parking lot (not leave and stop, but specifically circle the parking lot) before returning to the scene.



I just can't imagine why you would circle a parking lot when one of your crew is in the back seat bleeding out.

 

[mugs]

No, the area was not searched. The felon thug crew had one of their runners come get that gun before we even knew there was a shotgun, due to dunn's stupidly leaving without telling his side of the story.

I doubt we'll ever find that gun, but in my mind it really doesn't matter. There is simply no logical explanation whatsoever for them to leave, circle the parking lot, then return to the scene of their crime. I haven't heard any reasonable explanation for this.

We've gone over that extensively. They left because Dunn was still shooting at them. If you want to claim that returning was suspicious, please explain why it is preferable for them to leave the gun so close to the crime scene, in view of witnesses, when they could have driven to a hospital and dumped it along the way in a place it was less likely to be found without arousing suspicion. They didn't know Dunn was going to pretend nothing happened; if they had a gun, they must have expected that Dunn would report it to the police and the area they drove to would be searched. Their actions make them appear innocent, not guilty.

Even in the 'other thread' once all evidence comes out which continues to show who is guilty nobody changed their minds.

I don't recall if I participated in that thread, but the initial information led me to believe that George Zimmerman committed a crime, and I now believe he did not.

In this case all of the information we have received has only made Dunn look more guilty. The only evidence of the kids' guilt is in Dunn's imagination (and yours, and the rest of your cross burning crew).

 

[soundforbjt]

In this case, the only new evidence we've gotten is that eyewitness saw the crew leave the scene, circle a parking lot (not leave and stop, but specifically circle the parking lot) before returning to the scene.

They left because the murderer was still firing shots at them (ballistics proves it). They DID stop and not just circle, looked at the damge, realized their friend was shot, and drove back to the scene and waited for police. Would you just sit there with some drunk maniac, thug shooting at you?



I just can't imagine why you would circle a parking lot when one of your crew is in the back seat bleeding out.
They didn't know their friend was shot UNTIL they stopped. Boy you're dense!

Bolded.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Ok let me get this straight...


4 guys, who run with thugs, are sitting in an SUV minding their own business.

Some older businessguy pulls up and unprovoked blasts off a magazine worth of rounds into their SUV.

They leave, because they are in fear of their life, yet go DIRECTLY to the parking lot next to where they're being attacked, then CIRCLE the parking lot before driving BACK to the gas station?

And from what I understand they never told the cops they left the scene???



Yea.... Right. You go ahead and get ready for another disappointment after the current trial. No way a jury of 6 is going to convict based on current facts.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Ok let me get this straight...


4 guys, who run with thugs, are sitting in an SUV minding their own business.

Some older businessguy pulls up and unprovoked blasts off a magazine worth of rounds into their SUV.

They leave, because they are in fear of their life, yet go DIRECTLY to the parking lot next to where they're being attacked, then CIRCLE the parking lot before driving BACK to the gas station?

And from what I understand they never told the cops they left the scene???

Yea.... Right. You go ahead and get ready for another disappointment after the current trial. No way a jury of 6 is going to convict based on current facts.

Wow, you live in a bizarro land. Yes, the 4 guys in the SUV were minding their own business. Dunn, who might have been intoxicated and has a history of confronting kids playing loud music, instigated the whole event.

Dunn didn't like being told to fuck-off, says you're not going to talk to me like that and proceeds to spray the vehicle with bullets. SUV backs out and gets out of there.

Dunn's gf jumps in car and take off, like most guilty people do. Never contacting the police the next day when he learned he killed someone and fled to his house to be caught.

Not a single witness backs up Dunn's story out of dozens of witnesses.

If the thugs had a gun, why wouldn't they just continue to drive off? More likely, they saw Dunn take off, pulled over to check the damage and learned that Davis had been shot. Went back to the 7-11 to wait for the ambulance

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Wow, you live in a bizarro land. Yes, the 4 guys in the SUV were minding their own business. Dunn, who might have been intoxicated and has a history of confronting kids playing loud music, instigated the whole event.

Dunn didn't like being told to fuck-off, says you're not going to talk to me like that and proceeds to spray the vehicle with bullets. SUV backs out and gets out of there.

Dunn's gf jumps in car and take off, like most guilty people do. Never contacting the police the next day when he learned he killed someone and fled to his house to be caught.

Not a single witness backs up Dunn's story out of dozens of witnesses.

If the thugs had a gun, why wouldn't they just continue to drive off? More likely, they saw Dunn take off, pulled over to check the damage and learned that Davis had been shot. Went back to the 7-11 to wait for the ambulance

ROFL do you truly believe that they didn't know someone was shot and bleeding out in a car of four people?


They came back because someone in their crew had a bullet in them.

They run with felons on probation, they knew they can't just show up at a hospital with a bullet wound.


Like I said, every aspect of their actions and behaviour shows that they dumped that gun.

 

[soundforbjt]

ROFL do you truly believe that they didn't know someone was shot and bleeding out in a car of four people?


They came back because someone in their crew had a bullet in them.

They run with felons on probation, they knew they can't just show up at a hospital with a bullet wound.


Like I said, every aspect of their actions and behaviour shows that they dumped that gun.

Then where is it? If it's not found, and it hasn't been so far, Dunn is done no matter how you emotionally feel about it.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

ROFL do you truly believe that they didn't know someone was shot and bleeding out in a car of four people?

that isn't instant knowledge; particularly when there's a high-stress situation, you may not know you are shot or be able to communicate it immediately.

the brain-drug is called norepinephrine and the phenomenon in question is stress-induced norepinephrine release.

