Superman vs Spiderman

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TheNinja

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I'm sure Michael Dudikoff, the american ninja, would kick both their butts. But between the two I'd say superman for sure.
 

Riceball

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Silver Surfer > Green Latern
Thor > Supes
Supes > Spiderman
Batman > Supes
Thanos+infinity gaunlet > supes

The Supes v Spiderman was a oneshot comic released back in the 80s check your local comic shop's back issue bin.
 

Kibbo

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Originally posted by: redly1
the thing that really creeps me out is the new "Spiderman and Friends" toys.

WTF !?!
Spiderman doesn't have any friends!! And if he did, the Incredible Hulk would definately NOT be one of them.

Spiderman has been a reserve member of the Avengers for years. Hulk is a founding member. Could be they hooked up at one of the annual BBQs.
 

RgrPark

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In Avengers/JLA (2004), they match up Superman and Thor.
They trade punches and Superman lays on the heat vision.
Thor walks through the heat vision and swings mjolnir down at Superman.
Superman catchs/blocks Thor's swing and does an uppercut and knocks out Thor.
End of fight.

In Dc Vs Marvel,
Superman fights The Hulk.
The Hulk's strength increases with his rage and it limitless. However, before the HUlk can really get angry, Supes knocks him out by punching him through a few mountains.

Captain AMerica fights Batman a few times...
they are evenly matched while fighting hand to hand, and Batman suggests that Cap might even take him if the fight continued on. However, they stop fighting because its pointless.

Spiderman can beat both Cap and Batman since both Cap and Bats are human at best.
A better match for Spidey would be Midnighter or even Deathstroke.

Even though Thor is considered the main strong guy for Marvel, there are a whole bunch of stronger chracters.

Kurse would probably rank as one of the strongest.
Kurse was a villain who fought Thor while Beyonder watched (Beyonder=omnipotent being).
Beyonder increased Kurse's strength, which Thor negated by putting his belt of strength which doubled his strength. Beyonder then increased Kurse's strength to a point where he was pummeliong Thor who had double his normal strength. Kurse turns into a good guy and is killed off by incompetent Marvel writers in recent Thor comic..they don't even explain how he died when he can probably kill pretty much anyone.

Gladiator, the leader of the Marvel Imperial Guard is identical to DC's superman. Strength, invulnerability, speed, heat vision, etc. However, since he's never a main character, he gets his butt kicked often by idiot writers.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Wag
Originally posted by: amoeba
I think the best marvel matchup for Superman would be The Silver Surfer.

I think that matchup would go the distance.
Silver Surfer vs Green Lantern was pretty good. They're pretty evenly matched.

Supes vs Thor would probably be equivalent.

They did it in the JLA Avengers cross over. Wasn't bad. ;)
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: benchiu
Man this thread wants me to start reading comic books again. Any good graphic novels you guys can recommend?

If you want classics:
Sandman

If you want newer things that might blow your mind:
Preacher
Transmetropolitan

If you want ongoing things:
The Authority
100 Bullets
Losers
 

Wag

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Spiderman can beat both Cap and Batman since both Cap and Bats are human at best.
Cap is "enhanced". If you recall his origins he was ordinary until taking "Super Strength" serum (along with the Red Skull).
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: RgrPark
In Avengers/JLA (2004), they match up Superman and Thor.
They trade punches and Superman lays on the heat vision.
Thor walks through the heat vision and swings mjolnir down at Superman.
Superman catchs/blocks Thor's swing and does an uppercut and knocks out Thor.
End of fight.

In Dc Vs Marvel,
Superman fights The Hulk.
The Hulk's strength increases with his rage and it limitless. However, before the HUlk can really get angry, Supes knocks him out by punching him through a few mountains.

Captain AMerica fights Batman a few times...
they are evenly matched while fighting hand to hand, and Batman suggests that Cap might even take him if the fight continued on. However, they stop fighting because its pointless.

Spiderman can beat both Cap and Batman since both Cap and Bats are human at best.
A better match for Spidey would be Midnighter or even Deathstroke.

Even though Thor is considered the main strong guy for Marvel, there are a whole bunch of stronger chracters.

Kurse would probably rank as one of the strongest.
Kurse was a villain who fought Thor while Beyonder watched (Beyonder=omnipotent being).
Beyonder increased Kurse's strength, which Thor negated by putting his belt of strength which doubled his strength. Beyonder then increased Kurse's strength to a point where he was pummeliong Thor who had double his normal strength. Kurse turns into a good guy and is killed off by incompetent Marvel writers in recent Thor comic..they don't even explain how he died when he can probably kill pretty much anyone.

