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RampantAndroid

RampantAndroid

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Ausm said:
Will you vote for him if he doesn't sign the Bill?
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He allowed the patriot act to be extended. He's allowing the US to become a "battlefield", he's letting the TSA run free, he was at the helm for obamacare.

So no. I don't see him coming back from things like that.

And it isn't like there is anyone else hugely attractive. I'll just be a crazy and go libertarian.
 
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Ausm

Lifer
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RampantAndroid said:
He allowed the patriot act to be extended. He's allowing the US to become a "battlefield", he's letting the TSA run free, he was at the helm for obamacare.

So no. I don't see him coming back from things like that.

And it isn't like there is anyone else hugely attractive. I'll just be a crazy and go libertarian.
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Why doesn't the Right show him love when he embraced so many of Bush's policies? :confused:
 
RampantAndroid

RampantAndroid

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Ausm said:
Why doesn't the Right show him love when he embraced so many of Bush's policies? :confused:
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Because a lot of the right was down on Bush too, and Obama in many ways turned out to be a continuation of Bush. Lack of change.

The patriot act, NDAA and such should not be allowed.
 
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MotF Bane

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One of the biggest events happening for the Internet, and this thread is nearly dead - of course, that's just a mirror of how most of America doesn't even know this is happening.
 
Spikesoldier

Spikesoldier

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MotF Bane said:
One of the biggest events happening for the Internet, and this thread is nearly dead - of course, that's just a mirror of how most of America doesn't even know this is happening.
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agreed. too many are consumed by party politics to give a care, or will even support such a retarded measure it if is spinned to put the 'other party' down when its really just going to fuck us all.

blind to the issues.
 
Nebor

Nebor

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Ausm said:
Why doesn't the Right show him love when he embraced so many of Bush's policies? :confused:
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It's been like 11 years of Bush so far. No complaints from me. I know a lot of Republicans that'll just be staying home on election day because the current crop of (R) nominees sucks and Obama, as it turns out, isn't any different than what they were used to.
 
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Icepick

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ActiveX posted in the more recent (now closed) thread that GoDaddy reversed it's decision to support SOPA. I find that interesting because just yesterday I read that XDA-Developers decided to pull it's business away from GoDaddy due to their (GoDaddy's) support of SOPA. I'll bet that other online businesses also threatened to leave and eventually enough pressure in the form of lost $$ was applied to convince them to reverse their position.

Rule #1 - Any time you want to know why things happen "follow the money trail."

It bears repeating the list of the corporate and public sponsors of SOPA (Also originally posted by ActiveX in the closed thread.) Source: http://www.godaddy.com/newscenter/release-view.aspx?news_item_id=380&isc=smtwsup

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List of Supporters: H.R. 3261, the Stop Online Piracy Act


