Taylor Swift decides she doesn't get called a wh*re nearly often enough

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BoomerD

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No, just someone that thinks shit attitudes like yours is exactly a big part of the problem. I've heard like 5 of her songs ever so I won't even comment other than the first one was a very typical country-pop song by a young woman (hence the "11 year old girl lyrics" comment I made), and the rest have been typical catchy modern pop songs. I've taken issue with her parroting record labels bullshit arguments about stuff like streaming and other things so I'm hardly a champion of hers all the time. She has more recently started to take a more hard line stance on standing up for women, and I think that's great. They need people like her to speak up.

Except you did all but outright saying whore. If you say a woman has a reputation for fucking a lot of guys, you're calling her a whore/slut. Plus, considering your little "joke" yeah not buying your "what?!? I wouldn't call her a whore, I think she's just fairly good looking" (which, uh...not sure why you're trying to defend your shitty post by commenting on how attractive you find her, like that has any bearing on if you consider her a whore or not, but then that kinda speaks on it; in your case, women you find attractive can't be whores?) defense.

Its ok, I used to be stuck in that type of mentality when I was younger, and I've certainly commented on women's appearances and if I found them attractive, even more recently because its a difficult thing to stop doing, so I'm absolutely not blameless. If I didn't have people call me out on that, I wouldn't have worked to change.


Whoops...yep, looks like I stepped on his feels...Y'see, dark, ...I don't give two shits who she fucks, how many guys she fucks, or even if she fucks girls. it's HER business, not mine. AFAIC, if guys can fuck anything that breathes, so can the girls. BUT, it's not ME who's calling her a whore...it's 4Chan, it's the butthurt righties, it's the fans of other singers who resent her popularity...and (maybe?) some of the guys she's dated and left behind.

I see NO reason to stop making comments like "I think she’s a fairly good looking little girl," she IS...and there's not a damned thing wrong with saying so.
 

sdifox

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So when can I expect videos of people buying containers worth of Taylor Swift merchandise and setting it ablaze?

I am a bit of a pyro.
 
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It really depends on context though. It's pretty sexist to be commenting on how hot she is in a thread that's about her political views. It suggests that she isn't anything more than an object of male attention. But if I'm watching her in another context, like walking down a red carpet in a sexy dress, I might say, "damn she looks hot." My wife and daughter comment on men's looks all the time when we're watching TV. It's almost unavoidable. We all have an opinion on the looks of basically everyone we see. We're not going to keep it to ourselves all the time. It's a matter of knowing when it is or isn't appropriate.

So far as calling her a "whore," that's just flat out nasty misogyny.

Well, duh. Sorry to be a dick, but obviously context and situation matters (to the point, that I'm kinda...I don't know what to say that you felt you had to say it like I somehow am unaware), but that's the entire point. For a lot of guys context does not matter, and their desire to fuck a woman is the single most important, if not the only, aspect of that woman to them at all times and in all situations. Guys like Boomer can't think of women as anything more than something that they wish they could jam their dirty old probably don't work without Viagra dicks into. Notice how basically none of them are even discussing her opinions, they're basically just acknowledging that she has opinions (which is dismissive) oh and they would or wouldn't fuck her. Considering that I think we can probably guess that she wouldn't fuck a single one of the guys posting in this thread, its laughably pointless for it to even be discussed.

That's what you get because a lot of guys are mad that all women aren't available to them at their whim. Which is also why you get them constantly trying to go "meh, she's not that good looking" and other stupid shit to try and placate their fragile egos. And they think its perfectly justified because its the womens' faults for going and being famous enough that they know about them.

Whoops...yep, looks like I stepped on his feels...Y'see, dark, ...I don't give two shits who she fucks, how many guys she fucks, or even if she fucks girls. it's HER business, not mine. AFAIC, if guys can fuck anything that breathes, so can the girls. BUT, it's not ME who's calling her a whore...it's 4Chan, it's the butthurt righties, it's the fans of other singers who resent her popularity...and (maybe?) some of the guys she's dated and left behind.

I see NO reason to stop making comments like "I think she’s a fairly good looking little girl," she IS...and there's not a damned thing wrong with saying so.

That you think I'd be ashamed of getting angry about you being a disgusting fucking idiot...well I think it says more about you than me. That you double down by insinuating that you might be a full on fucking pedophile, that says even more and further reinforces me having called your behavior out.

For someone that doesn't give two shits you sure keep talking about it. Uh, ok, then why were you making it your business by talking about it? I mean, holy shit...just wow. Its like you have zero self awareness. Uh, no, you were the one that went out of your way to talk about it. That was you calling her a whore. This is like that stupid duck blower yuppie "outdoorsman" that said that he's fine with gay people but you know, Jesus says they're wrong and will burn in hell and Jesus is right (basically trying to pass off the judgement as thought its Jesus and not him doing it when he says Jesus is right, that's him explicitly supporting Jesus on that subject). You don't get to pass the buck. You were the one that brought it up. You were the one talking about her reputation. Unless you're a 4Channer I don't even know why you'd act like her reputation with them even matters, let alone bring it up. That you're trying to absolve yourself by saying it wasn't you after you were the one that said her reputation is to fuck a bunch of guys, and then going out of your way to call her a little girl and that you're attracted to her, well it damn sure wasn't 4Chan that did that.

