Stay classy Mississippi, and stay burning

[MooseNSquirrel]

Just like Fort Hood was workplace violence, or Benghazi was a video protest.
You want fake news, look left.

Honestly , the right wing aligns with Fox, and so has no right calling anything else "false". And then there is almost all the other so called conservative news outlets.

Do we really need to revisit the lies of the right/so called conservative leaning press? Not even close. By a mile. Or two. Or an ocean really.

 

[Zaap]

Just like Fort Hood was workplace violence, or Benghazi was a video protest.
You want fake news, look left.

Yes, but some hack said "Water isn't wet!" so turn your brain off.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Is it "fake news" when both the local police chief and the state fire marshal have stated on the record that it does not appear to have been politically motivated? Are they part of some 'left wing' conspiracy perhaps?

Nah, just part of that reality based reporting Trumpists like to complain about.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Charged with 1 count of 1st degree arson of a place of worship and bond set at $250,000.

http://www.newswest9.com/story/34108508/mbi-not-classifying-greenville-church-fire-as-hate-crime

 

[Zaap]

The vandalism of the historic African American church was investigated as a hate crime. The words “Vote Trump” were spray painted on the side of the charred building, leading many around the nation to call it a "crime of race."

Not a thing political about that! LOL!

Just more proof that as currently applied, 'hate crime' is a complete crock of shit term.

This was clearly done to stir up hate- just in an underhanded manner.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Not a thing political about that! LOL!

Just more proof that as currently applied, 'hate crime' is a complete crock of shit term.

This was clearly done to stir up hate- just in an underhanded manner.

What information do you have that the police and fire investigators don't? Perhaps you should get in touch with them and share it.

 

[Zaap]

What information do you have that the police and fire investigators don't? Perhaps you should get in touch with them and share it.

Common sense. Something you've never been in danger of having.

This is just another illustration of the fact that a person can commit what by any current definition IS a hate crime, just so long as you were "Surprise! Just faking it! My bad!" then it's not actually a 'hate crime'.

This is akin to arguing that yelling fire in a crowded theatre isn't actually a public safety issue, and should just be covered by freedom of speech because "Surprise! I was just faking it! No real fire! My bad!"

 

[realibrad]

What makes you say that the B girl wasn't politically motivated? I can't find anything saying it wasn't. Apparently she actually had prior history of faking victimhood as well, as a Paulbot.



Are there good figures out there demonstrating that hate crime reports are mostly (let's say at least 90%) legit? As far as I know, no one has done a comprehensive study trying to record the number of hoaxes, and the crime of committing a hoax is usually labeled as "filing a false police report" or similar, without any hate crime context. I see no reason not to believe that a significant number of claimed hate crimes are hoaxes.

You are missing it. I'm not saying she was not political. I used her to illustrate that first appearance in not always the actual situation. She claimed to have been assaulted by Obama supporters and had a B carved into her. What ended up being the case was that she did it. She did it for political reasons, but the point was to show that things are not always what they first appear to be. This guy wrote vote Trump but he may have had other motives and thought the political climate would distract people.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Common sense. Something you've never been in danger of having.

This is just another illustration of the fact that a person can commit what by any current definition IS a hate crime, just so long as you were "Surprise! Just faking it! My bad!" then it's not actually a 'hate crime'.

This is akin to arguing that yelling fire in a crowded theatre isn't actually a public safety issue, and should just be covered by freedom of speech because "Surprise! I was just faking it! No real fire! My bad!"

Again, what evidence do you have that the police and fire investigators don't ? Or are you of the mind that they are all part of some 'leftist' conspiracy?

 

[agent00f]

Are there good figures out there demonstrating that hate crime reports are mostly (let's say at least 90%) legit? As far as I know, no one has done a comprehensive study trying to record the number of hoaxes, and the crime of committing a hoax is usually labeled as "filing a false police report" or similar, without any hate crime context. I see no reason not to believe that a significant number of claimed hate crimes are hoaxes.

From that methodology section: "Only when a law enforcement investigation reveals sufficient evidence to lead a reasonable and prudent person to conclude that the offender’s actions were motivated, in whole or in part, by his or her bias, should an agency report an incident as a hate crime. "

Given that fox & friends is pretty good at their highly motivated goal of locating every hoax there is, I think the general gist of any ratio outside of the db is clear. Also I would think it's lower than for rape given there's less of a clear motivation for the reporter.

 

[HomerJS]

Trump supporters are obviously responsible. I sent detectives down to Mississippi and you won't believe what they are telling me.

 

[x26]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/02/us/mississippi-black-church-vandalized-vote-trump/index.html

While all the facts aren't in yet, the preponderance of evidence points to a hate crime and voter intimidation


these fucks need to be caught, and locked up for a very long time.

You Are a Fuckin Idiot!!!

 

[x26]

actually I left it open to see how the investigation panned out. nice try though

HaHa--You are a Putz!!

 

[x26]

Again, what evidence do you have that the police and fire investigators don't ? Or are you of the mind that they are all part of some 'leftist' conspiracy?

Here you Go Stoops:

For all the noise over the wave of post-election hate crimes supposedly committed by Donald Trump supporters, it turns out the real epidemic is one of . . . blatant hoaxes.

