Edit: Well I finally got to play a few games online. Not quite sure why I was having problems before, but some people on gamespy were reporting the same thing, ie timing out and not being able to connect to multiplayer games.
The game has been pretty fun so far. I'm not quite sure how good it will be once the "newness" wears off, but I am definately enjoying it right now.
The game has been pretty fun so far. I'm not quite sure how good it will be once the "newness" wears off, but I am definately enjoying it right now.
Wow what a dud, I guess we got what we expected from Lucas Arts. I'm glad I resisted and only picked up the Star Wars Trilogy DVD pack.
I only paid $38 for it from Best Buy. $37 too much....
I bet I can seal it up good enough to take it back... I am going to try...
I bet I can seal it up good enough to take it back... I am going to try...
Sigh.. Im pretty tight with the manager at my EB where I got it.. Im gonna ask him for a favor to return this POS =/
EB used to take back open games. They were good about it. I've returned a couple POS games.. and thats basically what I told them when I returned it. Hopefully they havn't changed their policies.
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Damn, I cannot beleive how many people dislike this game. I still havent picked it up, and now I am deffinitly not going to pick it up.
Although, I do remember when BFV alot of peeps didnt like it, and now look at it. Hrm, something tells me that this is different though.
Although, I do remember when BFV alot of peeps didnt like it, and now look at it. Hrm, something tells me that this is different though.
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Then the consensus is :thumbsdown:? Think it would be worth $20 if I can get it in FS/FT for that a little down the road?
Originally posted by: warcrow
Damn, I cannot beleive how many people dislike this game. I still havent picked it up, and now I am deffinitly not going to pick it up.
Although, I do remember when BFV alot of peeps didnt like it, and now look at it. Hrm, something tells me that this is different though.
BFV kicks the crap outa this game...
Oy, I can only imagine how fun a star wars version of UT/Onslaught would be but in typical Lucas Farts style, they turned a potential diamond into a pile of crap. Don't buy.
If people say it's not totally great - I'm a little reluctant to buy it, I just bought The Sims 2 so I'm happy.
BAD game!!! I knew it was a rip-off of BF1942, but they could have at least done as good of a job.
Even if it were FREE (which it was for me) I would NEVER pay for it because there are to many good games out there that are worth the money.
This MAY have been a decent game 4 years ago.
Even if it were FREE (which it was for me) I would NEVER pay for it because there are to many good games out there that are worth the money.
This MAY have been a decent game 4 years ago.
There are bugs in the game, server list sucks, fps locked im MP, to name a few. But when you get on a good server it is really a blast to play. I have been playing the Battlefield games ever since they came out and battlefront is a great change of pace. I give the game two thumbs up and it can only get better through patches to address the issues I have.
I don't understand all the naysayers. I'm having a lot of fun with it. The graphics are amazing as far as I'm concerned. With a couple exceptions the maps are interesting and should prove to make for some fun online battles. The vehicles are great fun to drive. It does feel a little slower than BF1942, but not much. I'd give it an 8 out of 10 for now, if the fun factor lasts more than a week or two I'd bump it to a 9.
It rocks, You can kill ewoks.But the maps get a little boring after a while... But same with bfv its just jungle or sand
It rocks, You can kill ewoks.But the maps get a little boring after a while... But same with bfv its just jungle or sand.There are alot of kids that play this thogh. So make sure you have some good friends onlines
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Ok, I went and bought it. All the subjective drivel really didn't help so I'll try a review based on several hours of gameplay.
The game is not Battlefield. I went into this thinking it would be BF series game, or maybe even an update to it. Quite simply it's not Battlefield, but that's not to say it doesn't have value.
Gameplay
The gameplay is fast, almost to the level of Quake or UT fast depending on the map. That's not to say that you're forced into that role if you're a more intelligent player. A sniper or pilot can be of value but they need to stay on high ground and remain behind the grunts. If you have patience and inspect your environment you'll be able to find all sorts of advantages. Interestingly enough, for a fast style shooter, your character has weight and has movement restrictions akin to a Tom Clancy game. If you jump your weapon can't be used. If you go prone you have to wait several seconds before you can use your rifle. If you use a jet pack it refuels slowly and you can't use your weapon.
The maps are standard fair Battlefield Vietnam. You have capture points that must be held for a certain amount of time before they stop spawning troops. Most capture areas have several robots than either heal you or give you ammo, you can also get ammo from fallen soldiers. The robots can be destroyed though, so be careful not to lose them. The maps are smaller but that's what boosts the faster style of gameplay. Also remember that just because the maps are small doesn't mean they lack detail, hiding spots or vehicles.
Vehicles are slow, clumsy and well armored. They won't rule a map as long as someone on the opposite team has a rocket launcher. They may be able to lay down the hurt but they fire very slowly, can't capture points, and draw the ire of the entire enemy force.
