State department: Hillary did not comply with policies

[Knowing]

Yep. Security pinheads are unbound from reality, no doubt.



Any information of that server came from unsecured sources. Any of it that was classified was released into the wild by somebody other than her office. If you want to blame her for not closing the barn door after the horses got out you paint yourself as a partisan fool.

Unbound how, exactly? Remember, there are thousands of people who handle sensitive or classified emails every day without screwing up.

I'm not convinced that her office did not scrub documents of their caveats, and even if someone else did it first that isn't an excuse. Of course, if she had used the state department's infrastructure we wouldn't have to discuss the open barn doors of her Mickey Mouse server.

I dislike the Democrat party for reasons that also fit in the Hillary Clinton Venn diagram bubble, and incidentally the Republican party bubble. I reject your assertion that I have some obligation to look the other way because your favored Queen to be is implicated. If there is evidence that another SoS intentionally ran their own email server to conveniently (but certainly not intentionally) end ruin records keeping requirements (even the NYT has published stories about her curious history with documentation) or made sensitive data vulnerable then let's put them in jail too. I know this isn't the first time I have said this.



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[werepossum]

Unbound how, exactly? Remember, there are thousands of people who handle sensitive or classified emails every day without screwing up.

I'm not convinced that her office did not scrub documents of their caveats, and even if someone else did it first that isn't an excuse. Of course, if she had used the state department's infrastructure we wouldn't have to discuss the open barn doors of her Mickey Mouse server.

I dislike the Democrat party for reasons that also fit in the Hillary Clinton Venn diagram bubble, and incidentally the Republican party bubble. I reject your assertion that I have some obligation to look the other way because your favored Queen to be is implicated. If there is evidence that another SoS intentionally ran their own email server to conveniently (but certainly not intentionally) end ruin records keeping requirements (even the NYT has published stories about her curious history with documentation) or made sensitive data vulnerable then let's put them in jail too. I know this isn't the first time I have said this.



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Hillary keeping her own server is unique, but not all that different from Powell using a commercial server or the Bushies moving official business discussions to their existing RNC server. She is at the top of the slime bucket, but they are all in the same bucket. Bring me a plan to empty the bucket and we'll talk, but skimming the top of the bucket, while useful from time to time, just brings another POS to be top turd. And there is no guarantee that the next top turd won't be even worse.

 

[Jhhnn]

Unbound how, exactly? Remember, there are thousands of people who handle sensitive or classified emails every day without screwing up.

Gawd. Reality is that the information that was supposed to be kept secret was not. It's pointless to pretend to the contrary.

I'm not convinced that her office did not scrub documents of their caveats, and even if someone else did it first that isn't an excuse. Of course, if she had used the state department's infrastructure we wouldn't have to discuss the open barn doors of her Mickey Mouse server.

Of course you're not convinced. This is the standard right wing ploy of demanding that the accused prove a negative. As to the second part, if it is improper to further disseminate information that has escaped into the open internet then the use of one server over another is immaterial. The same accusations apply to any server.

I dislike the Democrat party for reasons that also fit in the Hillary Clinton Venn diagram bubble, and incidentally the Republican party bubble. I reject your assertion that I have some obligation to look the other way because your favored Queen to be is implicated. If there is evidence that another SoS intentionally ran their own email server to conveniently (but certainly not intentionally) end ruin records keeping requirements (even the NYT has published stories about her curious history with documentation) or made sensitive data vulnerable then let's put them in jail too. I know this isn't the first time I have said this.



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When what should be classified information arrives at the office of the SoS thru the open internet it's pointless to move that information to a secured system or to pretend that it has not escaped into the wild. Nor is it as if such information were released to the general public.

The office of the SoS has a job to do & the sharing of information among the staff is critical in a time sensitive way, obviously.

Your contention that any SoS should be jailed for making a good faith effort to serve the people is absurd, existing only on the basis of extreme partisanship.

 

[Svnla]

Don't look like an honest mistake = https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...nigans-sure-don-t-look-like-an-honest-mistake

Hilary ignored repeated warnings about emails = https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-ignored-multiple-warnings-181724012.html


Hilary violated record keeping rule = http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/20...clinton-broke-email-rules-evan-perez-lead.cnn


Rules are for little people, right Hilary? Keep telling that you are working for the common folks over and over again. I am sure some fools would believe that lie. LOL.

 

[OutHouse]

You left off the part that said "Her and other Secretaries of State have violated policy" and the part where they said something about their email policy & systems need updating.

fail, par for the course for you.

