State Of The Union Speech

[sportage]

Don't care what side you are on - that surprise welcome home of the soldier was awesome.

Come-on people.
IT WAS A FREAKIN STUNT.
A reality TV freakin stunt.
Reality TV, you know, like in Donald Trump and reality TV?

Think about this....
Every thing, EVERY THING that Donald Trump does MUST ALWAYS BE ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
Trump ""USED"" that lady and ""USED"" her kids just so it would benefit Donald Trump.
Trump uses Ukraine, and now Trump uses military families ONLY for his personal benefit.

Just imagine how long this returning soldier had to wait in hiding from his family until the State of the Union speech?
For when the time was just right for.... Donald Trump.

And I doubt this is over.....
Next, Trump will send the wife a bill for flying her husband home, and a bill for the taxi ride to the capitol chamber.

Always remember.... IT IS ALL ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
It is never about the troops or the families or America.
It is only about DONALD TRUMP.

 

[JEDIYoda]

That does not negate the fact there was already a thread.......I thought Canadians could read?

 

[Sunburn74]

Medal of freedom to rush Limbaugh? Are you serious? There are people out there doing gods work every day and he gives it to that blowhard

 

[1prophet]

literally nothing changes when Donald speakLis.
He's still the same piece of shit he always was. I wish people would just stop paying attention to him. Thats where he gets all his power, he's not smart enough to negotiate anything himself. His success is mostly our fault for caring about him.

Trump's success is mostly due to the continuously downward standards in a feels is most important, I think therefore I am, relative morality society, that puts self above all else,

along with the establishment republican and democrat parties abandoning the working class for the rich, celebrities, fringe social justice issues, identity politics and constantly electing politicians that pay lip service to the voters during elections and then turn around and take care of their rich benefactors once in office.

keep electing politicians that whisper sweet nothings into your ears

And then you all cry about the eventual outcome when the inevitable blowback punches you in the face.

 

[Dribble]

As an outsider I can see he's going to win isn't he. That's why the democrats looked so pissed, the guy knows how to push all the right buttons. Throwing s**t at him just makes him stronger, and the democrats don't have anyone with enough charisma to challenge him. Actual truth seems to have very little to do with American electoral politics it's just a charisma test.

 

[brycejones]

Trump's success is mostly due to the continuously downward standards in a feels is most important, I think therefore I am, relative morality society, that puts self above all else,

along with the establishment republican and democrat parties abandoning the working class for the rich, celebrities, fringe social justice issues, identity politics and constantly electing politicians that pay lip service to the voters during elections and then turn around and take care of their rich benefactors once in office.

keep electing politicians that whisper sweet nothings into your ears

And then you all cry about the eventual outcome when the inevitable blowback punches you in the face.

Stop blaming democrats for the GOP’s choices.

Also can you name one person who you do support and think would be a good choice for President?

 

[nOOky]

As an outsider I can see he's going to win isn't he. That's why the democrats looked so pissed, the guy knows how to push all the right buttons. Throwing s**t at him just makes him stronger, and the democrats don't have anyone with enough charisma to challenge him. Actual truth seems to have very little to do with American electoral politics it's just a charisma test.

He will likely win another 4 years, yes. Independents and quite a few younger voters aren't motivated enough to go to the polls in 2020. Voter turnout for a Dem won't be enough. Also the Senate will not flip either, so we can look forward to more of this. The only path forward is for a Democratic candidate to generate enough enthusiasm to bring anyone on the fence on board, currently there is no one.

 

[dawp]

As an outsider I can see he's going to win isn't he. That's why the democrats looked so pissed, the guy knows how to push all the right buttons. Throwing s**t at him just makes him stronger, and the democrats don't have anyone with enough charisma to challenge him. Actual truth seems to have very little to do with American electoral politics it's just a charisma test.

it's still too early to tell at this point, between now and november a lot can happen, like trump having a massive coronary or doing something so outrageous the republicans can't ignore, aww, who am I foolling, they will ignore everything he does no matter how bad.

 

[KMFJD]

Don't care what side you are on - that surprise welcome home of the soldier was awesome.

only thing that was awesome was the ending

https://twitter.com/x/status/1224897422972710912

 

[Mai72]

Nancy shouldn't had ripped up those papers. It just looked bad, and she looked like a bitter person. You could tell that Trump was getting under her skin.

