Teenager shot dead after playing loud music

[Dr. Zaus]

You REALLY don't understand Darwins theory of evolution, if you did you wouldn't say this.

Do you think you're "more evolved" than a pig or a cockroach? You're not.

We are, though, better adapted to manipulation of, and existence within, diverse environments

 

[alkemyst]

dumbass grunt doesn't realize numbers <> to control.

 

[umbrella39]

Imagine the last thought going through this poor kids head before the drunken Dunn decided no black kid is going to talk back to me. Poor kid just trying to get home to his family while enjoying his friennds company couldn't even enjoy some tunes without a self appointed Charlie Bronson emptying a clip into the car killing him. Now a teenager is never go to their prom... never walk across the stage to graduate because some angry old white racist couldnt possibly let some black kids drive off after kindly telling the man no thanks to his rude demands...

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Imagine the last thought going through this poor kids head before the drunken Dunn decided no black kid is going to talk back to me. Poor kid just trying to get home to his family while enjoying his friennds company couldn't even enjoy some tunes without a self appointed Charlie Bronson emptying a clip into the car killing him. Now a teenager is never go to their prom... never walk across the stage to graduate because some angry old white racist couldnt possibly let some black kids drive off after kindly telling the man no thanks to his rude demands...

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[Capt Caveman]

Imagine the last thought going through this poor kids head before the drunken Dunn decided no black kid is going to talk back to me. Poor kid just trying to get home to his family while enjoying his friennds company couldn't even enjoy some tunes without a self appointed Charlie Bronson emptying a clip into the car killing him. Now a teenager is never go to their prom... never walk across the stage to graduate because some angry old white racist couldnt possibly let some black kids drive off after kindly telling the man no thanks to his rude demands...

Based on the interview with the defense attorney, who has used the SYG defense, in the link a few posts above, she believes he's going to get charged with first degree murder based on the large number of witnesses. Dunn should have killed everyone instead of running.

 

[alkemyst]

Based on the interview with the defense attorney, who has used the SYG defense, in the link a few posts above, she believes he's going to get charged with first degree murder based on the large number of witnesses. Dunn should have killed everyone instead of running.

sadly some kid with a home monitor that wasn't monitored broke into a cop's house and killed a retired service / police dog. His 'peeps' are taking up a collection.

 

[Geosurface]

was he hoping that they wouldn't be able to track him down?

Almost certainly so.

And this doesn't mean he wasn't innocent of any crime.

If you'd just had to kill someone who was trying to kill you, and you knew the scene looked absolutely horrible for you, and didn't think anyone would believe the truth... you can't see yourself possibly just making a run for it?

Rather than cross your fingers that the justice system and 12 random retards off the street are going to be rational? That the prosecutor isn't going to withhold evidence from your defense attorney (or public defender if you can't afford a decent one... even worse)

Or, if it's a minority that you killed... that the media and public aren't going to get so hyped up on a narrative that the facts will cease to have even the slightest chance of mattering?

Shit. I could easily see myself making a run for Mexico or something in a situation like that. Get an old fishing boat... fix it up... take tourists out in it... I don't think that's too much to ask.

 

[SheHateMe]

Almost certainly so.

And this doesn't mean he wasn't innocent of any crime.

If you'd just had to kill someone who was trying to kill you, and you knew the scene looked absolutely horrible for you, and didn't think anyone would believe the truth... you can't see yourself possibly just making a run for it?
........

I love how you guys try to spin to story to blame to witnesses for turning in this poor white man because he won't "have a chance" in court.

 

[Geosurface]

I love how you guys try to spin to story to blame to witnesses for turning in this poor white man because he won't "have a chance" in court.

Once the black community changes the statistics, I'll update my prejudices accordingly.

 

[QueBert]

From what we know as fact thus far, Dunn didn't think he hit anybody.

It really validates that he truly thought they were a bunch of thugs. What do thugs do when they're shot at? Call in more thugs. He didn't want to be around when they showed up. Since he didn't hit anyone, no point in calling the cops. The SUV was leaving anyway (to ditch the gun) so he went on home as well.


....Again, it's not what I would do, but in a jury trial I really don't think it will hold much weight considering the felon and man on probation in the SUV. Society does not care about thugs, most of us are completely sick of them. A jury of 12? Hah.

So you're telling me he shot at thugs who pulled a gun on him, and after thinking he hadn't hit any he just left. Do thugs normally just let you shoot at them and leave? Why wasn't he worried that they'd try to follow him? I'm confused, if I shot at thugs and didn't hit any I would be shitting myself knowing they were going to shoot back.

His story's unfuckingbelievable.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

So you're telling me he shot at thugs who pulled a gun on him, and after thinking he hadn't hit any he just left. Do thugs normally just let you shoot at them and leave? Why wasn't he worried that they'd try to follow him? I'm confused, if I shot at thugs and didn't hit any I would be shitting myself knowing they were going to shoot back.

His story's unfuckingbelievable.

