Starting up Christianity/Accountability Groups.

[amorse2183]

ok...after your clarification here, then i apologize for offending you with my remarks. that was never the intention, but its obvious i did. i guess i just inferred something that was not the case. i am 23 years old now, but religion has not played a significant role in my life since i was around 16. but i do wish you luck with it, and hopefully you can find people here that you can get this started with.

i went to catholic high school, and i then graduated from college where there was a group similar to what you were proposing, and they were definitely the type to ram religious beliefs down everyone's throat. i suppose since thats the only real group that i have come across like that, and i do apologize for the incorrect inference.

religion by no means is an entity spelled out in black and white. there is alot of grey areas too. as long as the grey areas are addressed and respected by all , then things can work well. and i apologize because i responded in a non respectful way.

in addition, i am part Lebanese, but my family was always catholic even when they were still there. lebanon was a french colony at a time so catholicism made its way there for a good amount of the people. and while i always do my best to respect the different beliefs and concepts of catholicism and islam or judaism, its fooling and hypocritical of me to not even entertain doing the same for other protestant christians/denominations.

so..sorry

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: kranky
You know, the guy asks nicely for a little respect and some of you can't even pass the thread by without some snide remarks. This hardly qualifies as having something "rammed down your throat". If you're not interested, just pass on by.

Grow up.

 

[glen]

Sexual Purity (this one is a biggie)

Jesus doesn't seem to think it is.

 

[xchangx]

"Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the LORD your God will be with you wherever you go." Joshua 1:9

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: kranky
You know, the guy asks nicely for a little respect and some of you can't even pass the thread by without some snide remarks. This hardly qualifies as having something "rammed down your throat". If you're not interested, just pass on by.

Grow up.

Yaknow, it's funny that you mentioned that, kranky. Reading down this thread, I was just thinking how it was, among other things, the low-browed anti-Christians here on AT that helped me to re-affirm my faith after a period of doubt. Let's just say that with their hatred, bigotry, and prejudice that they don't represent their cause well.

 

[AnyMal]

Somehow words "christian" and "accountability" do not seem to fit together, not if history is of any indication. The whole notion of "being born again" is ridiculous at best, any public school dropout knows that you are born only once.

I refuse to read the Bible until it's translated into normal English.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: AnyMal
I refuse to read the Bible until it's translated into normal English.

Been done long ago. It's called the American Standard version and it sells for cheap at any Christian bookstore. You now have no more excuses (although I'm sure you'll find more).

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: AnyMal
I refuse to read the Bible until it's translated into normal English.

Been done long ago. It's called the American Standard version and it sells for cheap at any Christian bookstore. You now have no more excuses (although I'm sure you'll find more).

You are wrong in assuming that, I will in fact make it a point to read the Bible (in American English as you pointed out). I do regard all religions as folklore, so I am sure it will make for an interesting read.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: AnyMal
I refuse to read the Bible until it's translated into normal English.

Been done long ago. It's called the American Standard version and it sells for cheap at any Christian bookstore. You now have no more excuses (although I'm sure you'll find more).

You are wrong in assuming that, I will in fact make it a point to read the Bible (in American English as you pointed out). I do regard all religions as folklore, so I am sure it will make for an interesting read.

You are wrong in assuming that I would actually accept the opinion from someone on something that they had never actually studied or read about. In other words, if you haven't read it, you haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about, nor can you even pretend to make an informed opinion.

edit: missed the comma in your post -- misinterpreted your meaning. Happy reading! But can I suggest an open mind?

 

[cpals]

I'll give it a try... see what happens.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: AnyMal
I refuse to read the Bible until it's translated into normal English.

Been done long ago. It's called the American Standard version and it sells for cheap at any Christian bookstore. You now have no more excuses (although I'm sure you'll find more).

You are wrong in assuming that, I will in fact make it a point to read the Bible (in American English as you pointed out). I do regard all religions as folklore, so I am sure it will make for an interesting read.

You are wrong in assuming that I would actually accept the opinion from someone on something that they had never actually studied or read about. In other words, if you haven't read it, you haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about, nor can you even pretend to make an informed opinion.

edit: missed the comma in your post -- misinterpreted your meaning. Happy reading! But can I suggest an open mind?

What, if anything, in my post suggested that I am closeminded? Never did I bash or ridicule you or the original poster. Just because I don't subscribe to the same belief system as you, does not make me a closeminded person.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: AnyMal
What, if anything, in my post suggested that I am closeminded? Never did I bash or ridicule you or the original poster. Just because I don't subscribe to the same belief system as you, does not make me a closeminded person.

