Teenager shot dead after playing loud music

[Nemesis 1]

yes because the people at the wedding were monitoring how much he was drinking. I bet money that not a single person at that wedding could truthfully say how much Dunn had drank. All they could say would be 'I don't think..." or "he probably didn't..." And you have no idea what he did when he left the wedding, for all we know as soon as he got in his car, the 1st thing he did was pull out a flask of JD and take a few big ass swigs. Remember he was at a liquor store to get liquor when the shooting occurred.

He wasn't there to get Sweet Tea and Skittles...

I have been to many wedding without drinking . Ya know what else . There are a lot of people who go to weddings without drinking . The cops should have tested him . If they didn't blame them .

 

[SheHateMe]

He left early. Real early by all accounts. I doubt he had time to get more than a single drink if any considering the time frame involved of when the wedding party started and when the incident took place before 7:30.

Calling him DRUNK or going on a drunken rampage shooting spree is asinine at the point to say the least. Again, evidence points to the fact he wasn't drunk, witnesses state he wasn't drunk, and he didn't have time to get drunk unless he pounded them back in rapid fire. Which anyone pounding drinks that fast at a wedding is going to get noticed doing so.

By all accounts he was happy, having a great day, out with his GF and his new puppy and visiting his son for his wedding. He also had a long drive ahead of him and knew he would be staying at a hotel before going home. Someone like that doesn't pound back the alcohol.

Im sorry, when did I say he was drunk. I was commenting on Spidey's post about a drunk person having the ability to determined if he/she was being threatened and then using a gun as defense.

 

[SheHateMe]

Violent felon happened to show restraint from shooting with that "shotgun" compared to the insane drunk non-violent old businessman

Well he forgot to load shells into his imaginary shotgun.

 

[Geosurface]

Well he forgot to load shells into his imaginary shotgun.

Or they were so taken back at their intended victim (of at least intimidation) fighting back, and bullets flying into their vehicle... that they were all more concerned with ducking, and then with realizing that Jordan had been hit, to bother with a retaliatory shot.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I have been to many wedding without drinking . Ya know what else . There are a lot of people who go to weddings without drinking . The cops should have tested him . If they didn't blame them .

Except he was drinking at the wedding, purchasing more alcohol at the time of the incident and has already been arrested for DUI.

Being intoxicated could have been a reason for not contacting the police afterwards. And it wouldn't have done much good for the cops to test him since it was the next day when they were able to track him down.

 

[soundforbjt]

Also, as I pointed out, witness testimony from the wedding points out that Dunn was NOT drunk in the links I gave in previous posts. Go READ.

Stop with trying to state Dunn was drunk at the time. Evidence that the public knows shows otherwise at this time.

Someone at the wedding would not be qualified to determine whether Dunnn was legally impaired or not. The fact that he was drinking there and was buying more @ the gas station and then left the scene is suspect to anyone with a logically working brain.

 

[SheHateMe]

Someone at the wedding would not be qualified to determine whether Dunnn was legally impaired or not. The fact that he was drinking there and was buying more @ the gas station and then left the scene is suspect to anyone with a logically working brain.

He just went home to sleep it off. I bet he woke up in the morning as was like "I had the WILDEST dream last night...you wouldnt believe! Oh...the Police are at the door? What do they want?"

 

[Nemesis 1]

SO what I use to drink never got a dui but a drank almost every weekened for 15 years . I don't drink now except on really hot days . I will drink 1 beer . So Dunns past dui has nothing to do with anything. Like I said let the courts try him . When the state pushes something like this . If the state loses they should have to pay the defense, A state appointed attorney is a joke.

 

[Pens1566]

I have been to many wedding without drinking . Ya know what else . There are a lot of people who go to weddings without drinking . The cops should have tested him . If they didn't blame them .

Testing him over a day later would have been pointless. Because that's when they took him into custody.

 

[SheHateMe]

SO what I use to drink never got a dui but a drank almost every weekened for 15 years . I don't drink now except on really hot days . I will drink 1 beer . So Dunns past dui has nothing to do with anything. Like I said let the courts try him . When the state pushes something like this . If the state loses they should have to pay the defense, A state appointed attorney is a joke.

Oh, so Dunn's past doesnt count but Tommie's does. bahahhahahahahahahahahahahaa

We cannot judge him based on his past, but we can judge Tommie AND his friends based on his past.

 

[HumblePie]

How to you know how many drinks he had? Noone is claiming drunken rampage but he was likely under the influence to some degree. We won't know how much because he fled the scene of the killing.

Also teatotalers would'nt be stopping to buy more booze.

I have no idea the amount of total alcohol he had in his system prior to the shooting. A reasonable estimate can be assumed by accounts at the wedding.

The wedding had no alcohol and the reception was held HERE

http://winterbourneonstjohns.com/

of which catering and bar service was provided. Employee's, as well as witness accounts state Dunn did not drink much. The exact amount he was served and then drank is unknown, but what has been leaked was that it was "not much" and since the police haven't brought up on the charged that the crimes he is being charged with would also include "under the influence" if it could reasonably be determined by how much he was served and the time frame after until the shooting occurred.

Look, alcohol consumption and getting drunk has a very tight algorithmic formula for determination. It is also very simple to apply said formula based on known factors which the police would already know by now. The fact that the police haven't brought up any possible impairment means the chances are he was not under the influence of any alcohol at the time of the shooting.

It's logical deduction skills to figure out something this simple people.

 

[soundforbjt]

Bottom line: If no shotgun linked to someone in the suv is found and no witnesses (other than Dunn) heard the "threats"...It's over for Dunn.

