Stupid cops.. I'm filing a complaint. So they can pull you over for whatever now?

[SagaLore]

Make sure you give us a followup post after you've filed everything, I'm interested to see how this turns out.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Make sure you give us a followup post after you've filed everything, I'm interested to see how this turns out.

He wont.

 

[Armitage]

All you cop-haters should take a vacations to Somalia or some other 3rd world hell-hole where there are no cops or rule of law.
Experience that true freedom you seem to crave so much.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Millennium


I actually think brxndxn got off lucky. If I would have been the officer I would have written the ticket and then hung out in the parking lot. When brxndxn confronted me I would have told him to get back in the car and call dispatch in the morning. When he refused and became belligerent I would have pepper sprayed him and handcuffed him. I would have then taken him to the station and arrested him for disorderly conduct, public intox, refusal to obey a peace officer, resisting arrest, and harassment. I guarantee the DA would have pressed charges on every count. I then would have the DA's office lobbed by the Police Officer's Union and the FOP to NOT plea bargain. a few felonies and a few years in prison would not look good. Then again, I will admit I would have been an asshole, but brxndxn was one first. Never be an asshole to a cop. You always lose. It may not always be right or deserving of the person, but every action has a reaction. It is the simple truth when dealing with someone who has a high stress job and is used to getting attacked by the public. How many drunk and disorderlies has that officer already answered that night? How many people give him lip and try to get him fired over him DOING his JOB? People hate the police, so why can't the police do the same in kind? It isn't right but they are HUMAN just like everyone else. Sure, they are held to a higher standard, but HOW high?

You go into that description like it would be okay to take those actions, or like it's okay for the police to bother innocent people because they have to deal with guilty people. The police have a high stress job. So? That's irrelevant when it comes to them abusing their power. Should I be understanding and take it when they turn their abuse towards me? Their job is to protect people and save lives. So? Should they be excused when instead of protecting people, they are harrassing them? Becoming a police officer is an honor and a choice. If an officer can't handle the stress without becoming corrupt, then he needs to find another job where he can handle the stress levels.

I don't want to hold the police to a higher standard, I want to hold them to an identical standard as everyone else. When they do something wrong, they should get punished for it. When an accountant does his math wrong, he'll probably get fired. When a police officer doesn't follow the law he's supposed to enforce, he should be fired. Let's say a little girl's dad has a high stress job. Most of the time he feeds her and takes care of her. Other times he comes home mad and starts whaling on her with a metal rod for no reason. Is the metal rod ever justified because he does good most of the time and his life is hard? I wouldn't excuse my dad or my wife for things that the cops get away with. Why would I excuse and feel sympathy for them.

The most maddening part is the blue wall. People always point out that most cops are good. I can agree with that. Most of them don't shoot innocent people and aren't blatantly racist. However, as you admitted, if you file a complaint against a bad cop there will be retaliation by the other cops. The same way a person can be an accessory after the fact, police who refuse to speak out about the abuses they see or who retaliate against complaint filers, are complicit in the original abuse. If most police really are good, and want to be recognized as such, they need to help kick the bad ones out of the department. Instead they cover it up and let the bad ones keep going out on patrol and represent them.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: xirtam
It's the question you should be asking yourself. Sometimes you can do something wrong or have something wrong with your car without knowing it. The cop will ask you if you know why he pulled you over. If you don't know, then you can say that then. IMO there would have been no abuse of power if the attitude was passive and accepting to begin with. If the cop truly stopped you for no reason, you can file a complaint. But let the cop make that evident first to you so that you can make it evident to the court. As it stands, your record in the situation sucks. Oh, and arguing about the speed with the officer is never a wise idea. The cop's not there to pronounce judgment -- only to bring you to someone who can decide the just way of dealing with a possible infraction. Don't add fuel to the fire.

Once you're in court, the judge will almost always give the police officer the benefit of the doubt, regardless of whether or not he trumped up the speed. The burdon of innocence is on you. You must prove that you weren't speeding.

I agree, arguing with the cops usually won't get you anywhere, but relying soley on the judge to dismiss the ticket is equally stupid.

