State of the Union Address?

[Vic]

Everyone that disagrees with you guys is a troll to you. At least the liberals here have mostly stopped suggesting I"m a Russian bot. It is a good first step back to reality.

They do that because you never take any personal responsibility for the times when you are proven wrong, for when you are proven a liar, and for your overall inability to debate in any form of good faith.
For example, you're complaining about being called a troll or a bot, while all you do to people who disagree with you is call them names, tell lies about them, or argue your straw men. If someone says they want more equal opportunity, you call them socialists. If someone says they want more social justice, you call them the 'real racists.' And your latest trick, if a woman suffers the tragedy of a stillborn baby, you call it a 'post birth abortion' and murder, purely for partisan reasons.
That's the kind of sick fuck you are, and people treat you accordingly, as you treat them. Hopefully, you take some personal responsibility for it someday, and quit playing the victim.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Ah...it all makes sense now, you have mommy issues.

Nah, we're close, great now even. But, I wasn't' well off and didn't come from a all white area, don't benefit from scholarships or affirmative action, and had my own challenges. I could take two paths, say things were stacked against me and blame society for everything, or I could soldier forward and try to get over the hurdles placed in front of me to succeed. Today the Democrats push the latter, they push a narrative that the system is broke and against you, so do nothing and demand everything. Lower the bar.

 

[Homerboy]

Sorry guy, but I am an example of the former. My dad had an average middle class job, my mother was hardly around. I grew up in an area where I was by far the minority, at least at my school and in my neighborhood and those around me (Milwaukee in the 80's). All I hear are excuses made for those that refuse to put effort in and continued rewarding of such behavior by the left. You continue to lower the bar and society shows it.

Ah shit. Slow is from MKE? Time to move.

 

[Vic]

And of course, my last post will go unchallenged as well. He just went to back to beating up on the same old tired straw men, while pretending (yet again) that he's something special.

But hey, guys, if only people didn't do stupid irresponsible shit, all of the world's problems would be solved. Holy fuck, what genius! How is it that no one ever thought of that before? Somebody call the Nobel committee!

 

[SlowSpyder]

Ah shit. Slow is from MKE? Time to move.

If you have a job and support yourself, the trend is for people like you to leave blue cities and states. Wonder why?

 

[HomerJS]

Nah, we're close, great now even. But, I wasn't' well off and didn't come from a all white area, don't benefit from scholarships or affirmative action, and had my own challenges. I could take two paths, say things were stacked against me and blame society for everything, or I could soldier forward and try to get over the hurdles placed in front of me to succeed. Today the Democrats push the latter, they push a narrative that the system is broke and against you, so do nothing and demand everything. Lower the bar.

If anyone is lowering the bar its Republicans on morals, behavior, truth telling and loyalty to this nation. Just open your eyes.

Clearly even Republicans don't follow that mantra. That's why blue states Democrat are makers and red states Republican are takers.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Trump calling for unity is like a Kardashian calling for chastity.

Immigrants are coming to kill us, the economy is great, don’t investigate me, our allies are treating us badly … Like Trump’s previous congressional addresses, this is a standard Trump stump speech with better grammar.

 

[SlowSpyder]

They do that because you never take any personal responsibility for the times when you are proven wrong, for when you are proven a liar, and for your overall inability to debate in any form of good faith.
For example, you're complaining about being called a troll or a bot, while all you do to people who disagree with you is call them names, tell lies about them, or argue your straw men. If someone says they want more equal opportunity, you call them socialists. If someone says they want more social justice, you call them the 'real racists.' And your latest trick, if a woman suffers the tragedy of a stillborn baby, you call it a 'post birth abortion' and murder, purely for partisan reasons.
That's the kind of sick fuck you are, and people treat you accordingly, as you treat them. Hopefully, you take some personal responsibility for it someday, and quit playing the victim.

I've not been proven wrong and do not lie. I want equal opportunity too, so when do we get rid of affirmative action?

And FFS, I am not talking about a still born baby. If late term abortion was already absolutely forbidden then Trump wouldn't have brought up banning it and the left wouldn't have lost their collective shit over it.

 

[Homerboy]

If you have a job and support yourself, the trend is for people like you to leave blue cities and states. Wonder why?

Honestly, I live and work in the city every day. I was raised outside of MKE and moved in when I got married and had kids. Best decision I've ever made in my life and wouldn't change it. I ride the bus to and from work. My kids go to public school. My wife owns a business. I honestly don't get your "wonder why" comment at all.

 

[Vic]

If you have a job and support yourself, the trend is for people like you to leave blue cities and states. Wonder why?