Video
The video matches Battlefield Vietnam with regard to polygon count but that's about it. Star Wars Battlefront adds a nice haze to many of the maps, similar to the paradise render mode in Farcry. This isn't typical yet in games but it works, it creates atmosphere, and it seems to render fast as hell. I can play on full details with my P4 2.5/9800 Pro which is something that can't be said for Battlefield Vietnam, at least if I want to be competitive online.
Audio
It's Star Wars. Vehicle sounds work, unlike in BattleField Vietnam.
Interface
This is the weakest point in Battlefront. The online game selector is crude at best, the menu system is poorly laid out. The HUD is tiny and tilted. I understand the "tilt" is a design decision... I just don't think it's going to be popular.
Conclusion
I like it. I haven't learned the complexity of all the characters yet but it's there. The real deciding factor here is going to be developer support. If the interface gets an update and the classes get tweaked, like BF patches, then it'll be a PC hit. If not, which I suspect, it'll still stand as a fair game. I'd call it a nice mix between the BF series and the UT series. Online gameplay was wild at best on the first day but that's to be expected from a bunch of new players. I racked up quite a number of kills by just staying in the shadows and killing off confused players. Once players get the hang of the maps this will probably happen less and less.
The game is not Battlefield. I went into this thinking it would be BF series game, or maybe even an update to it. Quite simply it's not Battlefield, but that's not to say it doesn't have value.
Gameplay
The gameplay is fast, almost to the level of Quake or UT fast depending on the map. That's not to say that you're forced into that role if you're a more intelligent player. A sniper or pilot can be of value but they need to stay on high ground and remain behind the grunts. If you have patience and inspect your environment you'll be able to find all sorts of advantages. Interestingly enough, for a fast style shooter, your character has weight and has movement restrictions akin to a Tom Clancy game. If you jump your weapon can't be used. If you go prone you have to wait several seconds before you can use your rifle. If you use a jet pack it refuels slowly and you can't use your weapon.
The maps are standard fair Battlefield Vietnam. You have capture points that must be held for a certain amount of time before they stop spawning troops. Most capture areas have several robots than either heal you or give you ammo, you can also get ammo from fallen soldiers. The robots can be destroyed though, so be careful not to lose them. The maps are smaller but that's what boosts the faster style of gameplay. Also remember that just because the maps are small doesn't mean they lack detail, hiding spots or vehicles.
Vehicles are slow, clumsy and well armored. They won't rule a map as long as someone on the opposite team has a rocket launcher. They may be able to lay down the hurt but they fire very slowly, can't capture points, and draw the ire of the entire enemy force.
Video
The video matches Battlefield Vietnam with regard to polygon count but that's about it. Star Wars Battlefront adds a nice haze to many of the maps, similar to the paradise render mode in Farcry. This isn't typical yet in games but it works, it creates atmosphere, and it seems to render fast as hell. I can play on full details with my P4 2.5/9800 Pro which is something that can't be said for Battlefield Vietnam, at least if I want to be competitive online.
Audio
It's Star Wars. Vehicle sounds work, unlike in BattleField Vietnam.
Interface
This is the weakest point in Battlefront. The online game selector is crude at best, the menu system is poorly laid out. The HUD is tiny and tilted. I understand the "tilt" is a design decision... I just don't think it's going to be popular.
Conclusion
I like it. I haven't learned the complexity of all the characters yet but it's there. The real deciding factor here is going to be developer support. If the interface gets an update and the classes get tweaked, like BF patches, then it'll be a PC hit. If not, which I suspect, it'll still stand as a fair game. I'd call it a nice mix between the BF series and the UT series. Online gameplay was wild at best on the first day but that's to be expected from a bunch of new players. I racked up quite a number of kills by just staying in the shadows and killing off confused players. Once players get the hang of the maps this will probably happen less and less.
Very good mini-review Thera.
After finishing up the single player last night, and tried online and indeed the interface is a nightmare. You're lucky if you can choose a server. Using Gamespy works, but between maps I seem to get dropped and never connect back to the server. A patch or two and this game will be fun.
After finishing up the single player last night, and tried online and indeed the interface is a nightmare. You're lucky if you can choose a server. Using Gamespy works, but between maps I seem to get dropped and never connect back to the server. A patch or two and this game will be fun.
First, I recommend not buying this game. It feels very rushed, clearly to come out in conjunction with the DVD. This game might get better only if they get several very comprehensive patches applied to it.
Following opinions formed from 3 hours of multiplayer last night. Fwiw, I've played BF since the first demo came out in summer of 2002, but never played Vietnam. Have played every iteration of UT since Nov. 1999.
The Dark Side:
The gameplay is choppy. Way too choppy. I'm running an AMD 64 3400 with an Nvidia 6800 video card. 1 gig ram. And it gets CHOPPY. Characters are hurtling around, pings are bad on some of them, so you have the choppy "skip-jumps", and then you find yourself run over by a tank.
