Stop SOPA, save the internet

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frostedflakes

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What would you do about foreign infringers? It is essentially impossible to pursue civil action against them. Without the ability to get a court order to block access to those sites, there is no remedy.

The SOPA does overreach that which is why I oppose it. I think it should be narrowed to cover foreign sites only. Domestic infringement can be handled by way of civil suits.
Why couldn't they take the infringers to court in the country in question? IFPI and other international organizations have done this with European-based services such as The Pirate Bay.

The main issues are that litigation is costly, time consuming, and not as effective as more draconian techniques. The copyright industry is very eager to pass the costs of enforcement to other parties and force ISPs to block access to sites that facilitate infringement.

The current system isn't perfect, but I'd much rather see the civil courts handle copyright infringement than further criminalize it and give power to the Justice Department to shut down sites without any due process.
 

shabby

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I'm not sure when the vote on this bill is exactly, but when left and wing wing advocacy groups, blogs, open source projects, all social networks, etc stand up to oppose the bill, you'd better take notice.

Once every american notices that facebook is down the revolt will begin, its political suicide for the needs of a few.
 

TheSlamma

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I understand this is not a good bill and we don't want it to pass. But is there any information on this that isn't hyperbole? I'm sorry but I just don't buy into a bill that will shut down Facebook, as if there are lobbyists that will seriously take on Zuckerberg in this fashion, I just don't buy that.
 

dmcowen674

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You guys that are supporting SOPA, you know it would immediately kill Twitter, Youtube, Anandtech Forums, Facebook, 90% of all personal blogs, and more, right?

If you were to post a video of your dog doing something silly to Youtube, but happened to have a radio playing the background, that's infringement and punishable under this bill, should it become law.

SOPA nearly nullifies Fair Use and makes criminals out of nearly every one.

You really want to hand complete control of the Internet over to the MPAA and RIAA?

The same people that sue single parents and dead people for millions, based on flimsy evidence, that they downloaded a couple MP3s? Are you insane?

It needs and must pass.

It is part of the path to revolution.
 

Patranus

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If you were to post a video of your dog doing something silly to Youtube, but happened to have a radio playing the background, that's infringement and punishable under this bill, should it become law.

LOL.

You know as well as I do that that isn't true.
 

RampantAndroid

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Jun 27, 2004
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If this passes, and you post a Michael Jackson song online, you could get 5 years in prison. That's one year more than the person who killed Michael Jackson.

Fun stuff.
 

Spikesoldier

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I suspect we're all fucked.

yeah NDAA and SOPA pass in the same day and probably hastily signed into law by president while everyones cramming for finals or out christmas shopping

triple-double, alley oop, slam dunk on the constitution and civil liberties in one day.

(im horrible at basketball analogies so shoot me)
 

yllus

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VOTE IS TODAY

today may be the last day of uncensored internet

Incorrect. This may be the last day of uncensored Internet in America. When DMCA was instituted in the U.S. a number of software projects relocated to Canada. If this is all as bad as you say, I can't wait for the migration here to Canada to begin!
 

sactoking

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LOL.

You know as well as I do that that isn't true.

Actually, it is true. Have you ever worked at a retail store for a national chain, be it food, clothing, hardware, or whatnot? They all have very specific policies banning the use of radios on the sales floor because even though the radio broadcast is freely available the use of it in conjunction with an economic enterprise is a violation. It constitutes a "public performance" and is illegal. It's the same reason that churches cannot put NFL games on a big screen even though there's no admission charge. Copyright holders don't usually go after some guy walking down the street with his radio blaring but they DO go after churches and other businesses. To think that they wouldn't use any excuse possible to shut down a site like YouTube, which is what they have wanted to do for years now, is laughably ignorant.
 

Ausm

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Looks like the Right Wing in the HOR want to nix bittorrent eh? I doubt they understand what that programs full potentials are. I am loving the reactions of the Rabid Rightist in here getting fucked by the party they blindly support.

I just got an early Christmas present. :D
 
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RampantAndroid

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Looks like the Right Wing in the HOR want to nix bittorrent eh? I doubt they understand what that programs full potentials are. I am loving the reactions of the Rabid Rightist in here getting fucked by the party they blindly support.

I just got an early Christmas present. :D

Yeah, and who wants to bet Obummer will sign it into law?