 

[necro702]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: Millennium

The most maddening part is the blue wall. People always point out that most cops are good. I can agree with that. Most of them don't shoot innocent people and aren't blatantly racist. However, as you admitted, if you file a complaint against a bad cop there will be retaliation by the other cops. The same way a person can be an accessory after the fact, police who refuse to speak out about the abuses they see or who retaliate against complaint filers, are complicit in the original abuse. If most police really are good, and want to be recognized as such, they need to help kick the bad ones out of the department. Instead they cover it up and let the bad ones keep going out on patrol and represent them.

Very good. Finally someone who has some sense. Most cops are good but its the covering your partners ass that has to go. Thats what makes almost all cops bad in my book because they won't be truthful about their partners/friends.

Anyone remember the instance when the family dog was
shot dead right on the highway. Poor dog.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Millennium
I actually think brxndxn got off lucky. If I would have been the officer I would have written the ticket and then hung out in the parking lot. When brxndxn confronted me I would have told him to get back in the car and call dispatch in the morning. When he refused and became belligerent I would have pepper sprayed him and handcuffed him. I would have then taken him to the station and arrested him for disorderly conduct, public intox, refusal to obey a peace officer, resisting arrest, and harassment. I guarantee the DA would have pressed charges on every count. I then would have the DA's office lobbed by the Police Officer's Union and the FOP to NOT plea bargain. a few felonies and a few years in prison would not look good. Then again, I will admit I would have been an asshole, but brxndxn was one first. Never be an asshole to a cop. You always lose. It may not always be right or deserving of the person, but every action has a reaction. It is the simple truth when dealing with someone who has a high stress job and is used to getting attacked by the public. How many drunk and disorderlies has that officer already answered that night? How many people give him lip and try to get him fired over him DOING his JOB? People hate the police, so why can't the police do the same in kind? It isn't right but they are HUMAN just like everyone else. Sure, they are held to a higher standard, but HOW high?

Nice to see just exactly what kind of prick cop you plan on being, Millennium.

:disgust:
People hate car salemen too and give them lip and try to get them fired for doing their job, but a car salesmen doesn't have the luxury of killing people or putting them in jail for years as petty revenge. What comes around goes around, pal. If not in this life, then the next, you fvckin' POS. :|

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Millennium
I actually think brxndxn got off lucky. If I would have been the officer I would have written the ticket and then hung out in the parking lot. When brxndxn confronted me I would have told him to get back in the car and call dispatch in the morning. When he refused and became belligerent I would have pepper sprayed him and handcuffed him. I would have then taken him to the station and arrested him for disorderly conduct, public intox, refusal to obey a peace officer, resisting arrest, and harassment. I guarantee the DA would have pressed charges on every count. I then would have the DA's office lobbed by the Police Officer's Union and the FOP to NOT plea bargain. a few felonies and a few years in prison would not look good. Then again, I will admit I would have been an asshole, but brxndxn was one first. Never be an asshole to a cop. You always lose. It may not always be right or deserving of the person, but every action has a reaction. It is the simple truth when dealing with someone who has a high stress job and is used to getting attacked by the public. How many drunk and disorderlies has that officer already answered that night? How many people give him lip and try to get him fired over him DOING his JOB? People hate the police, so why can't the police do the same in kind? It isn't right but they are HUMAN just like everyone else. Sure, they are held to a higher standard, but HOW high?

Nice to see just exactly what kind of prick cop you plan on being, Millennium.

:disgust:
People hate car salemen too and give them lip and try to get them fired for doing their job, but a car salesmen doesn't have the luxury of killing people or putting them in jail for years as petty revenge. What comes around goes around, pal. If not in this life, then the next, you fvckin' POS. :|

How often do used car salesmen get attacked by belligerent drunks?

Viper GTS

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
How often do used car salesmen get attacked by belligerent drunks?