 

[OutHouse]

When what should be classified information arrives at the office of the SoS thru the open internet it's pointless to move that information to a secured system

yea they should tack it on the corkboard in the lobby for all to see!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[OutHouse]

Any information of that server came from unsecured sources. Any of it that was classified was released into the wild by somebody other than her office.

wow dude, you must know hillary personally. you sure do have a lot of inside info on how this all went down.

 

[theeedude]

So when's Colin Powell getting indicted?

 

[OutHouse]

For a woman lining herself up to be president for the last 20 years, she does commit an uncomfortable number of unforced errors.

hahah nicely said.

 

[OutHouse]

The fact that I'll basically have no choice but to vote for this woman tells you how sad our state of affairs has become.

no choice?

 

[OutHouse]

So when's Colin Powell getting indicted?

why should he? Clinton hosted her email on a private server located in her home. Powell did not. if you dont understand the difference then then go find it yourself.

 

[trenchfoot]

So the Repubs have realized that the only way they are going to seize the White House is to drag Hillary down into the gutters where they now sullenly reside rather than standing tall and resume pitching their ideology that features trickle down economics(proven failed), making America great again(wut?), family values(see Congressional Hall of Shame), Christian fundamentalism(Westboro), ejecting all illegal immigrants(while they keep hiring them), hating on Gays and abortions(constitutionally protected), jerb creators!(while they off-shore jobs like crazy) deregulate(as Wall Street and Big Business gleefully continues to scam the public), ad nauseam.

Well, on second thought, it seems dragging down Hillary to their level of "popularity" isn't such a bad idea after all.

 

[werepossum]

Don't look like an honest mistake = https://www.bloomberg.com/view/arti...nigans-sure-don-t-look-like-an-honest-mistake

Hilary ignored repeated warnings about emails = https://www.yahoo.com/news/hillary-clinton-ignored-multiple-warnings-181724012.html


Hilary violated record keeping rule = http://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/20...clinton-broke-email-rules-evan-perez-lead.cnn

Rules are for little people, right Hilary? Keep telling that you are working for the common folks over and over again. I am sure some fools would believe that lie. LOL.

Mo' debinitely not an honest mistake, she sent out multiple emails warning all her "underlings" (to use Jhhnn's term) not to ever do the exact same thing she was always doing.

why should he? Clinton hosted her email on a private server located in her home. Powell did not. if you dont understand the difference then then go find it yourself.

Hillary's breach is by far the most egregious and blatant, but they violated the exact same laws and regulations. Plus, Hillary only held back or edited out things she found politically damaging or threatening; Powell turned in nothing. I do not see how Hillary could be indicted without Powell being indicted. For that matter, the Bush White House got caught doing also using private email (the RNC's IIRC) to discuss official business, including (someone correct me if I'm wrong) classified info.

I have zero problem if the FBI wants to indict the lot of them, but I do not like the idea of Hillary alone being indicted.

So the Repubs have realized that the only way they are going to seize the White House is to drag Hillary down into the gutters where they now sullenly reside rather than standing tall and resume pitching their ideology that features trickle down economics(proven failed), making America great again(wut?), family values(see Congressional Hall of Shame), Christian fundamentalism(Westboro), ejecting all illegal immigrants(while they keep hiring them), hating on Gays and abortions(constitutionally protected), jerb creators!(while they off-shore jobs like crazy) deregulate(as Wall Street and Big Business gleefully continues to scam the public), ad nauseam.

Well, on second thought, it seems dragging down Hillary to their level of "popularity" isn't such a bad idea after all.

Drag Hillary down into the gutters? Hillary could only be dragged up into the gutters from when she preferentially resides, in the comforting and ever-so-useful darkness of the sewers.

 

[Subyman]

I don't see the actual act as being that big of a deal. I think it was a slip in policy that the state department needs to deal with (and are now.) I think she could have handled it better though. If she got out in front of it when it was first being brought up then I think this could have been well behind her. She has cooperated, but her hand waving away the issue with some of her quips was dumb IMO. She should have completely owned it without marginalizing the issue.

As for it being a major issue for the election, I don't see it. Most people don't care. They haven't found any piece of email that risked lives. If they can show X email caused X major issue then they might have something, but other than that, it was a systemic slip in procedure that has now been addressed.

Out of everything she did as Secretary of State we are talking about were she stored her emails. Sounds like she did okay. (Well, and Benghazi, but that's another thing. Again how she handled the aftermath IMO is worst thing she did.)

 

[LegendKiller]

So when's Colin Powell getting indicted?

Ask Andrea Mitchell about that. The "he did it first" argument is ridiculous.