In Asia it's very important to save face. Nancy should had done the same. Put on a big smile, and move on. Her reaction just played into Trump's hand, and it just gives him more ammo for the upcoming 2020 presidential election. Also, it looks like another 4years of Trump unless something BIG happens.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

As an outsider I can see he's going to win isn't he. That's why the democrats looked so pissed, the guy knows how to push all the right buttons. Throwing s**t at him just makes him stronger, and the democrats don't have anyone with enough charisma to challenge him. Actual truth seems to have very little to do with American electoral politics it's just a charisma test.

Full disclosure- I do not belong to any political party but my ideals skew to more humanitarian ideals. That leaves what I consider a very flawed party, the Democrats, over the singular horror that the GOP represents.

That said the American public and I suspect our species as a whole is significantly impacted by an individual charisma, a cult of personality, than the truths which are demonstrable. That being the case, Trump has a greater appeal then most Dems I can think of and the one that has a chance in that regard is the most disliked because he's like me- someone who isn't controllable by the powers that be and won't toe the standard business-as-usual line.

The GOP of has no prohibition against corruption or improper and illegal influence as we have witnessed so we can expect a stronger 2016-like campaign that the Dems are going to have trouble countering.

IMO Biden has the charisma of a codfish left out in the sun for a day too long although he is the most "Democrat" of the Democrats, a cog in the wheel who won't shake any boats. I feel that's the wrong approach, but whatever.

In the end, appealing to the good nature and intelligence of the voting public is a dubious undertaking as this past year's events along with the general response of apathy to them.

In spite of claims of "they are all to blame and we aren't responsible for our failures", that can only be said when all prudent options are exercised. In the case of Dems, in particular, the fault is often hubris and the resulting lack of foresight. The result is the shooting of the collective's foot, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

I suspect that will be the same this time around however the general dislike of Trump exceeds all other factors at least at this time.

Ripping up speeches is a result of the frustration of failure, as amusing as it was to see.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Nancy shouldn't had ripped up those papers. It just looked bad, and she looked like a bitter person. You could tell that Trump was getting under her skin.

In Asia it's very important to save face. Nancy should had done the same. Put on a big smile, and move on. Her reaction just played into Trump's hand, and it just gives him more ammo for the upcoming 2020 presidential election. Also, it looks like another 4years of Trump unless something BIG happens.

I agree. Smile then send in the assassins, the metaphorical political ones, that is.

 

[K1052]

Nancy shouldn't had ripped up those papers. It just looked bad, and she looked like a bitter person. You could tell that Trump was getting under her skin.

In Asia it's very important to save face. Nancy should had done the same. Put on a big smile, and move on. Her reaction just played into Trump's hand, and it just gives him more ammo for the upcoming 2020 presidential election. Also, it looks like another 4years of Trump unless something BIG happens.

Is she...running against him? Maybe in the broadest possible sense but if the last few years has taught us anything this will be forgotten in days because Trump has the news cycle cranked up like a herd of raccoons on meth. If the Trumpists can't find anything to point at and say "see those Dems are bad" they'll simply make it up as they often do. The pearl clutching much of the media is conducting over such a negligible breach of decorum next to a man who has absolutely fucking shredded decency, tradition, and basic humanity at every turn is nauseating. It's most likely because she's the wrong sex to take such actions.

 

[shortylickens]

Stop blaming democrats for the GOP’s choices.

Also can you name one person who you do support and think would be a good choice for President?

Fine. We'll blame the democrats for the democrats choices.
They (Debbie Wasserman shultz) fucked Bernie up the ass to promote a woman who would lose to Donald.
They let the opposition bulldoze them during the impeachment process.
They fight each other constantly ensuring easy wins for the republicans in every federal and most state elections.
They cant get their shit organized well enough to do anything good for Americans.
They cant lie worth a damn but they keep doing it anyways.
They whine way too much to the American public about stuff we can't fix until they get their act together.
Theres a couple other nitpicks but its early and my brain is mush.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Fine. We'll blame the democrats for the democrats choices.
They (Debbie Wasserman shultz) fucked Bernie up the ass to promote a woman who would lose to Donald.
They let the opposition bulldoze them during the impeachment process.
They fight each other constantly ensuring easy wins for the republicans in every federal and most state elections.
They cant get their shit organized well enough to do anything good for Americans.
They cant lie worth a damn but they keep doing it anyways.
They whine way too much to the American public about stuff we can't fix until they get their act together.
Theres a couple other nitpicks but its early and my brain is mush.