Viper GTS

Nice try, Viper, but you're being obtuse. Read Millenium's post again. He wasn't talking about being "attacked." He was talking about what he would do to someone like brxndxn just for talking sh!t, and that is everything I dislike about cops. If someone talks a little trash to a car saleman, does the salesman have the luxury of petty revenge by putting that sh!t-talker in jail for years? Or even being able to rough 'em up?
More cops need to realize that they work in a public service job. As such, they are going to have to deal with undesirable people on a daily basis. Everyone who interacts daily with the public has this same problem - the world is full of assholes. If you don't like working with public, then don't get a job where you have to serve the public.
You know the biggest difference between a cop and a used car salesman? If the salesman has a bad day on the job, he sells a car for too little and he might get fired. If a cop has a bad day on the job, someone dies and the police union crowds around to protect him. :disgust:

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Millennium
I actually think brxndxn got off lucky. If I would have been the officer I would have written the ticket and then hung out in the parking lot. When brxndxn confronted me I would have told him to get back in the car and call dispatch in the morning. When he refused and became belligerent I would have pepper sprayed him and handcuffed him. I would have then taken him to the station and arrested him for disorderly conduct, public intox, refusal to obey a peace officer, resisting arrest, and harassment. I guarantee the DA would have pressed charges on every count. I then would have the DA's office lobbed by the Police Officer's Union and the FOP to NOT plea bargain. a few felonies and a few years in prison would not look good. Then again, I will admit I would have been an asshole, but brxndxn was one first. Never be an asshole to a cop. You always lose. It may not always be right or deserving of the person, but every action has a reaction. It is the simple truth when dealing with someone who has a high stress job and is used to getting attacked by the public. How many drunk and disorderlies has that officer already answered that night? How many people give him lip and try to get him fired over him DOING his JOB? People hate the police, so why can't the police do the same in kind? It isn't right but they are HUMAN just like everyone else. Sure, they are held to a higher standard, but HOW high?

Nice to see just exactly what kind of prick cop you plan on being, Millennium.

:disgust:
People hate car salemen too and give them lip and try to get them fired for doing their job, but a car salesmen doesn't have the luxury of killing people or putting them in jail for years as petty revenge. What comes around goes around, pal. If not in this life, then the next, you fvckin' POS. :|

How often do used car salesmen get attacked by belligerent drunks?

Viper GTS

Thats irrelevant. The fact of the matter is these cops chose their job. They are getting paid for their job. If they dont like it they can quit. Otherwise DO THE JOB CORRECTLY!! Just because their job (supposedly) is harder/higher stress doesn't mean they should get off with doing it half-arsed.

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: xirtam
It's the question you should be asking yourself. Sometimes you can do something wrong or have something wrong with your car without knowing it. The cop will ask you if you know why he pulled you over. If you don't know, then you can say that then. IMO there would have been no abuse of power if the attitude was passive and accepting to begin with. If the cop truly stopped you for no reason, you can file a complaint. But let the cop make that evident first to you so that you can make it evident to the court. As it stands, your record in the situation sucks. Oh, and arguing about the speed with the officer is never a wise idea. The cop's not there to pronounce judgment -- only to bring you to someone who can decide the just way of dealing with a possible infraction. Don't add fuel to the fire.

Once you're in court, the judge will almost always give the police officer the benefit of the doubt, regardless of whether or not he trumped up the speed. The burdon of innocence is on you. You must prove that you weren't speeding.

I agree, arguing with the cops usually won't get you anywhere, but relying soley on the judge to dismiss the ticket is equally stupid.

Its a vicious circle, but you have a point. What are you supposed to do if a crooked cop wants to lie about the speed he says you were going? Its his word vs. yours, and his almost always wins.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Millennium
I actually think brxndxn got off lucky. If I would have been the officer I would have written the ticket and then hung out in the parking lot. When brxndxn confronted me I would have told him to get back in the car and call dispatch in the morning. When he refused and became belligerent I would have pepper sprayed him and handcuffed him. I would have then taken him to the station and arrested him for disorderly conduct, public intox, refusal to obey a peace officer, resisting arrest, and harassment. I guarantee the DA would have pressed charges on every count. I then would have the DA's office lobbed by the Police Officer's Union and the FOP to NOT plea bargain. a few felonies and a few years in prison would not look good. Then again, I will admit I would have been an asshole, but brxndxn was one first. Never be an asshole to a cop. You always lose. It may not always be right or deserving of the person, but every action has a reaction. It is the simple truth when dealing with someone who has a high stress job and is used to getting attacked by the public. How many drunk and disorderlies has that officer already answered that night? How many people give him lip and try to get him fired over him DOING his JOB? People hate the police, so why can't the police do the same in kind? It isn't right but they are HUMAN just like everyone else. Sure, they are held to a higher standard, but HOW high?

