State department: Hillary did not comply with policies

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Phoenix86

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Using her black berry was not against policy. Communicating classified material with it is but your link can't prove that classified material was transmitted through it.

There's the goalpost shift. It's not like I said this wasn't going to happen, oh wait! I did. :D

So thanks for helping me show why legendkillers claims were bullshit. Should I pm you when he wants to act like a little bitch or do you want him to fight his own battles?

And complete disregard for everything you wanted some proof on, while throwing some ad hominems at legendkiller to boot! Please don't PM me, I have plenty of stupid people at work to deal with.
 

Bart*Simpson

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"Did not comply with policy"

Not

"Violated Laws"

Nice twirly-spinny thingy you did there.

The policy was in place to comply with the Federal Records Act, which is a law.

Where I work we also have policies that are in place so that we comply with applicable laws. If I break one of those particular policies then I am also breaking the law.

Example: Your employer has a policy about not embezzling money from your employer. If you break that policy then guess what? You're not immune from prosecution for breaking the law about embezzlement.

Funny how that works.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
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There's the goalpost shift. It's not like I said this wasn't going to happen, oh wait! I did. :D



And complete disregard for everything you wanted some proof on, while throwing some ad hominems at legendkiller to boot! Please don't PM me, I have plenty of stupid people at work to deal with.
This is why I didn't bother linking in the first place, even though I think you did a great job. He doesn't care. He knew all of the info, he just wants to plug his ears.

As I said before, you could have had that post notarized by God snd he'd still disregard it.

I find it hilarious that his justification was that the blackberry wasn't against policy. Her whole fucking server, which the blackberry accessed, was against policy and, in fact, she was expressly told that blackberries that were secure enough to meet the standards required for nsa security of government communications would not be available to her which touched off the whole thing.

That anybody could deny that such blatant disregard for security is utterly ridiculous borders on insanity.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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By logic we know she had classified info on her server which would be accessible on her blackberry.

Furthermore, secured blackberries weren't going to be issued to her, which is why she created her own server, this she knew she was creating an unsecured link and circumvented security policies in yet another manner.

I mean, really, the mental gymnastics are breathtaking.

Lol!
For one, no classified info should be on any server so the claim that there must have been is wishful thinking on your part at worst and at best, any classified info was already known to the public.

Second, her server was already created and in use by her husband before she took office. She setup her bb email on that server to make doing her job easier because she is a technofobe and using a secure office computer was too difficult.

None of that makes it right, which is why I've never said otherwise.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Because you don't add anything of substance.

Not only did I respond promptly to the poster that did the work for you but I also responded to your post.

So if you want to call me out on not adding substance then I suggest you look in the mirror first.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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This is why I didn't bother linking in the first place, even though I think you did a great job. He doesn't care. He knew all of the info, he just wants to plug his ears.

As I said before, you could have had that post notarized by God snd he'd still disregard it.

I find it hilarious that his justification was that the blackberry wasn't against policy. Her whole fucking server, which the blackberry accessed, was against policy and, in fact, she was expressly told that blackberries that were secure enough to meet the standards required for nsa security of government communications would not be available to her which touched off the whole thing.

That anybody could deny that such blatant disregard for security is utterly ridiculous borders on insanity.

Throw more straw!
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Lol!
For one, no classified info should be on any server so the claim that there must have been is wishful thinking on your part at worst and at best, any classified info was already known to the public.

Second, her server was already created and in use by her husband before she took office. She setup her bb email on that server to make doing her job easier because she is a technofobe and using a secure office computer was too difficult.

None of that makes it right, which is why I've never said otherwise.

Yeah, that's why they found classified info....

Furthermore, her claim that everything related to work was turned over has been proven utterly false, key emails showing she knew her server was being hacked and knew she was circumventing policy have been found. So what could else could have been on there?
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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Rules, clearly, are for the unwashed masses. Elites like Clinton should be allowed to pick and choose according to what works best for them.