60 Plus Association
ABC
Alliance for Safe Online Pharmacies (ASOP)
American Bankers Association (ABA)
American Federation of Musicians (AFM)
American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA)
American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP)
Americans for Tax Reform
Artists and Allied Crafts of the United States
Association of American Publishers (AAP)
Association of State Criminal Investigative Agencies
Association of Talent Agents (ATA)
Beachbody, LLC
BMI
BMG Chrysalis
Building and Construction Trades Department
Capitol Records Nashville
CBS
Cengage Learning
Christian Music Trade Association
Church Music Publishers' Association
Coalition Against Online Video Piracy (CAOVP)
Comcast/NBCUniversal
Concerned Women for America (CWA)
Congressional Fire Services Institute
Copyhype
Copyright Alliance
Coty, Inc.
Council of Better Business Bureaus (CBBB)
Council of State Governments
Country Music Association
Country Music Television
Creative America
Deluxe
Directors Guild of America (DGA)
Disney Publishing Worldwide, Inc.
Elsevier
EMI Christian Music Group
EMI Music Publishing
Entertainment Software Association (ESA)
ESPN
Estée Lauder Companies
Fraternal Order of Police (FOP)
Gospel Music Association
Graphic Artists Guild
Hachette Book Group
HarperCollins Publishers Worldwide, Inc.
Hyperion
Independent Film & Television Alliance (IFTA)
International Alliance of Theatrical and Stage Employees (IATSE)
International AntiCounterfeiting Coalition (IACC)
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW)
International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT)
International Trademark Association (INTA)
International Union of Police Associations
L'Oreal
Lost Highway Records
Macmillan
Major County Sheriffs
Major League Baseball
Majority City Chiefs
Marvel Entertainment, LLC
MasterCard Worldwide
MCA Records
McGraw-Hill Education
Mercury Nashville
Minor League Baseball (MiLB)
Minority Media & Telecom Council (MMTC)
Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)
Moving Picture Technicians
MPA - The Association of Magazine Media
National Association of Manufacturers (NAM)
National Association of Prosecutor Coordinators
National Association of State Chief Information Officers
National Cable & Telecommunications Association (NCTA)
National Center for Victims of Crime
National Crime Justice Association
National District Attorneys Association
National Domestic Preparedness Coalition
National Football League
National Governors Association, Economic Development and Commerce Committee
National League of Cities
National Narcotics Offers' Associations' Coalition
National Sheriffs' Association (NSA)
National Songwriters Association
National Troopers Coalition
News Corporation
Pearson Education
Penguin Group (USA), Inc.
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA)
Pfizer, Inc.
Provident Music Group
Random House
Raulet Property Partners
Republic Nashville
Revlon
Scholastic, Inc.
Screen Actors Guild (SAG)
Showdog Universal Music
Sony/ATV Music Publishing
Sony Music Entertainment
Sony Music Nashville
State International Development Organization (SIDO)
The National Association of Theatre Owners (NATO)
The Perseus Books Groups
The United States Conference of Mayors
Tiffany & Co.
Time Warner
True Religion Brand Jeans
Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC)
UMG Publishing Group Nashville
United States Chamber of Commerce
United States Olympic Committee
United States Tennis Association
Universal Music
Universal Music Publishing Group
Viacom
Visa Inc.
W.W. Norton & Company
Wallace Bajjali Development Partners, L.P.
Warner Music Group
Warner Music Nashville
Wolters Kluewer Health
Word Entertainment
 
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Ausm

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LessThanDan said:
Internet censorship should be the highest priority issue for everyone, regardless of political leaning. If we allow government to strangle the last form of free media, we are rendered useless to run a democracy.
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This is a very reasonable and accurate post.
 
theeedude

theeedude

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Google should wipe out search results to companies and politicians supporting SOPA, let them get a taste of their own medicine.
 
Patranus

Patranus

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Icepick said:
ActiveX posted in the more recent (now closed) thread that GoDaddy reversed it's decision to support SOPA. I find that interesting because just yesterday I read that XDA-Developers decided to pull it's business away from GoDaddy due to their (GoDaddy's) support of SOPA. I'll bet that other online businesses also threatened to leave and eventually enough pressure in the form of lost $$ was applied to convince them to reverse their position.

Rule #1 - Any time you want to know why things happen "follow the money trail."

It bears repeating the list of the corporate and public sponsors of SOPA (Also originally posted by ActiveX in the closed thread.) Source: http://www.godaddy.com/newscenter/release-view.aspx?news_item_id=380&isc=smtwsup