Nice to see just exactly what kind of prick cop you plan on being, Millennium.

:disgust:
People hate car salemen too and give them lip and try to get them fired for doing their job, but a car salesmen doesn't have the luxury of killing people or putting them in jail for years as petty revenge. What comes around goes around, pal. If not in this life, then the next, you fvckin' POS. :|

How often do used car salesmen get attacked by belligerent drunks?

Viper GTS

That's part of the job description of being a cop. Dealing with criminals. If you can't restrict your anger to criminals, you should find another job. If you are being attacked by a belligerent drunk, you follow the process you're trained with.

What bothers me is that people with the mindset that Millenium expressed above actually are cops. He might be one too, but I sure hope not. The attitude he expressed is "Even if I did stop you for no reason, if you disagree with me and make me really not like you, I'm going to abuse my power and pull strings and connections, and basically do everything I can to ruin your life. Therefore, because you know I have this power, and I'm willing to use it for personal vandettas, you better do everything I say." No cop who thinks and acts like this is deserving of respect. The only thing a cop should be concerned with is how to handle a crime and protecting people. Not taking a guy whose action was not getting back into his car, and putting him in jail for years. That's not serving the community, it's serving yourself.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Shockwave
Wow, look at all the ATOT asshats who support police burtality and illegal actions.

My opinion?

KILL THE POLICE!! ALL OF THEM!! DEAD!!! :|

moron. Don't you people understand what the world would be like without law enforcement?

No one here is supporting police brutality. No one here is saying the cop was justified in pushing him around. All anyone is saying is that its stupid & illegal to get out of the car. Which it is.

It is illegal to get out of the car?

 

[NuclearFusi0n]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Millennium
I actually think brxndxn got off lucky. If I would have been the officer I would have written the ticket and then hung out in the parking lot. When brxndxn confronted me I would have told him to get back in the car and call dispatch in the morning. When he refused and became belligerent I would have pepper sprayed him and handcuffed him. I would have then taken him to the station and arrested him for disorderly conduct, public intox, refusal to obey a peace officer, resisting arrest, and harassment. I guarantee the DA would have pressed charges on every count. I then would have the DA's office lobbed by the Police Officer's Union and the FOP to NOT plea bargain. a few felonies and a few years in prison would not look good. Then again, I will admit I would have been an asshole, but brxndxn was one first. Never be an asshole to a cop. You always lose. It may not always be right or deserving of the person, but every action has a reaction. It is the simple truth when dealing with someone who has a high stress job and is used to getting attacked by the public. How many drunk and disorderlies has that officer already answered that night? How many people give him lip and try to get him fired over him DOING his JOB? People hate the police, so why can't the police do the same in kind? It isn't right but they are HUMAN just like everyone else. Sure, they are held to a higher standard, but HOW high?

Nice to see just exactly what kind of prick cop you plan on being, Millennium.

:disgust:
People hate car salemen too and give them lip and try to get them fired for doing their job, but a car salesmen doesn't have the luxury of killing people or putting them in jail for years as petty revenge. What comes around goes around, pal. If not in this life, then the next, you fvckin' POS. :|

How often do used car salesmen get attacked by belligerent drunks?

Viper GTS

That's part of the job description of being a cop. Dealing with criminals. If you can't restrict your anger to criminals, you should find another job. If you are being attacked by a belligerent drunk, you follow the process you're trained with.