The "hero units" are just weird. Darth Vader was literally spawn camping. Anything you fire at him gets awkwardly deflected. If he (or Luke if you're Imperial) is close to you, you're dead, nothing you can do. I guess they put them in there to make it more "realistic", like you're running around, and oh shite, it's Vader! But it doesn't work at any level. Just frustrating.
They also have placed random AI units around, just to add more units to the mix. These units are all incredibly dumb, and can be killed with ease.
The WORST thing about it is the interface, particularly the multiplayer interface! You can't even sort by map! The scroll bars literally don't work. You have to click past them to get them to haltingly move. You can't stop the server list from populating, so if you think you are joining a 31 player game with a great ping, it will jump at the last millisecond, and you're in a server in France with 1 guy.
Unimpressive, most unimpressive:
The audio. It's not bad, it's not great. You hear the same laser ricochet sound about every 30 seconds. Footsteps are unusally loud.
The HUD seems subpar. Granted, I didn't go into options yet and try to tweak it. (if that's possible). I never saw my health, or armor. The map view is okay, it's more detailed than BF, but with a map you just need the basics, you aren't going to be analyzing how many stairs there are while shooting people and being shot at.
The battles are large in scope, and feel frantic, in a pretty good way. The tanks, AT-AT's, and other large units can really destroy a team unless you coordinate (which didn't happen last night, granted, first day of playing). Guys who stayed in tanks got 5 times the amount of kills as everyone else. Unlike BF, the tank doesn't start smoking to let you know you're doing damage. After 7 rocket blasts to a tank, I had about given up, when someone opened fire on it with a pistol and it exploded.
The Light Side:
Graphics look good, overall. Running next to an AT-AT on Hoth and looking up is pretty rad. They've added player shadows, which looks cool, but doesn't help anything. The models, water, explosions look nice. You definitely instantly recognize everything from the movies.
Again, these are first impressions. But I stand by what I said earlier, don't buy it for now. I'll definitely play it more to try to get a better feel for it, and I can only hope they release wonderful patches that make this game into something worthwhile.
Following opinions formed from 3 hours of multiplayer last night. Fwiw, I've played BF since the first demo came out in summer of 2002, but never played Vietnam. Have played every iteration of UT since Nov. 1999.
The Dark Side:
The gameplay is choppy. Way too choppy. I'm running an AMD 64 3400 with an Nvidia 6800 video card. 1 gig ram. And it gets CHOPPY. Characters are hurtling around, pings are bad on some of them, so you have the choppy "skip-jumps", and then you find yourself run over by a tank.
The "hero units" are just weird. Darth Vader was literally spawn camping. Anything you fire at him gets awkwardly deflected. If he (or Luke if you're Imperial) is close to you, you're dead, nothing you can do. I guess they put them in there to make it more "realistic", like you're running around, and oh shite, it's Vader! But it doesn't work at any level. Just frustrating.
They also have placed random AI units around, just to add more units to the mix. These units are all incredibly dumb, and can be killed with ease.
The WORST thing about it is the interface, particularly the multiplayer interface! You can't even sort by map! The scroll bars literally don't work. You have to click past them to get them to haltingly move. You can't stop the server list from populating, so if you think you are joining a 31 player game with a great ping, it will jump at the last millisecond, and you're in a server in France with 1 guy.
Unimpressive, most unimpressive:
The audio. It's not bad, it's not great. You hear the same laser ricochet sound about every 30 seconds. Footsteps are unusally loud.
The HUD seems subpar. Granted, I didn't go into options yet and try to tweak it. (if that's possible). I never saw my health, or armor. The map view is okay, it's more detailed than BF, but with a map you just need the basics, you aren't going to be analyzing how many stairs there are while shooting people and being shot at.
The battles are large in scope, and feel frantic, in a pretty good way. The tanks, AT-AT's, and other large units can really destroy a team unless you coordinate (which didn't happen last night, granted, first day of playing). Guys who stayed in tanks got 5 times the amount of kills as everyone else. Unlike BF, the tank doesn't start smoking to let you know you're doing damage. After 7 rocket blasts to a tank, I had about given up, when someone opened fire on it with a pistol and it exploded.
The Light Side:
Graphics look good, overall. Running next to an AT-AT on Hoth and looking up is pretty rad. They've added player shadows, which looks cool, but doesn't help anything. The models, water, explosions look nice. You definitely instantly recognize everything from the movies.
Again, these are first impressions. But I stand by what I said earlier, don't buy it for now. I'll definitely play it more to try to get a better feel for it, and I can only hope they release wonderful patches that make this game into something worthwhile.
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Great first post :beer: Welcome to the boards and thank you for the detailed post. It really clears up a great deal for me
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