Supersize Me

[Amused]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: bob4432
thw whole reason behind the documentary is becaue mcdonald's claim their food is not that bad for you. doing it straight for 30 days and only eating that is a bit excessive but it does show the realities of it.

there are many people that do eat fast food on a daily basis, it is pretty sad when there are more people in line at n-and-out or chick-fil-a than at the library on a daily basis

He super-sized every meal and ate well past his own point of satiation. He forced himself to finish each meal even when he was full and would have otherwise stopped eating. It doesn't matter what you eat, if you eat twice as much as your body tells you it can handle, you're going to have problems. I'm willing to bet that I could eat nothing but McDonalds for a month straight and be perfectly fine as long as I actually stop eating once I get full at each meal.

ZV

You need to see the movie before you comment on it. He only super-sized if he was asked, this happened twice in Texas during the entire month of the diet.

Sure, he supersized if they asked. But nobody held a gun to his head and told him to eat every last french fry. The average person without an eating disorder eats until they feel full. He went far beyond that, eating past full, into feeling sick and puking. That's where his experiment became junk science.

Exactly. He GORGED HIMSELF folks. He force fed himself when he wasn't hungry. He ate past the point of feeling full, or even "stuffed" to the point of feeling ill on a consistent basis.

Folks, if his symptoms were indicative of a NORMAL diet eaten mainly, or even solely at McDonald's, we would have an epidemic of liver failure LONG before we had an obesity epidemic. His liver damage is NOT indicative of a high fat NORMAL diet, it is indicative of a FORCE FED diet with consistent gorging.

 

[Zanix]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: bob4432
thw whole reason behind the documentary is becaue mcdonald's claim their food is not that bad for you. doing it straight for 30 days and only eating that is a bit excessive but it does show the realities of it.

there are many people that do eat fast food on a daily basis, it is pretty sad when there are more people in line at n-and-out or chick-fil-a than at the library on a daily basis

He super-sized every meal and ate well past his own point of satiation. He forced himself to finish each meal even when he was full and would have otherwise stopped eating. It doesn't matter what you eat, if you eat twice as much as your body tells you it can handle, you're going to have problems. I'm willing to bet that I could eat nothing but McDonalds for a month straight and be perfectly fine as long as I actually stop eating once I get full at each meal.

ZV

You need to see the movie before you comment on it. He only super-sized if he was asked, this happened twice in Texas during the entire month of the diet.

Sure, he supersized if they asked. But nobody held a gun to his head and told him to eat every last french fry. The average person without an eating disorder eats until they feel full. He went far beyond that, eating past full, into feeling sick and puking. That's where his experiment became junk science.

Exactly. He GORGED HIMSELF folks. He force fed himself when he wasn't hungry. He ate past the point of feeling full, or even "stuffed" to the point of feeling ill on a consistent basis.

Folks, if his symptoms were indicative of a NORMAL diet eaten mainly, or even solely at McDonald's, we would have an epidemic of liver failure LONG before we had an obesity epidemic. His liver damage is NOT indicative of a high fat NORMAL diet, it is indicative of a FORCE FED diet with consistent gorging.

So could a person live off the McDonalds menu? And be healthy, of course.

 

[RiDE]

I have never seen or heard McDonald's say that their Big Macs are good for you.

 

[Zanix]

Originally posted by: RiDE
I have never seen or heard McDonald's say that their Big Macs are good for you.

Yeah, I remember reading a quote from McDonalds; it was something like people should eat responsibly.

Edit: which I guess kind of admits the guy's premise. I wonder why he thought he had to gorge himself.

 

[HombrePequeno]

He only got fat because he didn't exercise at all. I read a story where a teacher did the same thing except he exercised a decent amount. At the end of the month they were the same weight as at the start.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: bob4432
thw whole reason behind the documentary is becaue mcdonald's claim their food is not that bad for you. doing it straight for 30 days and only eating that is a bit excessive but it does show the realities of it.

there are many people that do eat fast food on a daily basis, it is pretty sad when there are more people in line at n-and-out or chick-fil-a than at the library on a daily basis

He super-sized every meal and ate well past his own point of satiation. He forced himself to finish each meal even when he was full and would have otherwise stopped eating. It doesn't matter what you eat, if you eat twice as much as your body tells you it can handle, you're going to have problems. I'm willing to bet that I could eat nothing but McDonalds for a month straight and be perfectly fine as long as I actually stop eating once I get full at each meal.

ZV

You need to see the movie before you comment on it. He only super-sized if he was asked, this happened twice in Texas during the entire month of the diet.