There is some confusion; but it is not on your end Q-Bert.

 

[classy]

Once the black community changes the statistics, I'll update my prejudices accordingly.

LOL Yeah right

 

[SpatiallyAware]

LOL Yeah right

Who do you think bears the responsibility to change these trends and statistics?

 

[blankslate]

Almost certainly so.

And this doesn't mean he wasn't innocent of any crime.

If you'd just had to kill someone who was trying to kill you, and you knew the scene looked absolutely horrible for you, and didn't think anyone would believe the truth... you can't see yourself possibly just making a run for it?

Rather than cross your fingers that the justice system and 12 random retards off the street are going to be rational? That the prosecutor isn't going to withhold evidence from your defense attorney (or public defender if you can't afford a decent one... even worse)

Or, if it's a minority that you killed... that the media and public aren't going to get so hyped up on a narrative that the facts will cease to have even the slightest chance of mattering?

Shit. I could easily see myself making a run for Mexico or something in a situation like that. Get an old fishing boat... fix it up... take tourists out in it... I don't think that's too much to ask.

Sorry...

I wouldn't have gotten myself into that situation because I would have been reasonable enough to either ignore the music until I got what I needed from the gas station and left or and perhaps called the police about the loud music, if it was really loud (that is louder than at a concert and I had to yell to be heard by someone right next to me)

Way to rationalize running from a shooting and neglecting to call the police even *if* (and it's a big if based on Mr. Dunn's actions as they are not the actions of an innocent person on the face of it) the shooting was justified.
It's an incredibly strange was for a person who is not guilty of homicide to behave.

You've pretty much wrote a movie plot with your post...

 

[CitizenKain]

So I see the racists are still defending Dunn, not surprising there. They will invent any situation possible to justify a white person killing a black person as something that is not only ok, but should be encouraged.

 

[HumblePie]

So I see the racists are still defending Dunn, not surprising there. They will invent any situation possible to justify a white person killing a black person as something that is not only ok, but should be encouraged.

Race baiting much?

 

[surfsatwerk]

Race baiting much?

Better baiting than hating amirite?

 

[SheHateMe]

Once the black community changes the statistics, I'll update my prejudices accordingly.

Sure.... :hmm:

Not understanding what THAT has to do with you explaining away why Dunn chose to run from what he did. Claiming that the negroes would burn him at the stake is not a very good defense. I'm sure whitey was at the Gas Station too.

Too bad they had witnesses..you're pretty much saying that he was toast so it was good that he booked it..but he got caught..so now its the fault of the negroes that Dunn will probably go down in flames.

 

[HumblePie]

Better baiting than hating amirite?

the baiting implies hating as his post oozes with it.

 

[surfsatwerk]

the baiting implies hating as his post oozes with it.

I don't hate fish, just want them to nibble.

 

[HumblePie]

Looks like Dunn changed attorneys for his case. Which is good cause that Robin chick was not doing very well based on the few interviews I saw of her.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/topst...ets-new-attorney?odyssey=tab|topnews|bc|large

Switched to a Cory Strolla.

 

[blankslate]

Looks like Dunn changed attorneys for his case. Which is good cause that Robin chick was not doing very well based on the few interviews I saw of her.

Not surprising I guess.

The lawyer in this interview
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/...2/611/Legal-analysis-of-the-Jordan-Davis-case

brought up the question of why his then defense attorney stated that Mr. Dunn definitely saw a shotgun when all that was needed to invoke SYG is Mr. Dunn's belief that he saw a shotgun.

Belief about seeing a shotgun gives more leeway to the defense than stating there definitely without a doubt was a shotgun.

Sort of shooting for the moon when you only need to get into orbit.

I'd really like to know what the witnesses other than the people who were involved told the police.

 

[QueBert]

Who do you think bears the responsibility to change these trends and statistics?

You chose to pre-judge people. You can post statistics all day about how all these crimes are committed by black teens. But that doesn't equate to most black teens being criminals. You will never change your mind here because you're a racist. You don't care about facts. If a study came out and said "90% of thugs are black males, but only 5% of black males are thugs" you'd still automatically consider every black male as a thug simply because you're a fucking retard who's on a mission here.

Answer me this, what percentage of black teens do you think are thugs?

 

[Geosurface]

I wouldn't have gotten myself into that situation because I would have been reasonable enough to either ignore the music until I got what I needed from the gas station and left

Same here. I also would've called cops. I think... I've never been in a terrified situation like that where the weight of my life as I know it ending if I pick up that phone and call cops is laid out before me.

I'm appealing to you to not be 100% sure how you'd react or how every single innocent person would react, under those circumstances none of us have been in.

You've pretty much wrote a movie plot with your post...

Well I was referencing Shawshank Redemption there at the end with the bit about the boat. For humor.

 

[SheHateMe]

If this was self defense..why are you holding on to your little theory of his life being over. If they REALLY were threatening him and had a gun like he said..he could have called the cops with no problem. Instead, he ran. Now his butthole is up for grabs.