Here's a write up:

http://europepmc.org/abstract/MED/7621982/reload=0;jsessionid=Rh4OHBDktBnLyNFUPr5I.6

Yea; so people being shot at don't make the best decisions, communicate very well, or overall think rationally like a normal person might.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Then where is it? If it's not found, and it hasn't been so far, Dunn is done no matter how you emotionally feel about it.

That gun was gone minutes after the incident. They ditch the gun, txt/call a crew member and have it picked up.


It only takes 1 person on the jury who knows how these thugs operate. The fact that they run with felons doesn't help this "oh my we're all innocent" schtick either.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

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Yea; so people being shot at don't make the best decisions, communicate very well, or overall think rationally like a normal person might.

Yeah I agree, part of why I can understand why dunn left the scene and didn't come back. Stupid decision but having a shotgun pointed at your face will do that to you.

 

[mugs]

Ok let me get this straight...

4 guys, who run with thugs, are sitting in an SUV minding their own business.

4 guys, one of whom had a non-violent felony conviction. Am I a thug because I have a friend who has non-violent felony conviction?

Some older businessguy pulls up and unprovoked blasts off a magazine worth of rounds into their SUV.

The "businessguy" is such a good "businessguy" that he's indigent and can't afford to pay for his lawyer. He also had several drinks according to his lady companion.

They leave, because they are in fear of their life, yet go DIRECTLY to the parking lot next to where they're being attacked, then CIRCLE the parking lot before driving BACK to the gas station?

They left because the thug was still shooting at them. If the thug who shot them had already left and hadn't bothered to follow them, why wouldn't they feel safe going back?

And from what I understand they never told the cops they left the scene???

Do you have a source on that? Dunn's attorney was quoted as suggesting that was a possibility, but he stated it as a hypothetical because he apparently didn't know whether they told the cops they left. Is there a reliable source that confirms his theory?

(edit: apparently this is the second time I've called you out for making the same baseless accusation, and you didn't back it up last time. Why do you feel the need to lie to defend Dunn?)

Yea.... Right. You go ahead and get ready for another disappointment after the current trial. No way a jury of 6 is going to convict based on current facts.

Well, OJ and Casey Anthony were acquitted, so you never can tell. All it'll take is one cross burners like you or spidey on the jury to guarantee a mistrial, because you wouldn't even entertain the possibility that the kid who got shot might have been innocent.

Yeah I agree, part of why I can understand why dunn left the scene and didn't come back. Stupid decision but having a shotgun pointed at your face will do that to you.

Or imagining it, at least.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Yeah I agree, part of why I can understand why dunn left the scene and didn't come back. Stupid decision but having a shotgun pointed at your face will do that to you.

As will being shot at, no?

Or are you too entrenched in this 'me v. them' in this thread to come back around?

 

[mugs]

Like I said, every aspect of their actions and behaviour shows that they dumped that gun.

I think I've explained three times now why this is so obviously wrong, yet you just keep repeating it as if it'll somehow make it true. That you can't even come up with a worthwhile counterargument is proof enough that you know what you're saying is a lie.

 

[Capt Caveman]

ROFL do you truly believe that they didn't know someone was shot and bleeding out in a car of four people?


They came back because someone in their crew had a bullet in them.

They run with felons on probation, they knew they can't just show up at a hospital with a bullet wound.


Like I said, every aspect of their actions and behaviour shows that they dumped that gun.

First sentence is false, in the chaos, a dead kid isn't going to be saying anything and the other three aren't going to be looking back at their friend.

Second sentence is true, they called 911 and ambulances were coming.

Third sentence is false. If they had a gun, they would have kept drivng. The guilty run and that's what Dunn did.

 

[They Live]

I think I've explained three times now why this is so obviously wrong, yet you just keep repeating it as if it'll somehow make it true. That you can't even come up with a worthwhile counterargument is proof enough that you know what you're saying is a lie.

The difference between Spidey and Spatial is that I think Spidey is dead serious on what he says. Where as Spatial is just trolling to get a rise out of people.

I could be wrong though.

 

[soundforbjt]

First sentence is false, in the chaos, a dead kid isn't going to be saying anything and the other three aren't going to be looking back at their friend.

Second sentence is true, they called 911 and ambulances were coming.

Third sentence is false. If they had a gun, they would have kept drivng. The guilty run and that's what Dunn did.

Or maybe if they actually had a gun, they would've shot the middle-aged drunk thug.

 

[Quakester]

has anyone's mind been changed in the course of this thread?

Nope

 

[Quakester]

No matter what any of you "arm chair lawyers" think, there is always reasonable doubt. And by the looks of this thread there is plenty of that.

 

[mugs]

No matter what any of you "arm chair lawyers" think, there is always reasonable doubt. And by the looks of this thread there is plenty of that.

I don't think you understand what reasonable doubt is. The cross-burning crew expects Dunn to be proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt, but that isn't necessary.

 

[HumblePie]

Not to mention there's three live witnesses from the Durango that will dispute Dunn's account. Unless there's a witness who comes forward (and there hasn't been so far) that agrees with Dunn's account, he is toast for murder 1.

You mean like this?

http://www.news4jax.com/news/witnes...oting/-/475880/20790378/-/1g82ut/-/index.html

ooops... looks like there was a witness at the scene that called 911, saw the kids get out, and look like they were trying to "stash" something. However, that was just their actions, as the man never actually saw anything either in terms of what they have been trying to hide if they did hide something. Nor did police investigate the area until 4 days later.

hrmm... wonder how that changes things.