Sure, he supersized if they asked. But nobody held a gun to his head and told him to eat every last french fry. The average person without an eating disorder eats until they feel full. He went far beyond that, eating past full, into feeling sick and puking. That's where his experiment became junk science.

Exactly. He GORGED HIMSELF folks. He force fed himself when he wasn't hungry. He ate past the point of feeling full, or even "stuffed" to the point of feeling ill on a consistent basis.

Folks, if his symptoms were indicative of a NORMAL diet eaten mainly, or even solely at McDonald's, we would have an epidemic of liver failure LONG before we had an obesity epidemic. His liver damage is NOT indicative of a high fat NORMAL diet, it is indicative of a FORCE FED diet with consistent gorging.

So could a person live off the McDonalds menu? And be healthy, of course.

Actually, yes. Have you LOOKED at the entire McDonald's menu?

They have salads and most are offering fruit cups now. They also offer grilled chicken.

At any rate, anyone who ate ANYTHING at McDonald's every day, but only ate when hungry and stopped when full would be a LOT healthier than Spurlock was after force feeding himself on a daily basis 3-5 times his normal calorie intake for a month straight.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
He only got fat because he didn't exercise at all. I read a story where a teacher did the same thing except he exercised a decent amount. At the end of the month they were the same weight as at the start.

He got fat because he was consuming more than double the calories that his body needed. His body needed around 2000-2200 calories. He was consuming in excess of 5000. Every 3500 in excess of what you need will gain you an extra pound of fat. Basically every day and a half, he was gaining a pound of fat.

Exercise isn't a magic pill that you can take to magically keep the weight off. You have to combine it with a sensible diet as well.

The "McLes" diet that I posted earlier is the one you were refering to. In those 30 days, Les was more reasonable in his eating and was only consuming around 2500-2600 calories a day and combinding it with exercise.

At that caloric intake, he was easily staying within a weight maintainin or even weight loss state because of what his body naturally burned each day and what he was burning off extra from exercise.

People often overestimate how many calories they think they are burning from exercise. A 30 minute walk won't even cover a 12oz non-diet cola. A 30 minute run will barely cover a snickers bar.

Exercise alone is not an equalizer.

 

[Jon855]

i don;t eat there ever, I rather BK over the clown any day.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Jon855
i don;t eat there ever, I rather BK over the clown any day.

BK's food is no "healthier" than McDonald's. In fact, it's exactly the same thing.

A side note:

People like to blame McDonald's for the fast food craze and increased portion sizes, when it was BK that started the size wars. The whopper predates the quarter pounder and the double whopper LONG predates the double quarter pounder. BK also led the fry wars introducing larger sizes first.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
He only got fat because he didn't exercise at all. I read a story where a teacher did the same thing except he exercised a decent amount. At the end of the month they were the same weight as at the start.

He got fat because he was consuming more than double the calories that his body needed. His body needed around 2000-2200 calories. He was consuming in excess of 5000. Every 3500 in excess of what you need will gain you an extra pound of fat. Basically every day and a half, he was gaining a pound of fat.

Exercise isn't a magic pill that you can take to magically keep the weight off. You have to combine it with a sensible diet as well.

The "McLes" diet that I posted earlier is the one you were refering to. In those 30 days, Les was more reasonable in his eating and was only consuming around 2500-2600 calories a day and combinding it with exercise.

At that caloric intake, he was easily staying within a weight maintainin or even weight loss state because of what his body naturally burned each day and what he was burning off extra from exercise.

People often overestimate how many calories they think they are burning from exercise. A 30 minute walk won't even cover a 12oz non-diet cola. A 30 minute run will barely cover a snickers bar.

Exercise alone is not an equalizer.

Amen to that. My treadmill displays how many calories I have burned as I use the thing and it is depressingly low for the amount of effort.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Linflas

Amen to that. My treadmill displays how many calories I have burned as I use the thing and it is depressingly low for the amount of effort.

Don't be depressed.

Cardio continues to burn calories for up to an hour after stopping. Also, the other positive health effects are far reaching and rewarding.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
He only got fat because he didn't exercise at all. I read a story where a teacher did the same thing except he exercised a decent amount. At the end of the month they were the same weight as at the start.

He got fat because he was consuming more than double the calories that his body needed. His body needed around 2000-2200 calories. He was consuming in excess of 5000. Every 3500 in excess of what you need will gain you an extra pound of fat. Basically every day and a half, he was gaining a pound of fat.

Exercise isn't a magic pill that you can take to magically keep the weight off. You have to combine it with a sensible diet as well.

The "McLes" diet that I posted earlier is the one you were refering to. In those 30 days, Les was more reasonable in his eating and was only consuming around 2500-2600 calories a day and combinding it with exercise.