That you don't see anything wrong with you saying that you didn't call her a whore because you think she's good looking (that was literally the defense you gave for having said that)...again, do you have any awareness how you come off? Also, little girl? Wow, so you're taking it to another level. I'm guessing you're one of those disgusting lecherous old guys that tries to eye-rape teenage girls, probably even call them "cutey" and other shit while they're forced to wait on you at restaurants and other situations where they can't really call you out for the disgusting sick fuck you are. But you better believe they are doing that and that the only thing they'd willingly do that involved your penis would be to kick it as hard as they could, with steel toe boots.
 

WelshBloke

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ch33zw1z

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Everything else aside, it's a bit depressing that people won't get involved in politics unless a pop star shows them the way.
That said anything that gets people interested is good and at least she explained her reasons so that might get people to think as well as get involved, which is important.

She'll be chastised for being an intellectual who conveys her reason coherently.
 

Homerboy

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So when can I expect videos of people buying containers worth of Taylor Swift merchandise and setting it ablaze?

I am a bit of a pyro.

There's already been posts of people burning their Taylor Sift stuff. They never fail to disappoint.
 

Viper1j

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"Taylor Swift has been an alt-right icon since her first record dropped; her blonde hair and blue eyes made her a magnet for neo-Nazi fandom. Her legal team has had to legally request bloggers to stop sharing her pictures and lyrics alongside Hitler quotes. She was also the inspiration of the now disappeared “Taylor Swift for a Fascist Europe” meme page (which accrued 20K likes), and her picture is plastered all over online Aryan fan boards on sites like Reddit. In a Broadly piece from 2016 entitled “How Taylor Swift Became A Nazi Idol”, Mitchell Sunderland wrote, “Every demographic chooses a pop icon. Gay men worship Cher, black women love Beyoncé, and neo-Nazis worship Taylor Swift.” The piece goes on to speak to a writer of the The Daily Stormer blog, Andrew Anglin, who explains who Swift is a “pure Aryan goddess” and “Athena reborn” and argues that Taylor Swift was secretly a Nazi, but was just waiting for Donald Trump to be elected to say so."

https://www.newstatesman.com/cultur...-democrat-alt-right-devastated-neo-nazi-4chan

Neo-Nazis are into chicks with no tits?

I'm working real hard to try to be surprised, but just not making it. Of course the whole Nazi thing is kind of gay, dancing around in the leather boots with the whips. Maybe they like her so much because she looks like a 13-year-old boy.
 

Indus

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Neo-Nazis are into chicks with no tits?

I'm working real hard to try to be surprised, but just not making it. Of course the whole Nazi thing is kind of gay, dancing around in the leather boots with the whips. Maybe they like her so much because she looks like a 13-year-old boy.

Can you imagine Nazi's doing the: the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off
Heart-breakers gonna break, break, break, break, break
And the fakers gonna fake, fake, fake, fake, fake
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off
 

Viper1j

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Can you imagine Nazi's doing the: the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off
Heart-breakers gonna break, break, break, break, break
And the fakers gonna fake, fake, fake, fake, fake
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off

Can't Shake It Off: How Taylor Swift Became a Nazi Idol

Nazis and members of the "alt-right" consider Taylor Swift an Aryan pop queen who is “red pilling” America into a race war through her pop hits.

Every demographic chooses a pop icon. Gay men worship Cher, black women love Beyoncé, and neo-Nazis worship Taylor Swift, a skinny, blonde Pennsylvania girl that they have labeled an "Aryan Goddess." Nazis and members of the "alt right"—an Internet subculture that is best described as the venn diagram of hipster culture and white supremacy—have been spreading a conspiracy theory that Swift is a covert Nazi. They claim Swift's songs "red pilled" America into believing a conservative, racist agenda. (Taylor Swift's representative, a publicist named Tree Paine, did not return Broadly's request for comment.)

"Firstly, Taylor Swift is a pure Aryan goddess, like something out of classical Greek poetry. Athena reborn. That's the most important thing," explains Andre Anglin, the writer of the white supremacist blog the Daily Stormer. "It is also an established fact that Taylor Swift is secretly a Nazi and is simply waiting for the time when Donald Trump makes it safe for her to come out and announce her Aryan agenda to the world. Probably, she will be betrothed to Trump's son, and they will be crowned American royalty." (Swift is notoriously private about her political leanings, although, after Obama was elected, she told Rolling Stone, "I've never seen this country so happy about a political decision in my entire time of being alive. I'm so glad this was my first election.")

It's unclear when the white supremacists started writing blog posts about their Taylor Swift fandom. Anglin believes Swift Nazi memes may have existed since her "Teardrops on My Guitar" days. "Some believe it was meme magic that made her famous—though no one can be certain," he says. "We are certain that as soon as Nazis saw her, they were magnetically drawn to her sculpted Aryan form and angelic demeanor."
 