Yet again I find Hillary's imperious sense of entitlement completely nauseating.
Oh, I agree 100%. But can you honestly say you find it unique among D.C. denizens?

She is the worst, or rather, among the worst. She is not a different animal.

fail. no the rules when Powell was in office were fluid and in their infancy. by the time Clinton got in office the rules were completely different and hardened.
For email, certainly. But requirements for handing classified documents and preserving federal records very much predate Powell's email.

I'm not 100% sure that Powell's emails were more secure than Hillary's either. A large commercial service server is very much more secure than something set up by political hacks, certainly. However, large commercial services have a LOT of people, one of whom could conceivably be subverted. By contrast, the Clintons choose their people based first and foremost on personal loyalty; they might conceivably be harder to subvert, and there is certainly no anonymity. Biggest problem as I see it is that the Clintons' personnel aren't particularly skillful; they suspect a penetration, so they shut down the server, because that's what they know to do. That's a world of difference between the State Department or a large commercial service's response team.

There's the goalpost shift. It's not like I said this wasn't going to happen, oh wait! I did. :D

And complete disregard for everything you wanted some proof on, while throwing some ad hominems at legendkiller to boot! Please don't PM me, I have plenty of stupid people at work to deal with.
lmao!

You, sir, are made of win.
 

michal1980

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fail. no the rules when Powell was in office were fluid and in their infancy. by the time Clinton got in office the rules were completely different and hardened.

the report stated that powell did something similar.

BUT, it also added that:

"but added the rules had grown “considerably more detailed and more sophisticated” by the time Mrs. Clinton came into office."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary...-use-after-critical-report-1464297239?tesla=y

liberals just ignore facts.
 

theeedude

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Seriously people think that hosting it on Yahoo or Hotmail is better than having a private server?
 

compuwiz1

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I read somewhere today that Bernie doesn't drop out until the FBI does. Hell, even the mainstream media, whom I always felt was in the tank for Hillary, is now reporting on the IG report, when they did little reporting on her emails in the past.
 

Zorkorist

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What you read was that the post by a media organization was so damning that the FBI has to act.

-John
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
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Not only did I respond promptly to the poster that did the work for you but I also responded to your post.

So if you want to call me out on not adding substance then I suggest you look in the mirror first.

You call that a reply?

I know your works. You are neither cold nor hot. So because you are lukewarm, I will spew you out of my mouth.
 

buckshot24

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I read somewhere today that Bernie doesn't drop out until the FBI does. Hell, even the mainstream media, whom I always felt was in the tank for Hillary, is now reporting on the IG report, when they did little reporting on her emails in the past.
I have a hard time imagining Bernie getting in even if Hillary gets indicted. Uncle Joe could swing in from the rafters.
 

werepossum

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Seriously people think that hosting it on Yahoo or Hotmail is better than having a private server?
It's certainly better able for the people's ability to hold government officials accountable, since people running Yahoo or Hotmail are unlikely to risk prison to protect any particular person's political viability. By contrast, the Clintons select their people based primarily on personal loyalty. Security at Yahoo or Hotmail is also going to be vastly better than at Mrs. Clinton's pet server, because they have vast teams of people who work twenty-four seven to protect against intrusion. Absolute security for a target of SecState's stature - who knows? The greater security resources of Yahoo or Hotmail has to be balanced against the greater physical security of the Clinton residence and the smaller number of people available to be compromised. I'd still come down in favor of Yahoo or Hotmail considering that the people selected to run the Clinton server weren't even certified for sensitive data and appear to have gone through no background vetting whatsoever. But it's certainly arguable either way, especially since we don't even know for sure (to my knowledge anyway) that Powell used a large commercial service with a sensitive data service. If not, then Powell's data may well have been hosted on randomly located servers with little physical or virtual security, so that the SecState's account would be accessible to people with nothing more than a basic background check. And let's not forget, in her first two months in office the Clinton server operated without digital certificate encryption - EVERY email was transmitted in plain text - and for several months, its "security team" was working a day job at State and moonlighting as her server management team.