What bothers me is that people with the mindset that Millenium expressed above actually are cops. He might be one too, but I sure hope not. The attitude he expressed is "Even if I did stop you for no reason, if you disagree with me and make me really not like you, I'm going to abuse my power and pull strings and connections, and basically do everything I can to ruin your life. Therefore, because you know I have this power, and I'm willing to use it for personal vandettas, you better do everything I say." No cop who thinks and acts like this is deserving of respect. The only thing a cop should be concerned with is how to handle a crime and protecting people. Not taking a guy whose action was not getting back into his car, and putting him in jail for years. That's not serving the community, it's serving yourself.

I'm pretty sure Millennium has a degree in Law Enforcement (or is working toward it) or something. I'm not really sure on the specifics though, Millennium?

 

[Viper GTS]

You guys are 100% correct, that is their job. Part of their job also gives them the authority use force up to and including taking life in defense of their own (as well as others'). If you're a drunk dumbass & threaten a cop, you deserve what you get. We do not require them to sacrifice their own life over some drunken fvcktard who jumps out of a car during a traffic stop.

Make their job easy and safe, stay the hell in the car if you get pulled over.

Viper GTS

 

[Ultima]

Originally posted by: ergeorge

All you cop-haters should take a vacations to Somalia or some other 3rd world hell-hole where there are no cops or rule of law.
Experience that true freedom you seem to crave so much.

Now, my experience with cops hasn't been so bad. My grandfather was a cop. My other grandfather was in the military.
I don't mind most cops... except rent-a-cops and traffic cops and cops going around harassing people. I cannot STAND cops whose only purpose for existing is revenue generation.
Oh, and here is my experience with cops, it's not so bad like I said:

17.... overnighter in jail for being drunk and disorderly. No charges.

19.... biking on the sidewalk. I knew a friend of the cop's, and got off with a warning.

20.... jaywalking while drunk, nearly got hit by a car on the way to a mcdonalds. Cops let me off with a warning (that was pretty lucky!)

20.... speeding ticket for going 87mph in a 62mph zone. $220, 3pts. My speedometer indicated more like 80mph. The cop paced me from behind.. I thought it was some fvcker tailgating me. Ah well, I sort of deserve that one for not paying more attention to what was behind me. I contested anyways since what I was doing still wasn't dangerous IMO. I haven't gotten a court date yet, even though the ticket was in october.

20.... speeding ticket for going 75mph in a 44mph zone. $350, 5pts. Now this ticket was total and complete bullsh!t. This 44mph zone is a damn freeway, why they mark it at 44mph here is probably for revenue generation but since it's a freeway everyone goes at least 65mph. They had a gigantic radar trap with over 15 cruisers and cops standing in the middle of the highway pulling over dozens by the minute. You can be sure I contested that one too, and my hearing is in december.

20.... jaywalking ticket for crossing the intersection when the light was green for me but the pedestrian signal was red. Was on my way to college. This ticket was BS too but the cop did warn me. I ignored his warning so meh.. whatever. A $27 ticket isn't such a big deal, and it was my first one, and I've been crossing there for 3 years.

As you can see, I have no anger toward the cop that put me in jail overnight or the cops who stopped me for jaywalking since I did almost get hit by a car and I was drunk. They were just doing their job. I do have anger however for those cops who have nothing better to do than to earn their city more revenue (I mean comeon, 15 cruisers in a spot they KNOW people will be speeding safely? Or someone stopping me and interrogating me for 20 minutes because I happened to be on the sidewalk with my bike?

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: yowolabi
What bothers me is that people with the mindset that Millenium expressed above actually are cops. He might be one too, but I sure hope not. The attitude he expressed is "Even if I did stop you for no reason, if you disagree with me and make me really not like you, I'm going to abuse my power and pull strings and connections, and basically do everything I can to ruin your life. Therefore, because you know I have this power, and I'm willing to use it for personal vandettas, you better do everything I say." No cop who thinks and acts like this is deserving of respect. The only thing a cop should be concerned with is how to handle a crime and protecting people. Not taking a guy whose action was not getting back into his car, and putting him in jail for years. That's not serving the community, it's serving yourself.

Well said! I guess if you deal with criminals long enough, everyone starts to look like one.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Ultima
17.... overnighter in jail for being drunk and disorderly. No charges.

