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moshquerade
No Lifer
Yeh, I'm just expressing my opinion from my personal view too. After seeing his frat house, versus the dorm, he is in so much better of a place.
Oh, and he didn't have to pay big dues and wait to live in the house. He got right in. He's billed right through the college for everything (frat room and board) and it's comparable to how much it cost to live in the dorm + meal plan.
Gooberlx2
Lifer
Or be an entrepreneur. My roomies and I would throw house parties (up until we got caught). Upfront costs were a couple to a few hundred bucks on booze and cups, but if your house has the space and reputation for a lot of foot traffic, at $5 per head it was easily recouped. It consistently paid for our rent and some toys for better part of two semesters.
Basically you just have to attract the girls. And to do that you make shit tons of jello shots and WOP, combined with decent party music. (and of course all shots were extra $1 each...or $4 for five shots).
Even when we got caught, the fines through the local PD and landlord were only about one night's take. It was the threat of being evicted that made us simmer down.
Ns1
No Lifer
college party =/= frat party
Frat party =
dj's, stages, fencing, porta potty, security, kegs, hards
<--- former president/treasurer
I know a thing or two about fraternal finances.
Parties
kegs = 76 bucks each, usually buy 6-8 for a medium/large party
fencing = 400
security = 400-800
cups/ice/etc supplies = 150
jungle juice - 4/4/8, so 8 handles of vodka per container of JJ = ~110 bucks, x 3 or 4 tubs of jungle juice
+ additional hard liquor if you want to get crazy
we had a spotlight for a few years, 400 bucks out the door
and then (we) had weekly exchanges, so those were about 500 bucks a pop....
then you got dues for whatever council you're in, fraternal fees such as yearbook, events that you gotta go to, etc. then you gotta pay for the house. and then supplies for the goddamn house. and then you gotta pay for for supplies you need during pledging. and so on, and so forth.
If you don't see where the dues money goes that's fine, but houses are rarely swimming in money. I fronted so much money those years it's not even funny.
Brainonska511
Lifer
That's your idea of a frat party? At my school, a frat party consists of paying about $5 and getting tons of PBR or NattieLight in cans and the place smelling like smoke and being extremely crowded. All staffing is performed by the brothers of the frat. Sometimes, you get lucky and the party isn't so packed and they have hard liquor and mixed drinks for free after you pay the $5 at the door.
Anubis
No Lifer
ok then see here we have a perfect example of massive difference in what happens from school to school, my sister was 3 years ahead of me in school so i basicially have 7 years of expirence with college/fart parties, and not a single one at either of the schools we went to was as involved as what you just described
never seen a DJ at a frat party. ever
not everyone goes to a large university which im assuming you goto/went to
what Brainonska511 described is basicially what all frat parties were, yes some much nice then others but youget the basic idea
Gooberlx2
Lifer
No, that sounds about right. Sounds exactly like one of our house parties..substitute cans for kegs. Add in piss and vomit in the unfurnished dungeon of a basement and the cost of cleaning supplies for the next day. We did hire friends to monitor the police bands, and even a couple guys (wrestlers or football players) for security occasionally, for the big weekends like St. Pattys, Mardi Gras, Halloween, New Years, etc... And hard liquor was never free...unless friendly kisses were exchanged or boobs were flashed.
Frats and regular houses did basically the same thing. But my school wasn't huge and the frats weren't loaded or important. I'm sure things are different at larger/rich schools, where frats have a larger presence.
...ahh...good times.
alkemyst
No Lifer
A college 'frat' is really just a dorm off-campus. Nice for the parents.
IMHO living in a dorm the first year at least is an experience everyone should have. There is so much crap you can do when you have tons of chicks all over the place. Off campus you are either living in a single sexed building or a mix with everyone else.
If someone isn't going to school to have fun though at the same time, they should just save up for their own place and never leave it or their classrooms.
Most of the real frats are out of the budgets of most of those going to school. Which is great for keeping those of a lower class out from the start.
CraKaJaX
Lifer
Security? WTF kind of security are you talking for $800? Sign me up. Of ALL the houses I know, brothers have shifts of being at the door, watching for cops, etc. They don't pay for security. Jungle Juice is no where NEAR worth the money -- it's fucking garbage. Fencing? What the hell did you need fencing for. I don't think I know a single house that has had a party that required a stage nor a dj. I guess your house was l33t.
Ns1
No Lifer
security was required by the campus. we had to pick up 4-6 guards + metal detectors. they also take payment in cash. up front. did I also mention some guy got shanked at one of our parties a few years back? lol
Most of the houses at my school got fences to fence off the yarded area. That way people can chill and socialize outside. stage in teh back, which teh dj goes on top of.
JJ is NOT worth the money, but the chicks drink it. Alot.
As another poster mentioned above, maybe it's the difference between the campus I went to and the campus you went to.
Anubis
No Lifer
what size school did you go to? because im 100% positive this is where your missunderstanding comes from, i went to a small school but i know what is being spoken about here in terms of size of party and what is required
just think about those college movies that have parties, the do happen IRL
CraKaJaX
Lifer
Around 5k students. Pretty small compared to most. I'm not misunderstanding anything, I just haven't heard of any house here requiring security, or having fencing put up for privacy -- all of them are mostly indoors unless it's some kind of BBQ or something.. but those aren't really "open" parties for anyone to stop by.
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