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I'm surprised that there isn't a Chinese vaccine yet tbh. They are snoopy buggers and they aren't worried about testing stuff out on people at the earliest opportunity.That's what you've got?
I'm surprised that there isn't a Chinese vaccine yet tbh. They are snoopy buggers and they aren't worried about testing stuff out on people at the earliest opportunity.That's what you've got?
Wouldn't creating a vaccine imply that they cared about people getting sick and dying?I'm surprised that there isn't a Chinese vaccine yet tbh. They are snoopy buggers and they aren't worried about testing stuff out on people at the earliest opportunity.
Are you actually saying that it didn't originate in the wuhan lab?
Wouldn't creating a vaccine imply that they cared about people getting sick and dying?
I'm surprised that there isn't a Chinese vaccine yet
Well they locked people up in their own homes to stop it spreading around so I think they definitely don't want it spreading. Whether that's because they don't want a knock to the economy, worry about party members or that they are actually concerned for citizens is besides the point really.Wouldn't creating a vaccine imply that they cared about people getting sick and dying?
I've never seen anything that makes me think the Chinese government considers the general population to be anything more than livestock.Well they locked people up in their own homes to stop it spreading around so I think they definitely don't want it spreading. Whether that's because they don't want a knock to the economy, worry about party members or that they are actually concerned for citizens is besides the point really.
I've never seen anything that makes me think the Chinese government considers the general population to be anything more than livestock.
Some would, doesn't make it true.Some would say the same about the US. Especially under Trump.
Some would, doesn't make it true.
Why bother developing their own vaccine when they can just steal someone else's work?I'm surprised that there isn't a Chinese vaccine yet tbh. They are snoopy buggers and they aren't worried about testing stuff out on people at the earliest opportunity.
Why bother developing their own vaccine when they can just steal someone else's work?
That was debunked eons ago, but that doesn't stop Trump humpers from claiming "well anything's possible."I thought that the theory of the virus being "created" in the Wuhan lab was pretty much discredited at this point?
There are multiple Chinese candidate vaccines, some are in phase 3 trials. IIRC they have already administered more vaccine doses domestically than the rest of world, combined; although the U.S. campaign is just starting and ramping quickly. There probably aren't many countries willing to buy a Chinese vaccine on the open market, and I haven't read any data on efficacy. It's probably more likely China will give free doses to the poorest countries to burnish its public image.Per the link I posted above supposedly there IS a Chinese vaccine.
No comment on how they came up with it since I have no idea.
They are just a bit selective about who they consider "proper" citizens.I've never seen anything that makes me think the Chinese government considers the general population to be anything more than livestock.
It's definitely not restricted to the UK. It's supposed to very similar to the variant that they found in European minks a while back.Back to the thread topic - without the politics - the new strain has popped up in Denmark, the
Netherlands and one case in Australia. As Welshbloke said in the OP, "Looks like it isn't any more dangerous if you get it it's just that you are more likely to get it." We don't need MORE people getting it. Not when we're so close to vaccinations. Mask up. Stay home. For a little while longer.
WHO: England’s new Covid-19 variant picked up in Denmark, the Netherlands, Australia
The coronavirus pandemic has brought countries to a standstill. Meanwhile, vaccinations have already started in some countries as cases continue to rise. Follow here for the latest.www.cnn.com
Why bother developing their own vaccine when they can just steal someone else's work?
Because, snoopy buggers.Per the link I posted above supposedly there IS a Chinese vaccine.
No comment on how they came up with it since I have no idea.
I thought that the theory of the virus being "created" in the Wuhan lab was pretty much discredited at this point?
I think they were studying it in the lab, they harvested it from "the wild," possibly after it was already in the human population.It came out of a Wuhan lab, it just wasn't created there.
A lab escape is easier for a lot of people to believe than something that every epidemiologist said would eventually happen again indeed happening again. Every story needs a villain and not a lot of people desire to view the current situation as consequences for our own lack of preparation and action.
If I was an evil regime and wanted to fuck over geopolitical rivals, I would release a contagion upon my own people first and then putz around for an entire month!Why would the Chinese create a deadly virus in a lab? You saw what happened in Wuhan and subsequent Chinese New Year? You think they created a deadly virus for jollies? Wise up, mofo.
I think they were studying it in the lab, they harvested it from "the wild," possibly after it was already in the human population.
Thing is this was (or something similar) going to happen regardless of wet markets or lab conspiracy theories.I would say the idea that this came from a wet market is a far easier scape goat due to the barbaric nature of these markets and their brutal impact on threatened species. That falls in line nicely with my personal beliefs and moral code.
And if my entire economy was based on exporting stuff I'd definitely lock up my entire workforce for awhile and shut my ports!If I was an evil regime and wanted to fuck over geopolitical rivals, I would release a contagion upon my own people first and then putz around for an entire month!
Back to the thread topic - without the politics - the new strain has popped up in Denmark, the
Netherlands and one case in Australia. As Welshbloke said in the OP, "Looks like it isn't any more dangerous if you get it it's just that you are more likely to get it." We don't need MORE people getting it. Not when we're so close to vaccinations. Mask up. Stay home. For a little while longer.
WHO: England’s new Covid-19 variant picked up in Denmark, the Netherlands, Australia
The coronavirus pandemic has brought countries to a standstill. Meanwhile, vaccinations have already started in some countries as cases continue to rise. Follow here for the latest.www.cnn.com