First serious party?

19.... biking on the sidewalk. I knew a friend of the cop's, and got off with a warning.

WTF? Biking on the sidewalk? They ticket for that? That's gEy.

20.... jaywalking while drunk, nearly got hit by a car on the way to a mcdonalds. Cops let me off with a warning (that was pretty lucky!)

You're lucky you're not a hood ornament. :Q

20.... speeding ticket for going 87mph in a 62mph zone. $220, 3pts. My speedometer indicated more like 80mph. The cop paced me from behind.. I thought it was some fvcker tailgating me. Ah well, I sort of deserve that one for not paying more attention to what was behind me. I contested anyways since what I was doing still wasn't dangerous IMO. I haven't gotten a court date yet, even though the ticket was in october.

0wn3d.

20.... speeding ticket for going 75mph in a 44mph zone. $350, 5pts. Now this ticket was total and complete bullsh!t. This 44mph zone is a damn freeway, why they mark it at 44mph here is probably for revenue generation but since it's a freeway everyone goes at least 65mph. They had a gigantic radar trap with over 15 cruisers and cops standing in the middle of the highway pulling over dozens by the minute. You can be sure I contested that one too, and my hearing is in december.

Contest what? You did 31 over the limit. STFU and pay the ticket.

20.... jaywalking ticket for crossing the intersection when the light was green for me but the pedestrian signal was red.

Jaywalking ticket? The cops must be bored in your town.

- M4H

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Millennium
I actually think brxndxn got off lucky. If I would have been the officer I would have written the ticket and then hung out in the parking lot. When brxndxn confronted me I would have told him to get back in the car and call dispatch in the morning. When he refused and became belligerent I would have pepper sprayed him and handcuffed him. I would have then taken him to the station and arrested him for disorderly conduct, public intox, refusal to obey a peace officer, resisting arrest, and harassment. I guarantee the DA would have pressed charges on every count. I then would have the DA's office lobbed by the Police Officer's Union and the FOP to NOT plea bargain. a few felonies and a few years in prison would not look good. Then again, I will admit I would have been an asshole, but brxndxn was one first. Never be an asshole to a cop. You always lose. It may not always be right or deserving of the person, but every action has a reaction. It is the simple truth when dealing with someone who has a high stress job and is used to getting attacked by the public. How many drunk and disorderlies has that officer already answered that night? How many people give him lip and try to get him fired over him DOING his JOB? People hate the police, so why can't the police do the same in kind? It isn't right but they are HUMAN just like everyone else. Sure, they are held to a higher standard, but HOW high?

Nice to see just exactly what kind of prick cop you plan on being, Millennium.

:disgust:
People hate car salemen too and give them lip and try to get them fired for doing their job, but a car salesmen doesn't have the luxury of killing people or putting them in jail for years as petty revenge. What comes around goes around, pal. If not in this life, then the next, you fvckin' POS. :|

How often do used car salesmen get attacked by belligerent drunks?

Viper GTS

That's part of the job description of being a cop. Dealing with criminals. If you can't restrict your anger to criminals, you should find another job. If you are being attacked by a belligerent drunk, you follow the process you're trained with.

What bothers me is that people with the mindset that Millenium expressed above actually are cops. He might be one too, but I sure hope not. The attitude he expressed is "Even if I did stop you for no reason, if you disagree with me and make me really not like you, I'm going to abuse my power and pull strings and connections, and basically do everything I can to ruin your life. Therefore, because you know I have this power, and I'm willing to use it for personal vandettas, you better do everything I say." No cop who thinks and acts like this is deserving of respect. The only thing a cop should be concerned with is how to handle a crime and protecting people. Not taking a guy whose action was not getting back into his car, and putting him in jail for years. That's not serving the community, it's serving yourself.

You have posted many things in the past that I have not agreed with yowolabi, but I agree with you on this. There are too many cops out there that will happily do everything within their power to fsck with you if you piss them off, regardless of whether or not you broke any laws. Some friends of mine had to deal with such a matter, and it was made all the worse by the fact that the cop lived next door to them.