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Everything else aside, it's a bit depressing that people won't get involved in politics unless a pop star shows them the way.
That said anything that gets people interested is good and at least she explained her reasons so that might get people to think as well as get involved, which is important.

Nobody’s going to get involved because of any star. They’ll go to some fund raising concert but step out and vote, that’s crazy talk
 

Zorba

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Well, duh. Sorry to be a dick, but obviously context and situation matters (to the point, that I'm kinda...I don't know what to say that you felt you had to say it like I somehow am unaware), but that's the entire point. For a lot of guys context does not matter, and their desire to fuck a woman is the single most important, if not the only, aspect of that woman to them at all times and in all situations. Guys like Boomer can't think of women as anything more than something that they wish they could jam their dirty old probably don't work without Viagra dicks into. Notice how basically none of them are even discussing her opinions, they're basically just acknowledging that she has opinions (which is dismissive) oh and they would or wouldn't fuck her. Considering that I think we can probably guess that she wouldn't fuck a single one of the guys posting in this thread, its laughably pointless for it to even be discussed.

That's what you get because a lot of guys are mad that all women aren't available to them at their whim. Which is also why you get them constantly trying to go "meh, she's not that good looking" and other stupid shit to try and placate their fragile egos. And they think its perfectly justified because its the womens' faults for going and being famous enough that they know about them.



That you think I'd be ashamed of getting angry about you being a disgusting fucking idiot...well I think it says more about you than me. That you double down by insinuating that you might be a full on fucking pedophile, that says even more and further reinforces me having called your behavior out.

For someone that doesn't give two shits you sure keep talking about it. Uh, ok, then why were you making it your business by talking about it? I mean, holy shit...just wow. Its like you have zero self awareness. Uh, no, you were the one that went out of your way to talk about it. That was you calling her a whore. This is like that stupid duck blower yuppie "outdoorsman" that said that he's fine with gay people but you know, Jesus says they're wrong and will burn in hell and Jesus is right (basically trying to pass off the judgement as thought its Jesus and not him doing it when he says Jesus is right, that's him explicitly supporting Jesus on that subject). You don't get to pass the buck. You were the one that brought it up. You were the one talking about her reputation. Unless you're a 4Channer I don't even know why you'd act like her reputation with them even matters, let alone bring it up. That you're trying to absolve yourself by saying it wasn't you after you were the one that said her reputation is to fuck a bunch of guys, and then going out of your way to call her a little girl and that you're attracted to her, well it damn sure wasn't 4Chan that did that.

That you don't see anything wrong with you saying that you didn't call her a whore because you think she's good looking (that was literally the defense you gave for having said that)...again, do you have any awareness how you come off? Also, little girl? Wow, so you're taking it to another level. I'm guessing you're one of those disgusting lecherous old guys that tries to eye-rape teenage girls, probably even call them "cutey" and other shit while they're forced to wait on you at restaurants and other situations where they can't really call you out for the disgusting sick fuck you are. But you better believe they are doing that and that the only thing they'd willingly do that involved your penis would be to kick it as hard as they could, with steel toe boots.

I think what she said was real reasoned and she did a good job of discussing actual issues. I also agree that people shouldn't be talking about her looks in a thread about her political statement. Her statement will probably have some real effect, more than a typical celeb comment, considering the demographics of her fan base.

But calling someone a pedo because they said that a 30 year old women is attractive is bat shit crazy.
 
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woolfe9998

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Well, duh. Sorry to be a dick, but obviously context and situation matters (to the point, that I'm kinda...I don't know what to say that you felt you had to say it like I somehow am unaware), but that's the entire point. For a lot of guys context does not matter, and their desire to fuck a woman is the single most important, if not the only, aspect of that woman to them at all times and in all situations. Guys like Boomer can't think of women as anything more than something that they wish they could jam their dirty old probably don't work without Viagra dicks into. Notice how basically none of them are even discussing her opinions, they're basically just acknowledging that she has opinions (which is dismissive) oh and they would or wouldn't fuck her. Considering that I think we can probably guess that she wouldn't fuck a single one of the guys posting in this thread, its laughably pointless for it to even be discussed.

That's what you get because a lot of guys are mad that all women aren't available to them at their whim. Which is also why you get them constantly trying to go "meh, she's not that good looking" and other stupid shit to try and placate their fragile egos. And they think its perfectly justified because its the womens' faults for going and being famous enough that they know about them.

Fair enough. I was responding to this statement specifically:

Its ok, I used to be stuck in that type of mentality when I was younger, and I've certainly commented on women's appearances and if I found them attractive, even more recently because its a difficult thing to stop doing, so I'm absolutely not blameless. If I didn't have people call me out on that, I wouldn't have worked to change.

Which didn't seem limited by context, but you've clarified your meaning here so no big thing.
 

BoomerD

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Wow...is dark the “stop picking on Brittney” guy?

stop-picking-on-britney.jpg
 

IronWing

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I think she meant that she was an "attention whore", I guess. That or maybe she is into "whoreticulture".

ps. I dont even know who this chick is anyway.
She’s the pop singer with the most amazing makeup job ever, sings good, writes catchy songs, and dances like my dad.