 

[HumblePie]

Someone at the wedding would not be qualified to determine whether Dunnn was legally impaired or not. The fact that he was drinking there and was buying more @ the gas station and then left the scene is suspect to anyone with a logically working brain.

Uhh that is stupid. The reception was held at a place with CATERED drinks and food. Someone was SERVING them. They would know how much was served out to Dunn with a quick inquiry.

 

[soundforbjt]

I have no idea the amount of total alcohol he had in his system prior to the shooting. A reasonable estimate can be assumed by accounts at the wedding.

The wedding had no alcohol and the reception was held HERE

http://winterbourneonstjohns.com/

of which catering and bar service was provided. Employee's, as well as witness accounts state Dunn did not drink much. The exact amount he was served and then drank is unknown, but what has been leaked was that it was "not much" and since the police haven't brought up on the charged that the crimes he is being charged with would also include "under the influence" if it could reasonably be determined by how much he was served and the time frame after until the shooting occurred.

Look, alcohol consumption and getting drunk has a very tight algorithmic formula for determination. It is also very simple to apply said formula based on known factors which the police would already know by now. The fact that the police haven't brought up any possible impairment means the chances are he was not under the influence of any alcohol at the time of the shooting.

It's logical deduction skills to figure out something this simple people.

Not really. I know people who an hour after one drink are totally wasted. What gets one person legally impaired is not the same for another of equal size, etc. It's how their body processes the alcohol.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Or they were so taken back at their intended victim (of at least intimidation) fighting back, and bullets flying into their vehicle... that they were all more concerned with ducking, and then with realizing that Jordan had been hit, to bother with a retaliatory shot.

Violent felons remember? The first after seeing Jordan bleeding out is to get revenge with a 12 gauge to the head. Haven't you seen Boyz in tha Hood?

 

[HumblePie]

Not really. I know people who an hour after one drink are totally wasted. What gets one person legally impaired is not the same for another of equal size, etc. It's how their body processes the alcohol.

It's all based off a formula. Tolerance against the symptoms of alcohol is different than actually being legally drunk which is a simple formula based off the following:

gender, weight, amount consumed, food consumed, and time frame of consumption. Very reasonable estimates can be made about a persons BAL with those figures. All of which can be found out in accordance with Michael Dunn and the wedding reception.

Trust me, when someone is being held on charges of 2nd degree murder and attempted murder, the justice system is going to through the book at the person as the saying goes. Meaning they'll attempt to charge him with anything and everything that they have any shred of evidence of being able to. If he was drunk, he'd also be facing charges of public intoxication and disorderly conduct of which he is not.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Violent felons remember? The first after seeing Jordan bleeding out is to get revenge with a 12 gauge to the head. Haven't you seen Boyz in tha Hood?

Like most thugs, they're big and bad when pointing something at the window but run like cockroaches the moment someone fights back.


A lot of you are confusing gang members for thugs.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Like most thugs, they're big and bad when pointing something at the window but run like cockroaches the moment someone fights back.


A lot of you are confusing gang members for thugs.

So what you're saying is that they're not violent felons but in actuality wannabe thugs?

Gang members would probably be in line with violent felons.

 

[SheHateMe]

Uhh that is stupid. The reception was held at a place with CATERED drinks and food. Someone was SERVING them. They would know how much was served out to Dunn with a quick inquiry.

There must have been only a handful of people at the wedding if the servers can remember how much Dunn had to drink.

 

[SheHateMe]

So what you're saying is that they're not violent felons but in actuality wannabe thugs?

Gang members would probably be in line with violent felons.

Its so funny, they were all thugs but somehow allowed Dunn to continue arguing with them instead of popping a cap in his ass and driving off...you know, like the statistics tell Geo and Spatial.

 

[soundforbjt]

Bottom line: If no shotgun linked to someone in the suv is found and no witnesses (other than Dunn) heard the "threats"...It's over for Dunn.

Still true.

 

[Pens1566]

It's all based off a formula. Tolerance against the symptoms of alcohol is different than actually being legally drunk which is a simple formula based off the following:

gender, weight, amount consumed, food consumed, and time frame of consumption. Very reasonable estimates can be made about a persons BAL with those figures. All of which can be found out in accordance with Michael Dunn and the wedding reception.

Trust me, when someone is being held on charges of 2nd degree murder and attempted murder, the justice system is going to through the book at the person as the saying goes. Meaning they'll attempt to charge him with anything and everything that they have any shred of evidence of being able to. If he was drunk, he'd also be facing charges of public intoxication and disorderly conduct of which he is not.

I think you're assuming that people were paying more attention to what he ate, drank (and time frame that both of those were consumed in) than actually occurred. Guests at a wedding don't tend to observe that unless it's an extreme.

 

[HumblePie]

There must have been only a handful of people at the wedding if the servers can remember how much Dunn had to drink.

Even the DJ remembered him.

 

[HumblePie]

I think you're assuming that people were paying more attention to what he ate, drank (and time frame that both of those were consumed in) than actually occurred. Guests at a wedding don't tend to observe that unless it's an extreme.

I'm not making assumptions on that at all. I am stating what witnesses have stated to police. Which was they did not view that Dunn had drank much. This includes wedding guests at the reception as well as servers and even the DJ.

I then use logical deduction skills. One can conclude that the information was accurate enough to not allow police a way to even try to charge Dunn with a public intoxication charge, which would be a very minor charge to tack on and usually is if at any way feasible.

It's not frikking rocket science.

 

[Quakester]

I don't wish anything. I have been for years letting dirtbags just like you who post here what know I think. Only complete fvcking POS would say these kids got what they deserved by playing music. I hope someone puts a bullet in your family members for playing loud music, then let me know how it feels. You @ss clown.

Wow, I got points for a helluva lot less. Nice.