I had an incident happen with a State Trooper up here that reminds me a bit of brxndxn's. I was driving home at about 3:00 or 4:00 A.M., going 45-50 MPH on the highway. No other cars at all, I was in the right hand lane. I notice a pair of headlights way back, and figure they will pass me quickly, as I am going under the speed limit and am not in a big hurry, as I enjoy driving at night on the empty roads.

Well, the car came up on my bumper with his brights on, only about three feet back or so. I change into the other lane and slow down, thinking they will continue on, and they stick to me like glue. I do this again, and again they stick to me. This is starting to freak me out a bit by now, as they stayed there for about ten miles. I didn't have a gun on me that night, but I got my cell phone out and was in the process of dialing the Police Station in the city I was about to enter, to tell them I had some weirdo following me and I was going to pull into their parking lot, THEN the car behind me turns on the red-and-blues.

After pulling me over, he asks if I know why. Of course, you never say anything, they are just hoping you will spit something out they can nail you with if their original charge will not stick. I said no, he said my speed was erratic and I was changing lanes a lot, and that is why he pulled me over. I explained that I had thought I was being followed by some psycho that was going to follow me home and murder me when I pulled into my driveway, and I had been about to call the city cops and let them know I was on my way there with said psycho glued to my bumper. He finally left me alone, but warned me to be more careful in the future.

Careful of what, psycho retarded cops that have nothing better to do than try and drive up your arse on dark, lonely highways at 4:00 A.M.?

Dumbass was probably hoping his random late night stop would net him a DUI so he could meet his quota that month and restock his doughnut locker.

 

[Ultima]

20.... speeding ticket for going 87mph in a 62mph zone. $220, 3pts. My speedometer indicated more like 80mph. The cop paced me from behind.. I thought it was some fvcker tailgating me. Ah well, I sort of deserve that one for not paying more attention to what was behind me. I contested anyways since what I was doing still wasn't dangerous IMO. I haven't gotten a court date yet, even though the ticket was in october.

0wn3d.

Yes... owned.. I think I will just try to plea-bargain this one if I ever do get a court date. Even though I wasn't doing anything dangerous I did let the cop tail me long enough to catch me, and fair is fair... I just don't want any points

20.... speeding ticket for going 75mph in a 44mph zone. $350, 5pts. Now this ticket was total and complete bullsh!t. This 44mph zone is a damn freeway, why they mark it at 44mph here is probably for revenue generation but since it's a freeway everyone goes at least 65mph. They had a gigantic radar trap with over 15 cruisers and cops standing in the middle of the highway pulling over dozens by the minute. You can be sure I contested that one too, and my hearing is in december.

Contest what? You did 31 over the limit. STFU and pay the ticket.

I don't care if I did 31 over the limit, I was doing about 2 over the speed of traffic. IMO that is what the speed limit should be, for safety reasons on top of giving the cops less excuses to set up traps there
Now, my friend drove through there once and his dad was in the car and he is on his learner's so he went 40 through there.. that was SCARY. We had people FLYING by us and swerving into our lane, slamming on the brakes, etc.. Imagine what would happen if you tried driving on the freeway at 40. This is a freeway we're talking about, not some neighbourhood street! Why should I be penalized for not driving like a newbie and going the speed limit? Why should I be penalized because the city wants some extra cash?

 

[Fritzo]

This is fine advice if you actually did something wrong. That doesn't apply to cases where you know they just didn't like the look of you and decided that messing with you is something that they can get away with.