1. He was the first sec to ever use email.

2. Everybody knew he did it

3. It wasn't his own server which was prone to attack

4. Rules didn't exist

5. He didn't blatantly circumvent security, using unsecured servers and devices, knowing full well that they were against said rules.

6. His server wasn't being attacked thus he couldn't have failed to notify the state department of such attacks. She knew it was being attacked and failed to tell them. Furthermore, she was specifically notified that hackers were going after high profile politicians and yet she still persisted in using a home brew server in her basement.

7. She knew her blackberry was unsecured yet traveled abroad using it.

The list goes on and on. Face it, she flagrantly disregarded well know rules and standards for security and her only defense is some guy 10 years ago did something not nearly as bad 10 years ago.

Foe fucks sake. She is supposed to be in charge of our most secret info and she can't even be bothered to not use a blackberry because she feels entitled. And yet you guys defend her. Not even Andrea Mitchell is defending her. That should tell you something.

 

[LegendKiller]

So the Repubs have realized that the only way they are going to seize the White House is to drag Hillary down into the gutters where they now sullenly reside rather than standing tall and resume pitching their ideology that features trickle down economics(proven failed), making America great again(wut?), family values(see Congressional Hall of Shame), Christian fundamentalism(Westboro), ejecting all illegal immigrants(while they keep hiring them), hating on Gays and abortions(constitutionally protected), jerb creators!(while they off-shore jobs like crazy) deregulate(as Wall Street and Big Business gleefully continues to scam the public), ad nauseam.

Well, on second thought, it seems dragging down Hillary to their level of "popularity" isn't such a bad idea after all.

Hillary lives in the gutters. She didn't need to be dragged down into them. Somebody just needed to have the balls to point out she is gutter trash.

Sorry, but you guys picked the wrong horse. It is old, tired, and corrupt as fuck.

 

[ivwshane]

why should he? Clinton hosted her email on a private server located in her home. Powell did not. if you dont understand the difference then then go find it yourself.

I think it is you who doesn't understand. A server located outside a secure area is still a server located outside a secure area, regardless if it was run by an individual or a corporation.

 

[ivwshane]

I'll take a citation for every claim you just pulled out of your ass.

Ask Andrea Mitchell about that. The "he did it first" argument is ridiculous.

1. He was the first sec to ever use email.

2. Everybody knew he did it

3. It wasn't his own server which was prone to attack

4. Rules didn't exist

5. He didn't blatantly circumvent security, using unsecured servers and devices, knowing full well that they were against said rules.

6. His server wasn't being attacked thus he couldn't have failed to notify the state department of such attacks. She knew it was being attacked and failed to tell them. Furthermore, she was specifically notified that hackers were going after high profile politicians and yet she still persisted in using a home brew server in her basement.

7. She knew her blackberry was unsecured yet traveled abroad using it.

The list goes on and on. Face it, she flagrantly disregarded well know rules and standards for security and her only defense is some guy 10 years ago did something not nearly as bad 10 years ago.

Foe fucks sake. She is supposed to be in charge of our most secret info and she can't even be bothered to not use a blackberry because she feels entitled. And yet you guys defend her. Not even Andrea Mitchell is defending her. That should tell you something.

 

[LegendKiller]

I'll take a citation for every claim you just pulled out of your ass.

It wouldn't matter if I got it notarized by God. You'd still not believe it.

 

[kage69]

Rules, clearly, are for the unwashed masses. Elites like Clinton should be allowed to pick and choose according to what works best for them.

Yet again I find Hillary's imperious sense of entitlement completely nauseating.

 

[OutHouse]

but they violated the exact same laws and regulations.

fail. no the rules when Powell was in office were fluid and in their infancy. by the time Clinton got in office the rules were completely different and hardened.

 

[OutHouse]

LA Times story.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/natio...audit-clinton-emails-20160525-snap-story.html

 

[OutHouse]

i find it very odd that the Romanian hacker Marcel Lazar was extradited from Romania for hacking email. The feds put a lot of time and money into bringing this guy back to the US for a relatively minor crime and his case was raced through the courts and a unprecedented pace. This raises the question, what does he have that they want?

 

[ivwshane]

It wouldn't matter if I got it notarized by God. You'd still not believe it.

Poor legendkiller, always the bitch. I guess you post on these forums to be heard and not to discuss.

 

[LegendKiller]

Poor legendkiller, always the bitch. I guess you post on these forums to be heard and not to discuss.

Lol - if facts mattered to you, I'd post them. But they are readily available and you still need my help.