At that caloric intake, he was easily staying within a weight maintainin or even weight loss state because of what his body naturally burned each day and what he was burning off extra from exercise.

People often overestimate how many calories they think they are burning from exercise. A 30 minute walk won't even cover a 12oz non-diet cola. A 30 minute run will barely cover a snickers bar.

Exercise alone is not an equalizer.

His consumption was based on McDonald's "Meals". He ate what they packaged as a meal, nothing more unless they offered to Super-Size his order. Which I'll point out again only happened twice during the entire month.

Somehow some you guys think that modern technology in food preperation somehow trumps nature in nutritional value. Guess what, nature never had a recommended serving size, McDonald's does and if you eat there 3 times a day it's 5000+ calories. And this doesn't even cover the long term effects of trans fat, etc.

What it comes down to is that some people find answers at the bottom of the pill bottle, in engineered food, or in some TV infomercial. I've personally became much healthier when I cut out all refined grains and sugars and added all natural foods. As you can see I wouldn't even eat the damn McDonald's bun, not to mention any other part of it. I also don't take Prozac or any other modern life extending miracle pills. I'll be lucky if I reach 32 years of age at this rate.

Exercise and eat well, not too complicated.

 

[Gravity]

Good movie. Everthing's good in moderation, right? You wouldn't want to....well...have sex everyday for 30 days, would you? Who will volunteer to take the test? Hmm???

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
He only got fat because he didn't exercise at all. I read a story where a teacher did the same thing except he exercised a decent amount. At the end of the month they were the same weight as at the start.

He got fat because he was consuming more than double the calories that his body needed. His body needed around 2000-2200 calories. He was consuming in excess of 5000. Every 3500 in excess of what you need will gain you an extra pound of fat. Basically every day and a half, he was gaining a pound of fat.

Exercise isn't a magic pill that you can take to magically keep the weight off. You have to combine it with a sensible diet as well.

The "McLes" diet that I posted earlier is the one you were refering to. In those 30 days, Les was more reasonable in his eating and was only consuming around 2500-2600 calories a day and combinding it with exercise.

At that caloric intake, he was easily staying within a weight maintainin or even weight loss state because of what his body naturally burned each day and what he was burning off extra from exercise.

People often overestimate how many calories they think they are burning from exercise. A 30 minute walk won't even cover a 12oz non-diet cola. A 30 minute run will barely cover a snickers bar.

Exercise alone is not an equalizer.

His consumption was based on McDonald's "Meals". He ate what they packaged as a meal, nothing more unless they offered to Super-Size his order. Which I'll point out again only happened twice during the entire month.

Somehow some you guys think that modern technology in food preperation somehow trumps nature in nutritional value. Guess what, nature never had a recommended serving size, McDonald's does and if you eat there 3 times a day it's 5000+ calories. And this doesn't even cover the long term effects of trans fat, etc.

What it comes down to is that some people find answers at the bottom of the pill bottle, in engineered food, or in some TV infomercial. I've personally became much healthier when I cut out all refined grains and sugars and added all natural foods. As you can see I wouldn't even eat the damn McDonald's bun, not to mention any other part of it. I also don't take Prozac or any other modern life extending miracle pills. I'll be lucky if I reach 32 years of age at this rate.

Exercise and eat well, not too complicated.

What part of "he ate when he wasn't hungry," and "ate past the point of being full," and "ate 3-5 times his normal calorie intake" and "ate to the point of feeling physically ill" did you NOT understand?

Who gives a rat fsck what he ordered or how? The point is, he ordered when he wasn;t hungry, ate ALL of his food, even WAY past feeling full.

No normal person does that.

People eat at McDonald's type food daily. If his symptoms were indicative of this practice, we would have an epidemic of liver failure in this country. We do not. Why? Because people aren't force feeding themselves like geese stuffed and farmed for Foie Gras.

 

[xTYBALTx]

Eating too much of ANYTHING for 30 days straight is going to be bad for you. It doesn't matter if your calories come from Big Macs or from bean sprouts and tofu. If you triple your caloric intake and intentionally stop exercising entirely, you're going to get fat. Who on earth is dumb enough to need a documentary to understand that or gullible enough to think that overeating at McDonalds is worse than overeating anything else?

QFT

 

[xTYBALTx]

So could a person live off the McDonalds menu? And be healthy, of course.

What is it that makes something served at McDonalds intrinsically unhealthy? McDonalds serves food from all of the food groups, and their menu has sufficient variety to satisfy all of your body's nutritional needs.

So, in answer to your question, yes. Absolutely.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
He only got fat because he didn't exercise at all. I read a story where a teacher did the same thing except he exercised a decent amount. At the end of the month they were the same weight as at the start.