================================================================

List of Supporters: H.R. 3261, the Stop Online Piracy Act


60 Plus Association
ABC
Alliance for Safe Online Pharmacies (ASOP)
American Bankers Association (ABA)
American Federation of Musicians (AFM)
American Federation of Television and Radio Artists (AFTRA)
American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP)
Americans for Tax Reform
Artists and Allied Crafts of the United States
Association of American Publishers (AAP)
Association of State Criminal Investigative Agencies
Association of Talent Agents (ATA)
Beachbody, LLC
BMI
BMG Chrysalis
Building and Construction Trades Department
Capitol Records Nashville
CBS
Cengage Learning
Christian Music Trade Association
Church Music Publishers' Association
Coalition Against Online Video Piracy (CAOVP)
Comcast/NBCUniversal
Concerned Women for America (CWA)
Congressional Fire Services Institute
Copyhype
Copyright Alliance
Coty, Inc.
Council of Better Business Bureaus (CBBB)
Council of State Governments
Country Music Association
Country Music Television
Creative America
Deluxe
Directors Guild of America (DGA)
Disney Publishing Worldwide, Inc.
Elsevier
EMI Christian Music Group
EMI Music Publishing
Entertainment Software Association (ESA)
ESPN
Estée Lauder Companies
Fraternal Order of Police (FOP)
Gospel Music Association
Graphic Artists Guild
Hachette Book Group
HarperCollins Publishers Worldwide, Inc.
Hyperion
Independent Film & Television Alliance (IFTA)
International Alliance of Theatrical and Stage Employees (IATSE)
International AntiCounterfeiting Coalition (IACC)
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers (IBEW)
International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT)
International Trademark Association (INTA)
International Union of Police Associations
L'Oreal
Lost Highway Records
Macmillan
Major County Sheriffs
Major League Baseball
Majority City Chiefs
Marvel Entertainment, LLC
MasterCard Worldwide
MCA Records
McGraw-Hill Education
Mercury Nashville
Minor League Baseball (MiLB)
Minority Media & Telecom Council (MMTC)
Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA)
Moving Picture Technicians
MPA - The Association of Magazine Media
National Association of Manufacturers (NAM)
National Association of Prosecutor Coordinators
National Association of State Chief Information Officers
National Cable & Telecommunications Association (NCTA)
National Center for Victims of Crime
National Crime Justice Association
National District Attorneys Association
National Domestic Preparedness Coalition
National Football League
National Governors Association, Economic Development and Commerce Committee
National League of Cities
National Narcotics Offers' Associations' Coalition
National Sheriffs' Association (NSA)
National Songwriters Association
National Troopers Coalition
News Corporation
Pearson Education
Penguin Group (USA), Inc.
Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA)
Pfizer, Inc.
Provident Music Group
Random House
Raulet Property Partners
Republic Nashville
Revlon
Scholastic, Inc.
Screen Actors Guild (SAG)
Showdog Universal Music
Sony/ATV Music Publishing
Sony Music Entertainment
Sony Music Nashville
State International Development Organization (SIDO)
The National Association of Theatre Owners (NATO)
The Perseus Books Groups
The United States Conference of Mayors
Tiffany & Co.
Time Warner
True Religion Brand Jeans
Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC)
UMG Publishing Group Nashville
United States Chamber of Commerce
United States Olympic Committee
United States Tennis Association
Universal Music
Universal Music Publishing Group
Viacom
Visa Inc.
W.W. Norton & Company
Wallace Bajjali Development Partners, L.P.
Warner Music Group
Warner Music Nashville
Wolters Kluewer Health
Word Entertainment
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Looks like a list of companies that actually create shit and wants to protect their intellectual property.
 
Modelworks

Modelworks

Lifer
Feb 22, 2007
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I'm totally against any bills like SOPA but do think the internet needs some accountability for being able to determine who is using the connection . Currently you can go online and commit crimes that would be punishable if done any other way. I am not talking about piracy but things like hate crimes, death threats, stalking, intimidation of others, etc. I think there needs to be some form of identification where an ip is 100% trackable to the person using it, not just the pc using it.

As far as governments controlling the internet, it isn't possible. The reason is that people will just go wireless. It might take time but there is nothing stopping individuals from setting up their own wireless mesh networks across the country that couldn't be controlled.
 
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Scooby Doo

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Sep 1, 2006
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Strange, bad case scenario, Adobe could actually kill gimp with this.


edit: Not that adobe really cares enough about it... but still
 
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tommo123

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isn't this just going to move stuff to canadian servers? to get around this american law i mean?
 
blackangst1

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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And so, SOPA is dead.
White House blasts Internet piracy bills
The Obama administration said over the weekend that it would not support legislation mandating changes to Internet infrastructure to fight online copyright and trademark infringement.

"Proposed laws must not tamper with the technical architecture of the Internet through manipulation of the Domain Name System (DNS), a foundation of Internet security," the administration said in a statement on Saturday. "Our analysis of the DNS filtering provisions in some proposed legislation suggests that they pose a real risk to cybersecurity and yet leave contraband goods and services accessible online. We must avoid legislation that drives users to dangerous, unreliable DNS servers and puts next-generation security policies, such as the deployment of DNSSEC, at risk."
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Excellent :thumbsup:
 
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