student expelled for counterstrike map that resembled school

[Parasitic]

I wonder how well that map plays. Some of the custom stuff runs like shay's horse for me.

 

[compnovice]

Originally posted by: BigJelly

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: BigJelly

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
To everyone saying he should have known better, all I can say is how?

I'm 25, so I'm already done with HS and college. Even today, I would not have thought twice about making a map of my school/office/neighborhood. How was he supposed to know this is an evil thing to do? Because a small vocal segment of society thinks it is?

After columbine, I think it's called COMMON SENSE.

right..you mean like how after 9/11 we shouldn't play counterstrike?😛

WTF is with everyone, can you guys listen/read? I NEVER said video games lead to violence. I stated 5+ times that I played CS.

Making a map of your school that is in a FPS should be a ****** no no to anyone with half a brain.

I totally agree with Big Jelly...

Following the same logic, since the Columbine kids were bowling the night before shooting, I propose anyone seen bowling at night should be sent to Guantanamo Bay.
Every one knows people with balls can be dangerous....

 

[exdeath]

Ridiculous.

I've contemplated making a map of my old high school, malls, all kinds of stuff.

Due to their size, multiple halls, corridors, buildings, etc, schools make extremely challenging and dynamic close quarters combat situations.

I'd be putting zombies in the map though instead of students (not that there is much of a difference some times)

 

[alkemyst]

same here, playing DOOM, Wolfenstein, etc, even Ultima I, II, III series games I thought about my schools and work as maps and even popular buildings.

Even though I may be killing things there, it doesn't mean I am going to do it in real life.

Fear and lack of parents is ruining the US and a lot of the rest of the world.

 

[sieistganzfett]

uh. a CS map of a HS.. that kid spent a lot of time on making that. that must have taken the kid many hours to do, thats insane dedication. whats more important was which side the kid and his friends actively played on the map as.. 😉

 

[DannyLove]

""I think removing him was probably a good thing to do because we have no idea if he was actually going to come to school with a gun or something," student Maggie Berado said."

That's hilarious, if he wasn't going to do it then, I'm sure he's going to do it now that they screwed up his future lol

morons.

 

[evolvedbullet]

HAHAHA, this is pretty funny but yet it is bullshit. I know someone who made UW-Madison as a Counter Strike Source map and that person didn't get expelled. I don't know but this is BS!.

 

[jdoggg12]

the map http://www.flickr.com/photos/8082096@N02/?saved=1

 

[rbV5]

I wonder how his map of the administation building is coming along?

 

[PrinceofWands]

If there were any secondary indicators (messages about training to do real violence, threats, etc) then there's some ground here. Otherwise it's not just an overreaction it's outright lunacy and abuse. Everyone involved should fired, if not publicly beaten. If the kid wasn't planning violence against the school before this would sure as hell get him considering it - and after this quite honestly I wouldn't feel the least bit bad for any officials harmed in an attack. This kind of stupidity is simply inexcusable.

 

[TheSource]

I should start making cs maps of colleges in teh us

 

[GeneValgene]

bump with new request in OP 🙂

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: BigJelly

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
To everyone saying he should have known better, all I can say is how?

I'm 25, so I'm already done with HS and college. Even today, I would not have thought twice about making a map of my school/office/neighborhood. How was he supposed to know this is an evil thing to do? Because a small vocal segment of society thinks it is?

After columbine, I think it's called COMMON SENSE.

Dude, you have no idea about common sense. America is the wrong country for cowards.

 

[jdoggg12]

If its common sense, then:

No movie should depict real life buildings if theres violence - common sense says its a terrorist training tool
No game should have realistic fighting (hand to hand, gun, knife, etc) - common sense says its training to kill your classmates
No one should draw violence - common sense says it means they plan on acting it out
No one should own a gun - common sense says they must plan on using it for evil

The sad part is that some people (a few members here, i'm sure) think these arguments are not ludicrous. People are so afraid of everything these days - you cant block every for of danger, the harder you try, the more you foster rebellion.

 

[1prophet]

They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.


Benjamin Franklin

 

[jdoggg12]

Originally posted by: 1prophet
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.


Benjamin Franklin

Key word... not all liberties are essential

 

[SonicIce]

Originally posted by: rbV5
I wonder how his map of the administation building is coming along?

😛

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: BigJelly
Expelled? Yes

In this day in age, you just can't do that sort of thing. How stupid is the kid?

I'm sure the kid would never do something to his school, but we CAN'T take that chance.

The same people that say the school overreacted would cry foul if the kid did shoot-up the school and the school didnt do anything after finding out about his cs map.

Stupid, stupid kid.

He did nothing illegal. Knee jerk reactions do not change that fact.

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

Originally posted by: 1prophet
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.


Benjamin Franklin

Key word... not all liberties are essential

Freedom of speech/expression is normally considered pretty damned essential in the US. While it has restrictions -- directly inciting violence, some forms of hate speech, the cliched 'yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater' -- you can't just start punishing or jailing people because they say/write/create things you disagree with or think are disturbing. The kid didn't break any laws.

Looking into the kid is justified in light of other school shootings. Expelling him based just on this (unless there was more going on that the news story didn't discuss) is a knee-jerk overreaction from the tragic events at Virginia Tech. The map had been floating around for some time, and somehow just last week they decided he had to be expelled because of it? He has to finish up his senior year at another school, and he won't be allowed to take part in the graduation ceremony with the other students from his old school. "The kid's still going to get his diploma" doesn't exactly make it right.

 

[zinfamous]

Well, this expulsion may give him incentive to shoot up the school now...something he likely didn't have before....

 

[Mermaidman]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
Well, this expulsion may give him incentive to shoot up the school now...something he likely didn't have before....

:roll:😀:thumbsup:

Bump for update:
School admin continues to be assholes
The reader comments continue to be interesting.

 

[CKDragon]

Originally posted by: Mermaidman

Originally posted by: zinfamous
Well, this expulsion may give him incentive to shoot up the school now...something he likely didn't have before....

:roll:😀:thumbsup:

Bump for update:
School admin continues to be assholes
The reader comments continue to be interesting.

Bump again because this is maddening. I hope people actually do write them letters. I just sent an email to the Steve Smelley that was listed in the first post.