Supervisor makes a stand on CalWorks

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Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: frostedflakes
That's why I used the extremely broad term "society." Obviously it's not beneficial to everyone, I never claimed there weren't downsides to low cost illegal labor flooding the job market. Just saying that overall, they may be a benefit to society as opposed to a drain. Like I said I'd be interested in reading some good studies on this if anybody has any suggestions, I did some quick Googling and didn't find much.

edit: And you bring up some good points as well TruePaige. For the last one, though, if there was a cheaper and more efficient way to harvest those grapes or whatever, that's what farmers would be using. I mean businesses are out to maximize profits, they wouldn't be using illegal labor if it wasn't the most cost effective option available. Of course that will change as wages these workers demand increases and technology improves.

Not even close. We imprison, feed, educate and provide medical care for the illegals and their anchor babies, and they provide cheap farm labor? Not a good trade.

Yeah send them back over the border. I know many people that would take any work right now even picking strawberries part time.

 

[Svnla]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

......The Latinos who have a vote are US citizens and therefore they have a right to be heard. If they pressure for a more humane approach to immigratrion, you're going to have to adapt - sorry about that.

I wonder how they became US citizens and able to vote? Oh, you mean like the Amnesty programs that let illegals become legals?...or the anchor babies? I have no problem with people that became citizens the legal way as I was one of the legal immigrants.

The hell with laws and regulations, just sneak in and get free stuffs...while millions of highly skilled professionals waiting for years to get in the legal way.

More humane approach? Like what? Come oonnnnn right in ILLEGALS, you do not need any skills or anything, we will take care of you.

Bottom line = ILLEGALS = against the law. PERIOD!!!!

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Man people love being able to openly treat others as subhuman if given the chance to do so without social recourse

Do you dispute that California is facing a paralyzing budget crisis? Do you think maybe one way to deal with that is to not give out $425 million in free stuff?

Plenty of people are willing to employ, or rather exploit immigrants in order to make savings when work exists. It is true that work is becoming increasingly hard to find; however, I don't think that the immigrants, or their families, are to blame. I would seek to control expenditure in other areas before I started pointing the finger at immigrants.

Care to show me where I placed any blame on the illegal immigrants? The blame lies with the people that passed the legislation, but really, who is to blame is of no relevance at this point, they simply don't have the money to continue doing it. I'm fairly certain they still need to find other cuts to make as well, but I'd much rather see this cut than wages for firemen, police, and teachers.

You see an opportunity to cut costs, I see people going hungry:

"CalWorks benefits to illegal aliens and their children"

I would identify "benefits" and "children" as the two most important words in that sentence; you would choose "illegal" and "alien".

However, we can both agree that cuts should never affect the wages of the fire brigade, the police force or education.

Actually, I would pick "Calworks" and "benefits"
It was tough, though, I was leaning towards "to" and "and" for a bit.

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: ZeGermans
Man people love being able to openly treat others as subhuman if given the chance to do so without social recourse

Do you dispute that California is facing a paralyzing budget crisis? Do you think maybe one way to deal with that is to not give out $425 million in free stuff?

Plenty of people are willing to employ, or rather exploit immigrants in order to make savings when work exists. It is true that work is becoming increasingly hard to find; however, I don't think that the immigrants, or their families, are to blame. I would seek to control expenditure in other areas before I started pointing the finger at immigrants.

Care to show me where I placed any blame on the illegal immigrants? The blame lies with the people that passed the legislation, but really, who is to blame is of no relevance at this point, they simply don't have the money to continue doing it. I'm fairly certain they still need to find other cuts to make as well, but I'd much rather see this cut than wages for firemen, police, and teachers.

You see an opportunity to cut costs, I see people going hungry:

"CalWorks benefits to illegal aliens and their children"

I would identify "benefits" and "children" as the two most important words in that sentence; you would choose "illegal" and "alien".

However, we can both agree that cuts should never affect the wages of the fire brigade, the police force or education.

Actually, I would pick "Calworks" and "benefits"
It was tough, though, I was leaning towards "to" and "and" for a bit.

I have no doubt it was tough for you.