Because that's the exact opposite of reality?

 

[HomerJS]

I've not been proven wrong and do not lie. I want equal opportunity too, so when do we get rid of affirmative action?

And FFS, I am not talking about a still born baby. If late term abortion was already absolutely forbidden then Trump wouldn't have brought up banning it and the left wouldn't have lost their collective shit over it.

When people of color are treated equally.

Oh and BTW - you act like Trump hasn't taken things that work break them in an attempt to take credit for a fix.

JCPOA
NATO
Asia-Pacific trade agreement

 

[SlowSpyder]

When people of color are treated equally.

They are. I have worked in IT for over 20 years, I've never seen a situation where a woman is hired at 25% less or whatever the false narrative is. If that was true, why wouldn't companies hire all women and save big money? Companies are profit driven, the best person for the job should be hired. You and your kind simply want to lower the bar and make excuses for an inability to achieve, even though every opportunity to achieve is right in front of us all.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Because that's the exact opposite of reality?

Honestly, I live and work in the city every day. I was raised outside of MKE and moved in when I got married and had kids. Best decision I've ever made in my life and wouldn't change it. I ride the bus to and from work. My kids go to public school. My wife owns a business. I honestly don't get your "wonder why" comment at all.

Blue state exodus. I'm the one that's living in reality here.

Homerboy, I grew up by Northridge mall, Brown Deer road area if you're familiar.

 

[Vic]

I've not been proven wrong and do not lie. I want equal opportunity too, so when do we get rid of affirmative action?

And FFS, I am not talking about a still born baby. If late term abortion was already absolutely forbidden then Trump wouldn't have brought up banning it and the left wouldn't have lost their collective shit over it.

Lol, the very first sign of a liar is that they can't admit to ever being wrong. As it's impossible to never be wrong, anyone who says they're never wrong must be lying.
And we've already discussed affirmative action, and you've already that you're against it because you got passed up for a promotion more qualified, but that you just can't admit that's the case.

As for late term abortion, Trump brought that to rile up people like you, who are ignorant to the fact that it is absolutely forbidden, except in cases when the fetus is already non-viable (ie stillborn) and the mother's life is in imminent danger. The left lost their shit, as you say, because people like you are dishonestly trying to use those 2 extremely rare exceptions as proof that "the left" is for late term abortion in all cases.

I did not fail to notice that you overlooked how you are being treated as you treat others. You complain about being called names by people who disagree with you, yet all you here do here is namecall everyone that disagrees with you.

 

[VRAMdemon]

His speech was an election pivot. He assuaged his base with tough immigration talk, but he reached out to moderates. He repudiated traditional Republican views that don't sit well with the electorate (foreign interventionism, free trade, anti-Obama care) and coopted Democratic views that do (no pre-existing condition denial, paid maternity leave, Joe Biden's cancer 'moonshot', ) This isn't to say that this is a masterstroke and fortunately he still has plenty of weaknesses to exploit, but he's pushing Democrats into a corner. What exactly are they standing for in 2020?

He's grabbing the populist issues like trade and punishing China as well as anti-war and pro-healthcare and he's pushing women's rights issues so where does that leave unique Democratic positions? It forces them to tack farther left. That has always been a difficult platform to win on in the US. Their big advantage is civil rights, but he actually called for raising the number of legal immigration visas and he keeps pushing that narrative that minority unemployment is at an all-time low, that's not necessarily fooling anyone, but it makes the case harder. You can only pound on Charlottesville for so long before people tune it out. Dems are in a tough position. They can either advance those moderate popular items and then Trump takes credit for them or they can obstruct and Trump can say "Look, I wanted to give you this, but they won't let me." Of course, I'm sure that he'll forget about most of them by tomorrow and go back to name-calling, but if he does play the hand, it could mean trouble for the Dems. I think also that late-term abortion is going to be a thorn in Dem candidates sides. It's not a popular view except among the far left, but they'll be forced to support it to win their primaries. It's not good and Trump knows it.

The speech though was disjointed and it seemed obvious that he is an extremely lazy person. He missed pauses and cues which indicates that he didn't bother to actually study the speech before he gave it. I would have loved to have seen a question-answer afterwards with him since I doubt he even really knew all of the stuff he was saying let alone a plan to get there.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Lol, the very first sign of a liar is that they can't admit to ever being wrong. As it's impossible to never be wrong, anyone who says they're never wrong must be lying.
And we've already discussed affirmative action, and you've already that you're against it because you got passed up for a promotion more qualified, but that you just can't admit that's the case.