An African-American church was torched last month in Greenville, Miss., with “Vote Trump” spray-painted on the walls. The initial New York Times account had stressed the Trump angle, though Mississippi officials cast doubt on any “political” motive from the start.

Now police have made an arrest — of an African-American parishioner of the church.
Other well-publicized fabrications:

•  A Muslim student at the University of Louisiana-Lafayette admitted making up the tale of two men, one in a “Trump hat,” assaulting her and tearing off her hijab.
•  Also owning up to a hoax was the guy who claimed he was assaulted in Malden, Mass., by two men chanting “Trump country.”
• White men allegedly accosted a University of Minnesota student, yelling at her to “go back to Asia.” Now police say they couldn’t verify the incident — and she responded by deleting her Facebook account.
• A Bowling Green U. student claimed men in Trump shirts threw rocks at her. But cellphone records show she wasn’t where she’d claimed during the incident — and on Facebook she said Trump backers should “all get AIDS.” She’s charged with obstruction.

Here in New York, of course, Yasmin Seweid was charged for falsely claiming she’d been beaten by men chanting, “Trump.”

In each case, the media accepted the initial story hook, line and sinker — and stressed the Trump angle.

Even without the Trump connection, the Times and other outlets ate up YouTuber Adam Saleh’s tale of being kicked off a flight just for speaking Arabic to his mom — which now stands exposed as yet another fake.

Which brings us to the larger point: A week or two back, the Times and its ilk were all over the threat of “fake news,” which supposdely enabled Trump’s election.

http://nypost.com/2016/12/22/the-fake-news-epidemic-that-doesnt-get-denounced/

 

[qliveur]

Again, what evidence do you have that the police and fire investigators don't ? Or are you of the mind that they are all part of some 'leftist' conspiracy?

Are you a bot?

 

[raildogg]

Why do people jump to conclusions? Were you there? Or do you trust CNN so much that you are willing to totally accept that this is a fact?

Remember, CNN has an agenda and so does Fox News. They are there for their own interests and to present a certain picture to the American sheeple.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Are you a bot?

He's Canadian.

 

[agent00f]

It's not a coincidence these are much the same people who think reports of rapes are fake in threads concerning that topic.

Rather makes sense they almost universally like Trump.

 

[raildogg]

Just like Fort Hood was workplace violence, or Benghazi was a video protest.
You want fake news, look left.

This whole war on terror joke is not from the left. It's the so-called nationalists who want to annihilate Muslims (for whatever reason). The violence the so-called nationalists have inflicted upon Muslims is many, many times more than what 9/11 was. This is not to excuse any form of violence against anybody.

It's not a left or right wing issue.

It's an issue of humans being heavily conditioned that they cannot see the real from the unreal.

 

[raildogg]

It's not a coincidence these are much the same people who think reports of rapes are fake in threads concerning that topic.

Rather makes sense they almost universally like Trump.

I think if more people started to look at their news with an open mind rather than simply believing it or denying it, maybe we'd have a more educated population.

Not everything you hear on the news is true. Not even close.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Are you a bot?

Hi

 

[agent00f]

I think if more people started to look at their news with an open mind rather than simply believing it or denying it, maybe we'd have a more educated population.

Not everything you hear on the news is true. Not even close.

Not sure who you're arguing against. The difference between real and fake news is that former corrects whatever speculation that might've occurred as more information becomes available, whereas the complete degenerates of which there are many examples here will forever believe what they hear on fox/breitbart about hate or sex crimes.

 

[desura]

Yeah, I thought that it would be a hoax.

Look, this is why we even have elections to begin with. So that people who get pissed off about something or another express their anger by voting and not setting fires to stuff.

Does anyone remember the Oberlin KKK incident? When it turned out to be this dumbass hipster ironic idiot.

What is happening is that when you're a young little kid you get taught about MLK's holy crusade for racial justice, and like the pump is primed. The modern media is obsessed with race to the exclusion of all other issues. It is really bad.

 

[raildogg]

Not sure who you're arguing against. The difference between real and fake news is that former corrects whatever speculation that might've occurred as more information becomes available, whereas the complete degenerates of which there are many examples here will forever believe what they hear on fox/breitbart about hate or sex crimes.

Yes that is true but the so-called mainstream media is entirely complicit in this terrible world we live in. They entirely pick and choose stories that adhere to the program, so to speak. So basically, what most people talk about is dictated by the mainstream media. Remember, this world has 6 or 7 billion people yet most of us are talking about a few dozen news stories popularized by the media. Did these stories just come out of nowhere or are they specifically chosen? And if they are chosen, what motivates the media to choose them/

The only real news, if you can even call it that, can only come from a person who is ONLY seeking truth and nothing else. If there is any other motive, then that story will be tainted.

Since only a tiny fraction of the population are concerned about only truth, that means that most of the supposed news you see and hear will not be entirely or partially truthful.

 

[raildogg]

What is happening is that when you're a young little kid you get taught about MLK's holy crusade for racial justice, and like the pump is primed. The modern media is obsessed with race to the exclusion of all other issues. It is really bad.

They are pushing racial divide, sexual divide, religious divide, political divide, cultural divide, economic divide and other countless divides.

But we people are still looking towards them for news!

When will we learn that the news is really propaganda?