Star Wars: The Force Awakens reviews *SPOILERS*

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Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
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Dude kissed his sister and having kids are off limits? Actually, what movie said no kids?

I'm hoping this is a joke.

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Fingolfin269

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I didn't get a love interest vibe from them. I saw it more as a friendship, perhaps a familial thing. Rey even calls Finn "my friend" at the end and kisses him on the forehead like a brother. Of course it could easily turn into a romance in the next movie and I'm OK with that, but I didn't see any real signs of that in this movie. I've only seen it once, though. Did I miss something?

No you didn't miss anything. That's exactly how it was portrayed.
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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All these questions we have of this movie show that it was not a strong movie. We have many movies that are made with sequels in mind that don't have this problem. So much of it didn't make sense. Plus with the fact that it's the same plot we've had already with almost no changes. This movie is definitely a disappointment.
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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Although I clearly asked for 2 tickets to star wars, the lady at the theater rang it up as "Alvin and the Chipmunks" then she told me to go to theater 6 which was the SW theater. I wonder how many other people the theater did this for.

Were you trying to get special pricing? Big movies have a blackout period for that and this might be a way around it when the show doesn't sell out. SW EP VII TFA might even discourage Matinee pricing.
 

Fingolfin269

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All these questions we have of this movie show that it was not a strong movie. We have many movies that are made with sequels in mind that don't have this problem. So much of it didn't make sense. Plus with the fact that it's the same plot we've had already with almost no changes. This movie is definitely a disappointment.

I think this is always going to be a problem for any movie that is the first of an intended trilogy. Many movies with sequels or several sequels were not necessarily expected to be more than a single film and therefore had to summarize the entire plot within the single film. The original Star Wars is a perfect example of this. Matrix is another.
 

futurefields

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In my opinion Disney Star Wars is not canon. George Lucas is not even involved with these. This is just more Expanded Universe stuff and not even as well thought out as Timothy Zahn and Drew Karpyshyn's contributions. I don't care what Disney says about it, they are a joke of a company.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
Sep 2, 2006
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Han! NO!

:'(

yeah i was shocked by that

and then even more shocked that i managed to not hear any spoilers for almost 2 weeks after the movie came out!

all things considered, i enjoyed it. good pacing, good action. some things were iffy (why is ren with all his supposed dark lord training getting saber-pwned by a force noob like rey)?

but i am willing to forgive such things, probably because my expectations were so low after I to III.
 

Bubbleawsome

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Honestly I see it's weaknesses, but I think it's all a setup. We've got Luke back, Rey has the Force, Kylo Ren has new Force powers, and the entire plot/story is set up for episodes 8 and 9. I think this was all to rebuild a bit of universe after killing the EU and trying to mostly ignore the prequels.

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gorcorps

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You know, i gotta say, as much as people crap on the prequels, they did have better lightsaber battles than 4-6 (and TFA as well).
They had more CHOREOGRAPHED battles, but they didn't feel like a fight. The darth maul battle especially looked more like a dance than a fight.

TFA battles are all between very inexperienced people... Ren was the only one with experience with a saber. Both Rey and Fin never used one before, so a fancy battle would have been incredibly unrealistic. It looked exactly how it should have given how inexperienced all of the characters were.

In fact some of my favorite parts in TFA is when Ren gets pissed and beats the shit out of something with his lightsaber. It shows he gets easily angered, and is nowhere near mature/stoic enough compared to Vader. It shows he's still young without revealing his face (which we seem to all agree are a weak spot, when Ren has his mask off). I think some more scenes like this shows how immature Ren is through actions vs showing his stupid emo face.
 

A Casual Fitz

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Were you trying to get special pricing? Big movies have a blackout period for that and this might be a way around it when the show doesn't sell out. SW EP VII TFA might even discourage Matinee pricing.

It sounds more like the theater trying to profit a little more on the ticket sales.
 

futurefields

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Honestly I see it's weaknesses, but I think it's all a setup. We've got Luke back, Rey has the Force, Kylo Ren has new Force powers, and the entire plot/story is set up for episodes 8 and 9. I think this was all to rebuild a bit of universe after killing the EU and trying to mostly ignore the prequels.

But where was the character development then? This movie is an inch deep. Completely style and execution over substance, polar opposite of the prequels, which had much more intricate plots and focused almost entirely on character development.
 

jpiniero

Lifer
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Were you trying to get special pricing? Big movies have a blackout period for that and this might be a way around it when the show doesn't sell out. SW EP VII TFA might even discourage Matinee pricing.

The showing that I went to (11:30 AM) was matinee pricing.
 

Nashemon

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You know, i gotta say, as much as people crap on the prequels, they did have better lightsaber battles than 4-6 (and TFA as well).
Actually that was one of the big gripes from a lot of people. Lightsaber battles in the OT were filled with dialog that improved the plot. In the prequels every single one of them was little more than a choreographed light show. The dance off between Obi-wan and Anakin at the end of Episode 3 was a train wreck. They literally swung their sabers around like the "star wars kid" in one of the scenes. They traded nearly all emotion for action sequences. Is that what you mean by better?
 

local

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All these questions we have of this movie show that it was not a strong movie. We have many movies that are made with sequels in mind that don't have this problem. So much of it didn't make sense. Plus with the fact that it's the same plot we've had already with almost no changes. This movie is definitely a disappointment.

Imagine how confusing LotR Fellowship of the Ring would have been without the books to fill in the gaps before the next two movies. Thats pretty much what we have here.
 

ctark

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Actually that was one of the big gripes from a lot of people. Lightsaber battles in the OT were filled with dialog that improved the plot. In the prequels every single one of them was little more than a choreographed light show. The dance off between Obi-wan and Anakin at the end of Episode 3 was a train wreck. They literally swung their sabers around like the "star wars kid" in one of the scenes. They traded nearly all emotion for action sequences. Is that what you mean by better?

You are being over critical. If you saw behind the scenes the dedication and time it took to do that duel you wouldn't be so critical. It's clearly explained why the light saber techniques vary from the techniques in the original trilogy. Lucas explained it and people just want to ignore it because they think Lucas is some kind of idiot after the OTA era. The Jedi as a whole are in their prime. They had a thousand generations of lightsaber combat techniques to build upon, whereas Luke essentially had to learn on his own and use more brute force than anything to win his battle against Vader. Movies are a way to escape reality, they aren't suppose to always be realistic. What Lucas did with both trilogies were art, which is subjective. There are things I don't like that he did, but they were his movies and his vision and I'm thankful that he shared it with us. People will never appreciate Lucas for his story telling and passion he had for this franchise. He could have moved on after the first movie, or after the first trilogy. He has now ensured that we will get many more stories that will probably last the rest of our lives. I've seen so much bitterness about this movie and his other movies. Move on with your life.
 

Kaido

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Feb 14, 2004
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TFA battles are all between very inexperienced people... Ren was the only one with experience with a saber. Both Rey and Fin never used one before, so a fancy battle would have been incredibly unrealistic. It looked exactly how it should have given how inexperienced all of the characters were.

The amateur lightsaber battles were actually some of my favorite parts in the new movie...Finn vs. the Stormtrooper and Finn & Rey vs. Darth Emo. Felt way more realistic & not choreo-danced at all. It wasn't just endlessly clean Matrix-y fights all the time.