What?? They proved that Trump is guilty in the Impeachment, the Republic Senator's have said so, and this is even with all of the obstruction from Trump. Yet, they are still going to give him an aquittal... Not sure how you can chalk this up as a democrat failure.

Also not sure where you are getting the Dems are lying??

Then you say they need to get their act together and can't do any good.. Yet they have passed over 400 bills, where most are being blocked from ever hitting the Senate floor. The Senate has passed what.. 70 bills .. again, I don't see where this adds up to the democrats not doing any good.

Then here we have the SOTU, which was nothing more than a campaign rally

Time you stop ignoring the source of the problem, which is THE BIG REPUBLICAN ELEPHANT IN THE CORNER.

 

[dank69]

Fine. We'll blame the democrats for the democrats choices.
They (Debbie Wasserman shultz) fucked Bernie up the ass to promote a woman who would lose to Donald.
They let the opposition bulldoze them during the impeachment process.
They fight each other constantly ensuring easy wins for the republicans in every federal and most state elections.
They cant get their shit organized well enough to do anything good for Americans.
They cant lie worth a damn but they keep doing it anyways.
They whine way too much to the American public about stuff we can't fix until they get their act together.
Theres a couple other nitpicks but its early and my brain is mush.

The first point is false and I'd love to hear your opinion about what the Dems could have done better with respect to point 2. Regarding points 4 and 6, the Dems have not held a majority long enough in the last few decades to get anything but the ACA passed. Most of Clinton's accomplishments were "bipartisan" bills that were actually just GOP bills with a few concessions, and honestly, the ACA was arguably the same thing.

 

[brycejones]

my brain is mush.

You should have led with this.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Notice that none of the commentary is about Trump's bold new policy objectives. Because there weren't any. It was self-congratulatory campaign material, interrupted by Oprah style moments.

Just like every other State of the Union, none of this will be remembered in a week. Not the speech, not the handshake, not the ripped papers, and not the response.

And right on cue, all the right wingers are claiming that Nancy Pelosi disrespected Scholarship Girl, Returning War Fighter, and Space Force Boy. But Trump can tear up and wipe his ass with the Constitution and they get the vaproz over somebody tearing up a stupid ritual speech. Right, Trump's really got the "dignified and mature" vote sewn up thanks to this.

 

[Greenman]

I didn't watch, but based on what I'm reading here it was probably worth seeing. Off to youtube.

 

[theeedude]

Watch Nancy tear up Trump's speech, https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-pelosi-rips-up-trumps-state-of-the-union-speech Make no mistake though, Trump knows 75% of people will not bother fact-checking that 1.25 hr of utter bullshit he just spewed out, any Democratic challenger must ditch truth and integrity to beat this made for TV POS.

50% of those 75% won't bother fact checking it because they know it's utter bullshit already.

 

[Zivic]

Fine. We'll blame the democrats for the democrats choices.
They (Debbie Wasserman shultz) fucked Bernie up the ass to promote a woman who would lose to Donald.
They let the opposition bulldoze them during the impeachment process.
They fight each other constantly ensuring easy wins for the republicans in every federal and most state elections.
They cant get their shit organized well enough to do anything good for Americans.
They cant lie worth a damn but they keep doing it anyways.
They whine way too much to the American public about stuff we can't fix until they get their act together.
Theres a couple other nitpicks but its early and my brain is mush.

Great post. Finally someone here breaks the echo chamber of this forum

 

[UNCjigga]

Gonna give credit where it’s due—I didn’t think he was capable of making it through the whole night without mentioning impeachment. But he did it. And I think it worked for him.

 

[HomerJS]

Wow! This is the most black people I’ve seen in trumps company. Hmm...I wonder what demographic he is going to go after for this election?

Haven't seen that many people of color near Trump since the maintenance crew at Mar-a-Largo

 

[HomerJS]

You should do some searching before you post all mad at Trump. Hate him as much as you want but at least get the facts.

Trump Offers China 'Any Help' to Fight Coronavirus

Offer comes as Chinese premier visits Wuhan as virus death toll hits 81, sickens more than 2,700

www.voanews.com

Really? You want to talk facts? Check out my thread on Trump defunding our countries ability to deal with world-wide pandemics.

 

[HomerJS]

Daemn Trump is pulling out all tyhe stops!! Now bringing a man back from deployment....

Was he still wearing his chains?