My apologies if I offended you. You are entitled to your belief system, and I would never think of changing it. However, I dislike the most important historical and philosphical work in human history being described as "folklore." Believe what you want about God or religion, that is what the Bible is. It has also been archeologically proven to be extremely historically accurate. But you will find that out soon enough when you read it. Most people who haven't read it think that it's all God and religion. It's not.

 

[Metalloid]

Originally posted by: amorse2183
ok...after your clarification here, then i apologize for offending you with my remarks. that was never the intention, but its obvious i did. i guess i just inferred something that was not the case. i am 23 years old now, but religion has not played a significant role in my life since i was around 16. but i do wish you luck with it, and hopefully you can find people here that you can get this started with.

i went to catholic high school, and i then graduated from college where there was a group similar to what you were proposing, and they were definitely the type to ram religious beliefs down everyone's throat. i suppose since thats the only real group that i have come across like that, and i do apologize for the incorrect inference.

religion by no means is an entity spelled out in black and white. there is alot of grey areas too. as long as the grey areas are addressed and respected by all , then things can work well. and i apologize because i responded in a non respectful way.

in addition, i am part Lebanese, but my family was always catholic even when they were still there. lebanon was a french colony at a time so catholicism made its way there for a good amount of the people. and while i always do my best to respect the different beliefs and concepts of catholicism and islam or judaism, its fooling and hypocritical of me to not even entertain doing the same for other protestant christians/denominations.

so..sorry

It is quite alright, just a simple missunderstanding.

 

[silent tone]

I have to say I read this thread only out of morbid curiosity, and I'm not surprised.

I suggest if you aren't Christian don't even post in here. There's no need for debate, criticism, or trolling. Make your own thread or bump one of the hundreds of other threads, if that grabs your goat.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: KingNothing
Accountability over the internet? Yeah, right. I'm a Christian but I don't think this will work. Prepare to be flamed.

You are really missing out on Who you are being accountable to. The Internet is just as good as anywhere else.

 

[dquan97]

I'm in! Looking forward to this...

 

[TekChik]

i think this is a really good idea. i want to be a part of it, for sure.

 

[fonzinator]

I'm game for prayer and general encouragement in our walks, so sign me up!

Here are a few thoughts...
1) I'd caution about getting too personal on here with accountibility. I think that should be done in a situation that is you and that person/persons in person. Being on a net forum takes a lot of the human interaction that is very key in accountibility...especially for deep issues.
2) I'm not sure what your plan is for setting this up but let me make another suggestion for this...keep the guys and girls separate if you are going to include deep issues like sexual purity. In fact, I'd say don't pair up and guys with girls.
3) Have a private topic thread avaliable for general prayer requests, words of encouragement, theology discussion.

 

[Metalloid]

Thank you for the advice fonzinator. I especially agree with number 2. It would be very very difficult for guys and girls to open up to each other when it comes to sexual purity.

Also, anyone who is on the list needs to PM me with as much info about yourself as you can give me. Especially pertaining to how spiritually mature you are. It will work much better to get a newer Christian paired up with an "experienced" Christian.

 

[dquan97]

Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Thank you for the advice fonzinator. I especially agree with number 2. It would be very very difficult for guys and girls to open up to each other when it comes to sexual purity.

Also, anyone who is on the list needs to PM me with as much info about yourself as you can give me. Especially pertaining to how spiritually mature you are. It will work much better to get a newer Christian paired up with an "experienced" Christian.

Good idea about matching guys with guys...I was thinking about posting that too!

 

[BatmanNate]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
While I would say that posting this indeed falls under OT, I hope you understand mention religion, particularly Christianity will get you about as much support as Reparations at a KKK rally

That is the irony of the situation, IMHO. Some people that disagree just can't resist flaming, which makes Christians martyrs of a sort, fulfilling their claims in that regard. If you really disagree with their cause, you'd be much more effective by just keeping it to yourself and respecting the thread originator's request not to flame.

 

[bigben]

Sounds like a good idea to me. Count me in

 

[ILikeStuff]

Very awesome. My fiance and I already have an accountability couple, and bible study/prayer group we participate in, but this is a great idea none the less. Though I don't have time for an online partner right now, but I'd love access to the private topic for prayer requests and such. Can never pray or be prayed for too much

 

[911paramedic]

:beer: ...just passing through...

 

[Metalloid]

Originally posted by: dquan97

Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Thank you for the advice fonzinator. I especially agree with number 2. It would be very very difficult for guys and girls to open up to each other when it comes to sexual purity.

Also, anyone who is on the list needs to PM me with as much info about yourself as you can give me. Especially pertaining to how spiritually mature you are. It will work much better to get a newer Christian paired up with an "experienced" Christian.

Good idea about matching guys with guys...I was thinking about posting that too!

Thank fonzinator.