Speaking of lying...

As for late term abortion, Trump brought that to rile up people like you, who are ignorant to the fact that it is absolutely forbidden, except in cases when the fetus is already non-viable (ie stillborn) and the mother's life is in imminent danger. The left lost their shit, as you say, because people like you are dishonestly trying to use those 2 extremely rare exceptions as proof that "the left" is for late term abortion in all cases.

I did not fail to notice that you overlooked how you are being treated as you treat others. You complain about being called names by people who disagree with you, yet all you here do here is namecall everyone that disagrees with you.

Tell me yes or no, is it absolutely impossible for a woman to get a late term abortion if she had depression and decided late into the pregnancy that this was a health issue for her? Can you tell me with 100% certainty that no abortion could ever go forward today in any state given that situation?

 

[Homerboy]

Blue state exodus. I'm the one that's living in reality here.

Homerboy, I grew up by Northridge mall, Brown Deer road area if you're familiar.

I'm familiar. Have friends and/or family that have and/or still live there.

 

[HomerJS]

They are. I have worked in IT for over 20 years, I've never seen a situation where a woman is hired at 25% less or whatever the false narrative is. If that was true, why wouldn't companies hire all women and save big money? Companies are profit driven, the best person for the job should be hired. You and your kind simply want to lower the bar and make excuses for an inability to achieve, even though every opportunity to achieve is right in front of us all.

Are you claiming minorities are treated equally by the criminal justice system??

Studies time and time again have proven job applicants with "black" sounding names get significantly fewer callbacks then applicants with "white" sounding names.

Did you happen to notice all of Trump's appointments in the cabinet and West Wing. It's affirmative action for whites people.

You have little room to bitch

 

[Vic]

Speaking of lying...



Tell me yes or no, is it absolutely impossible for a woman to get a late term abortion if she had depression and decided late into the pregnancy that this was a health issue for her? Can you tell me with 100% certainty that no abortion could ever go forward today in any state given that situation?

Nope, that is what you said.

And yes, that is impossible. Depression is not life threatening. And if such a thing has happened, I'm sure you could find an actual example.

Keep being that poor oppressed victim, bro. It's what you do best.

 

[Vic]

Blue state exodus. I'm the one that's living in reality here.

Homerboy, I grew up by Northridge mall, Brown Deer road area if you're familiar.

And yet all but 2 of the 8 states with declining population growth are red states.
https://www.businessinsider.com/her...s-population-grew-or-shrank-in-a-year-2017-12

 

[Commodus]

Sorry guy, but I am an example of the former. My dad had an average middle class job, my mother was hardly around. I grew up in an area where I was by far the minority, at least at my school and in my neighborhood and those around me (Milwaukee in the 80's). All I hear are excuses made for those that refuse to put effort in and continued rewarding of such behavior by the left. You continue to lower the bar and society shows it.

I'm not saying you can't rise up, but don't pretend that's very likely... and really, you're going to say you faced tough odds as part of a middle-class Milwaukee family in the '80s? You have no idea what a difficult upbringing is like.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I'm not saying you can't rise up, but don't pretend that's very likely... and really, you're going to say you faced tough odds as part of a middle-class Milwaukee family in the '80s? You have no idea what a difficult upbringing is like.

But why isn't it likely? Because of bad and/or irresponsible decisions on the part of the individual or because the system is really so stacked against that person?

You collectively left part out of my upbringing and have no idea how things were for me. But really, that part doesn't matter, the above is what is relevant.

 

[HomerJS]

But why isn't it likely? Because of bad and/or irresponsible decisions on the part of the individual or because the system is really so stacked against that person?

You collectively left part out of my upbringing and have no idea how things were for me. But really, that part doesn't matter, the above is what is relevant.

You support a pathological liar so you likely are lying yourself.

 

[zinfamous]

Speaking of lying...



Tell me yes or no, is it absolutely impossible for a woman to get a late term abortion if she had depression and decided late into the pregnancy that this was a health issue for her? Can you tell me with 100% certainty that no abortion could ever go forward today in any state given that situation?

Ah, off to the TH-style of "Inventing impossible standards that no one would ever take seriously" method of gish-galloping away from owning a completely broken and thoroughly trashed argument.

Fuck off, troll.

 

[Vic]

I'm not saying you can't rise up, but don't pretend that's very likely... and really, you're going to say you faced tough odds as part of a middle-class Milwaukee family in the '80s? You have no idea what a difficult upbringing is like.

Dude, he totes pulled himself up by his bootstraps by maintaining the same class status as his parents!