He got fat because he was consuming more than double the calories that his body needed. His body needed around 2000-2200 calories. He was consuming in excess of 5000. Every 3500 in excess of what you need will gain you an extra pound of fat. Basically every day and a half, he was gaining a pound of fat.

Exercise isn't a magic pill that you can take to magically keep the weight off. You have to combine it with a sensible diet as well.

The "McLes" diet that I posted earlier is the one you were refering to. In those 30 days, Les was more reasonable in his eating and was only consuming around 2500-2600 calories a day and combinding it with exercise.

At that caloric intake, he was easily staying within a weight maintainin or even weight loss state because of what his body naturally burned each day and what he was burning off extra from exercise.

People often overestimate how many calories they think they are burning from exercise. A 30 minute walk won't even cover a 12oz non-diet cola. A 30 minute run will barely cover a snickers bar.

Exercise alone is not an equalizer.

His consumption was based on McDonald's "Meals". He ate what they packaged as a meal, nothing more unless they offered to Super-Size his order. Which I'll point out again only happened twice during the entire month.

Somehow some you guys think that modern technology in food preperation somehow trumps nature in nutritional value. Guess what, nature never had a recommended serving size, McDonald's does and if you eat there 3 times a day it's 5000+ calories. And this doesn't even cover the long term effects of trans fat, etc.

What it comes down to is that some people find answers at the bottom of the pill bottle, in engineered food, or in some TV infomercial. I've personally became much healthier when I cut out all refined grains and sugars and added all natural foods. As you can see I wouldn't even eat the damn McDonald's bun, not to mention any other part of it. I also don't take Prozac or any other modern life extending miracle pills. I'll be lucky if I reach 32 years of age at this rate.

Exercise and eat well, not too complicated.

What part of "he ate when he wasn't hungry," and "ate past the point of being full," and "ate 3-5 times his normal calorie intake" and "ate to the point of feeling physically ill" did you NOT understand?

Who gives a rat fsck what he ordered or how? The point is, he ordered when he wasn;t hungry, ate ALL of his food, even WAY past feeling full.

No normal person does that.

People eat at McDonald's type food daily. If his symptoms were indicative of this practice, we would have an epidemic of liver failure in this country. We do not. Why? Because people aren't force feeding themselves like geese stuffed and farmed for Foie Gras.

Judging from the poll results you're wasting your time trying to talk sense to about 50% of the posters in this thread. They actually accept propaganda at face value with no critical examination of what was presented to them in that film.

 

[spacejamz]

Judging from the poll results you're wasting your time trying to talk sense to about 50% of the posters in this thread. They actually accept propaganda at face value with no critical examination of what was presented to them in that film.

WINNAR!!!

 

[imported_blablabla]

For those of you that say: change a few things about the "experiment" and the results will be different/better("normal" like having about the same weight at the end of the program)..I just have a few things to say about that:

My best friend: Beutiful girl, even better in a bikini... FAT?.... HELL NO!..... one day she ended up in the hospital... why?... her weight didnt mean sh!t.... her caloric intake was fine, sometimes even below recommened, and she did exercise.. it was the QUALITY of the stuff she was eating that was hurting her... "ocasionally"(more like 2-3 times a week) she would eat too much mayo on her fries, or chocolate or soda... she was admitted bc she has anemia symptoms... she wasnt getting the nutrients she needed to be healthy.. she is "fine" now... its been 2 or 3 years since she complete banned mayo from her diet... among other steps towards a health lifestyle..

The reason why I am writing this is bc even if at the end of the documentary spurlock had ended up with the same weight..thats only 1 measurement of the results... wouldnt you agree that if you change your diet to high carbohydrates and sat. fats(even if you dont eat McD).. your body fat % would increase, your cholesterol, heart, strengh, stamina & even sex life would be negatively affected?...

The mirror doesnt always show what really counts.... you could be thin and "beautiful" and have your arteries clogged with fat...

 

[xTYBALTx]

OMFGBBQ~!!!!@#!@ Eat mayo 3 times week and you will go to the hospital!!! I KNOW!! It happened to my friend and shes hot!

Seriously though. Does mayo suck the nutrients out of your body? Does it have properties, previously unknown to the world, by which is acts as a veritable "black hole" of nutrition, snatching precious vitamins from your body and banishing them to the land of wind and dust?

And blablabla, no one is saying to eat lots of saturated fats. What myself (and others) have said is that eating McDonald's every day is NOT unhealthy for the average person if you follow simple common sense guidelines.