Gladiator, the leader of the Marvel Imperial Guard is identical to DC's superman. Strength, invulnerability, speed, heat vision, etc. However, since he's never a main character, he gets his butt kicked often by idiot writers.

Spiderman couldn't beat Batman. And the Midnighter would tear him apart.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Wag
Spiderman can beat both Cap and Batman since both Cap and Bats are human at best.
Cap is "enhanced". If you recall his origins he was ordinary until taking "Super Strength" serum (along with the Red Skull).

Blacks were used as the original test subjects, in fact the original captain america was black. ;)

There was a comic about that. Great read. :)
 

Riceball

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Actually Hyperion of the squadron Supreme is marvel's equivalent to Superman, I understand if you never heard of him.

I still think Thor could defeat Superman conisdering how vulnerable supes is to magic. If Thor was smart enough to bathe a area in lighting it would be game over.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Riceball
Actually Hyperion of the squadron Supreme is marvel's equivalent to Superman, I understand if you never heard of him.

I still think Thor could defeat Superman conisdering how vulnerable supes is to magic. If Thor was smart enough to bathe a area in lighting it would be game over.

Fortunately, you're wrong. :p
 

Wag

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Actually Hyperion of the squadron Supreme is marvel's equivalent to Superman, I understand if you never heard of him.
Squadron Supreme is a take-off on DC's Justice League, so not really a valid comparison.

How about Batman vs The Punisher?
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Wag
Actually Hyperion of the squadron Supreme is marvel's equivalent to Superman, I understand if you never heard of him.
Squadron Supreme is a take-off on DC's Justice League, so not really a valid comparison.

How about Batman vs The Punisher?

Batman wins. The Punisher is cool and has one of the best authors working on him now, but Batman just 0wns.

Batman vs. Midnighter would be a good contest though. I think the Midnighter would lose that one. :shocked:
 

Riceball

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Riceball
Actually Hyperion of the squadron Supreme is marvel's equivalent to Superman, I understand if you never heard of him.

I still think Thor could defeat Superman conisdering how vulnerable supes is to magic. If Thor was smart enough to bathe a area in lighting it would be game over.

Fortunately, you're wrong. :p

Ha! Well Shazam was doing a decent job of lighting the S-man up in Kingdom Come not much of a stretch for Blondie to do the same.

 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Riceball
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: Riceball
Actually Hyperion of the squadron Supreme is marvel's equivalent to Superman, I understand if you never heard of him.

I still think Thor could defeat Superman conisdering how vulnerable supes is to magic. If Thor was smart enough to bathe a area in lighting it would be game over.

Fortunately, you're wrong. :p

Ha! Well Shazam was doing a decent job of lighting the S-man up in Kingdom Come not much of a stretch for Blondie to do the same.

RgrPark summed it up pretty well in their last encounter. ;)
 

Riceball

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Originally posted by: Wag
Actually Hyperion of the squadron Supreme is marvel's equivalent to Superman, I understand if you never heard of him.
Squadron Supreme is a take-off on DC's Justice League, so not really a valid comparison.

How about Batman vs The Punisher?

Batman slap the Punisher around off panel in the Avengers/JLA crossover.

 

Riceball

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RgrPark summed it up pretty well in their last encounter. ;)[/quote]

That's just bad Busiek writing hehe

 

Riceball

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Possibly, but even if you got the greats in there they would be on Superman's side. ;)[/quote]

Everyone loves an underdog :beer::D:beer:
 

RgrPark

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Originally posted by: Wag
Spiderman can beat both Cap and Batman since both Cap and Bats are human at best.
Cap is "enhanced". If you recall his origins he was ordinary until taking "Super Strength" serum (along with the Red Skull).


Are you talking about the super soldier serum?
If you are, the super soldier serums makes the person operate at MAX human capacity.
He would be the best a human being can ever be...still a human.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: RgrPark
Originally posted by: Wag
Spiderman can beat both Cap and Batman since both Cap and Bats are human at best.
Cap is "enhanced". If you recall his origins he was ordinary until taking "Super Strength" serum (along with the Red Skull).


Are you talking about the super soldier serum?
If you are, the super soldier serums makes the person operate at MAX human capacity.
He would be the best a human being can ever be...still a human.

Despite the limits Batman pushes himself to, he's still less than the MAX a human can be.