I'm going to hand this one over to my wife, who has been an officer for 12 years now:

Hello,

I read your story and have heard it 20000 times before. I'm sure you're leaving out a few details:

1. You keep saying "I did nothing wrong." That is not for you to determine. If you were pulled over, it was for a reason. Most of the cop hating people in this post are probably one's that have been caught doing something wrong. They're the same ones that got caught throwing spitballs in grade school and would cry "I didn't do it!" on the way to the principal's office.
2. There was an admission of alcohol use. The moment this is stated, it will put the police on heightened alert. Do you know how many people say "I only had 2 beers" and are so drunk they don't know their name anymore? People who have been drinking are TEN TIMES more likely to attack or act belligerent than a sober person. The officer does not know how many beers you actually had, nor how intoxicated you are, nor to they know how you will react.
3. DO NOT get out of the car during a traffic stop unless asked. Should you have gotten out of the car and started approaching the cruiser, they probably would have drawn their guns on you ON TOP OF handcuffing you. I'm also sure that when you approached the car, you didn't say "Excuse me Mr. Kind Officer sir, I was wondering what your badge number was...." I'm sure it was more like "I WANT TO KNOW YOUR F*in' BADGE NUMBER NOW!!!" If someone is approaching you shouting profanities, you would get jumpy too. Hence, you were cuffed. The blow to the testicles? I don't know if it was accidental or on purpose. It may have been on purpose if you were being a big jerk.
4. That ten minutes of "wasting your time" involves running your entire history as well as the history of the vehicle. They have to do warrant checks, stolen car matches, etc. on EVERY CAR pulled over. Be thankful it was only 10 minutes. Back before in car computers, they would have had to do everything over radio and that can take 30 minutes or more.

So there are two sides to every story. Don't make judgment calls based on a one sided account. Keep in mind that Hitler's side of the story was that he was only trying to make the world a better place.

Police have a dangerous job. They go to work with the threat of being murdered EVERY DAY. If one pulls you over, just go with the flow and be nice, 9/10 times you will be let go. If you're a jerk, the officer is going to be edgy around you, and more than likely get into a situation like the one described here.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Shockwave
Wow, look at all the ATOT asshats who support police burtality and illegal actions.

My opinion?

KILL THE POLICE!! ALL OF THEM!! DEAD!!! :|

moron. Don't you people understand what the world would be like without law enforcement?

No one here is supporting police brutality. No one here is saying the cop was justified in pushing him around. All anyone is saying is that its stupid & illegal to get out of the car. Which it is.

Ahhh, the land of the free, where it is illegal to get out of the car....

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Shockwave
Wow, look at all the ATOT asshats who support police burtality and illegal actions.

My opinion?

KILL THE POLICE!! ALL OF THEM!! DEAD!!! :|

moron. Don't you people understand what the world would be like without law enforcement?

No one here is supporting police brutality. No one here is saying the cop was justified in pushing him around. All anyone is saying is that its stupid & illegal to get out of the car. Which it is.

Ahhh, the land of the free, where it is illegal to get out of the car....

Land of the free, where an officer of the law can feel secure doing his job lame argument dude.

 

[yoda291]

Originally posted by: ergeorge

All you cop-haters should take a vacations to Somalia or some other 3rd world hell-hole where there are no cops or rule of law.
Experience that true freedom you seem to crave so much.

If freedom is being forced to the ground and being threatened with the prospect of a skull thumping for no reason is rule of law, I'll take that vacation. Maybe you shouldn't judge all police officers under a single blanket statement. There are definitely a good number of them that have no right in an authoritative position to clump with those that do.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
You guys are 100% correct, that is their job. Part of their job also gives them the authority use force up to and including taking life in defense of their own (as well as others'). If you're a drunk dumbass & threaten a cop, you deserve what you get. We do not require them to sacrifice their own life over some drunken fvcktard who jumps out of a car during a traffic stop.

Make their job easy and safe, stay the hell in the car if you get pulled over.

Viper GTS

Didn't I say exactly that in my post a page or 2 back?

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Shockwave
Wow, look at all the ATOT asshats who support police burtality and illegal actions.

My opinion?

KILL THE POLICE!! ALL OF THEM!! DEAD!!! :|

moron. Don't you people understand what the world would be like without law enforcement?

No one here is supporting police brutality. No one here is saying the cop was justified in pushing him around. All anyone is saying is that its stupid & illegal to get out of the car. Which it is.

Ahhh, the land of the free, where it is illegal to get out of the car....

Land of the free, where an officer of the law can feel secure doing his job lame argument dude.

If the Cop had answered the question originally asked, the n00b wouldn't have got out of the car. Lame argument dude.