 

[Randum]

Originally posted by: Looney
I actually had a craving for McD from watching it.

yeah me and my friends went and got McDs after watching it, made us so hungry..

its a movie that got attention, its the new "fictional" documentaries, they are more of whatever the director wants it to be, aka MICHAEL MOORE, sure its true...but how was it arranged for the viewer?

 

[imported_blablabla]

Originally posted by: xTYBALTx
OMFGBBQ~!!!!@#!@ Eat mayo 3 times week and you will go to the hospital!!! I KNOW!! It happened to my friend and shes hot!

Seriously though. Does mayo suck the nutrients out of your body? Does it have properties, previously unknown to the world, by which is acts as a veritable "black hole" of nutrition, snatching precious vitamins from your body and banishing them to the land of wind and dust?

And blablabla, no one is saying to eat lots of saturated fats. What myself (and others) have said is that eating McDonald's every day is NOT unhealthy for the average person if you follow simple common sense guidelines.

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just to clarify... at a seating.. just with her medium fries, she would use 4, sometimes 5 mayo sachets... I am not saying "OMFGBBQ~!!!!@#!@ Eat mayo 3 times week and you will go to the hospital!!! I KNOW!! It happened to my friend and shes hot! ".... my post was directed towards not looking ONLY at weight as a indication of the condition of your health...

and dont worry about "my hot friend"... she is fine....what I wrote before is not bs... take it anyway you want.... but try to eat healthy(ier)....

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: blablabla

Originally posted by: xTYBALTx
OMFGBBQ~!!!!@#!@ Eat mayo 3 times week and you will go to the hospital!!! I KNOW!! It happened to my friend and shes hot!

Seriously though. Does mayo suck the nutrients out of your body? Does it have properties, previously unknown to the world, by which is acts as a veritable "black hole" of nutrition, snatching precious vitamins from your body and banishing them to the land of wind and dust?

And blablabla, no one is saying to eat lots of saturated fats. What myself (and others) have said is that eating McDonald's every day is NOT unhealthy for the average person if you follow simple common sense guidelines.

----
just to clarify... at a seating.. just with her medium fries, she would use 4, sometimes 5 mayo sachets... I am not saying "OMFGBBQ~!!!!@#!@ Eat mayo 3 times week and you will go to the hospital!!! I KNOW!! It happened to my friend and shes hot! ".... my post was directed towards not looking ONLY at weight as a indication of the condition of your health...

and dont worry about "my hot friend"... she is fine....what I wrote before is not bs... take it anyway you want.... but try to eat healthy(ier)....

My guess would be that she was genetically predisposed to whatever condition put her in the hospital. Some people can eat that much mayo and be just fine.

 

[Legend]

What is it that makes something served at McDonalds intrinsically unhealthy? McDonalds serves food from all of the food groups, and their menu has sufficient variety to satisfy all of your body's nutritional needs.

So, in answer to your question, yes. Absolutely.

Believe what you will, but Mcdonalds does not have enough variety and quality to sustain a healthy life.

For example, there's almost no omega 3 fats or monosaturated fats in any of the foods. Instead, transfats and saturated fats. That's not healthy.

Where's the folic acid? Lycopene? Zinc, potassium, beta carotene, lutein, vitamins B1-B12? You must have these to be truly healthy.

Or how about iron? How many burgers would you have to eat to get enough iron? Several, as beef is the only thing on their menu with iron it seems. You'd go anemic.



This man clearly stuffed himself to bring on serious weight gain, but to say eating Mcdonalds all the time can sustain a healthy life is quite wrong.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Legend

What is it that makes something served at McDonalds intrinsically unhealthy? McDonalds serves food from all of the food groups, and their menu has sufficient variety to satisfy all of your body's nutritional needs.

So, in answer to your question, yes. Absolutely.

Believe what you will, but Mcdonalds does not have enough variety and quality to sustain a healthy life.

For example, there's almost no omega 3 fats or monosaturated fats in any of the foods. Instead, transfats and saturated fats. That's not healthy.

Where's the folic acid? Lycopene? Zinc, potassium, beta carotene, lutein, vitamins B1-B12? You must have these to be truly healthy.

Or how about iron? How many burgers would you have to eat to get enough iron? Several, as beef is the only thing on their menu with iron it seems. You'd go anemic.



This man clearly stuffed himself to bring on serious weight gain, but to say eating Mcdonalds all the time can sustain a healthy life is quite wrong.

What percent of Amercian's even get those things you list though a non-fast food diet? Eating out of a box or a microwave like a large number of people do isn't any better. Hot dogs, mac & cheese, cold cut sandwiches, PB&J, ect. They have none of the items you list but people eat them as a staple of their diet day in and day out.