Star Citizen: Chris Robert`s new space sim (the Wing Commander guy)

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm going to have to login tonight and get in some play time.

The fiance and I bought a house, and we're moving Saturday. Well, most of the stuff Saturday. And since we're also doing some remodeling, it might be a little bit before I get everything set back up and going.

From Home & Garden it looks like a very cute house. Congratulations kid.

 

[Fallen Kell]

I think when the Starfarer becomes flyable in the PU, it's going to give us a good look at how these giant ships are going to be able to defend themselves - and I have a feeling, initially, it's going to be a pretty big issue.

I think these ships are going to have to have shields and armor that are almost unpenetrable by <S4 weapons. Even something as big as a Vanguard will be able to stay in an orbit out of the turret's line-of-site and maintain fire as long as it wants.

We already see this to some extent with the Connie and Retaliator - a good pilot in a SuperHornet can just run circles around these and maintain fire in relative safety - - with the Starfarer it's going to be that X10.

I think they're going to have to start considering multiple ways for large ships to defend themselves besides just a few turrets. I could see something like a disruptor / distortion generator that blasts in a complete radius around the ship. That would be very effective at keeping small attack vessels at a distance, where they would be much more susceptible to turret fire.

I entirely agree. But I think part of the feeling is that these larger ships are meant to only be used in convoys with fighter escort and/or only in locations that are safe. I think too many people feel the game is going to be Eve with the players having free reign to attack and blow up everyone without real consequences, when I think the reality is that this type of activity will only really be available in the fringe areas of the game while the core homeworld areas are safe from this kind of activity.

But if they do aim for the game to be more Eve-like, these ships will need significant armor and shields and probably really need automated point defence turrets which can do significant damage to smaller ships without the need for the main turrets to be used.

 

[Stringjam]

I entirely agree. But I think part of the feeling is that these larger ships are meant to only be used in convoys with fighter escort and/or only in locations that are safe. I think too many people feel the game is going to be Eve with the players having free reign to attack and blow up everyone without real consequences, when I think the reality is that this type of activity will only really be available in the fringe areas of the game while the core homeworld areas are safe from this kind of activity.

But if they do aim for the game to be more Eve-like, these ships will need significant armor and shields and probably really need automated point defence turrets which can do significant damage to smaller ships without the need for the main turrets to be used.

Yeah, the mechanics are going to have to be looked at very closely. Even having escorts will not be feasible in a lot of cases.

Looking at exploration vessels like the Carrack and Endeavor - - having fighter escorts that can handle that kind of range (and apart from hired NPCs, it might be difficult to find players willing to just fly along out in the middle of nowhere with an explorer).

I think that's also why we have such a quick QD mechanic in place. If you get attacked, apart from an alpha strike, you can just kick in the QD and get out of there.

I actually like that mechanic. A lot of people don't want to play SC for combat, and the quick QD spool-up means they only have to engage when they want to.

This means if pirates want to take down cargo ships / miners, etc....they're going to have to use tools to take down the shields quickly so the ship can't QD. EMP blasts, coordinated attacks to take down a shield section, and so on.

I think it should be difficult for little single-seat fighters to take down large commercial ships unless they're in a pretty decent group, and dang near impossible if they're by themselves.

If realism is a goal, something like the Starfarer has enough room for a lot of very big shield generators and power plants, and would certainly have them. Small fighters don't have room for big guns / shields / power. That's the balance.

I think a squad of Hornets should be able to take down a Starfarer, but you should be able to pilot this thing and laugh at any little single-seater pinging away at it with S2 weapons all by itself.

I've taken out Connies and Talis with my M50 and its pair of pea shooters, and it wasn't difficult (this was before the shield buffs though).

 

[TechBoyJK]

From Home & Garden it looks like a very cute house. Congratulations kid.

Thank you kind sir! I just got back to work from going to the house to meet a plumber to get bids on moving some stuff. Can't wait for it to get finished.

 

[Stringjam]

From Home & Garden it looks like a very cute house. Congratulations kid.

Link?

 

[TechBoyJK]

Link?

http://imgur.com/a/YIm1s

 

[Stringjam]

http://imgur.com/a/YIm1s

Sweet. You must be pretty stoked! Love the huge window in the main room and the open kitchen / dining.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Sweet. You must be pretty stoked! Love the huge window in the main room and the open kitchen / dining.

Thanks!

Yea, it's pretty nice. All new stuff. The seller bought it to renovate it and basically renovated it out of the market. He spent almost $100k on it and 'supposedly' barely broke even on the sale. It's a $250k home he had to sell for $217k because even at that it's $20k more than any other house in the neighborhood. It's a nice hood though so no complaints. He did everything except the basement because it was the lowest priority and by time he got to it, he had already over spent. Fortunately, this is giving me the freedom to lay things out the way I want down there. It's going to cost more, but I have a clean slate.

But yea, almost everything is new. The roof, deck, windows, doors, floors, walls, electrical, furnace, etc. I mean.. he didn't replace the main power panel or water heater because they were in good shape, but anything that needed to be fixed he fixed. Even the slab in the garage is less than 3 years old. He said it looks used because he did a lot of the remodeling in the garage but you can tell if scrubbed down it'd look like new.

 

[Stringjam]

Thanks!

Fortunately, this is giving me the freedom to lay things out the way I want down there. It's going to cost more, but I have a clean slate.

Man.
Cave.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Thanks!

Yea, it's pretty nice. All new stuff. The seller bought it to renovate it and basically renovated it out of the market. He spent almost $100k on it and 'supposedly' barely broke even on the sale. It's a $250k home he had to sell for $217k because even at that it's $20k more than any other house in the neighborhood. It's a nice hood though so no complaints. He did everything except the basement because it was the lowest priority and by time he got to it, he had already over spent. Fortunately, this is giving me the freedom to lay things out the way I want down there. It's going to cost more, but I have a clean slate.

But yea, almost everything is new. The roof, deck, windows, doors, floors, walls, electrical, furnace, etc. I mean.. he didn't replace the main power panel or water heater because they were in good shape, but anything that needed to be fixed he fixed. Even the slab in the garage is less than 3 years old. He said it looks used because he did a lot of the remodeling in the garage but you can tell if scrubbed down it'd look like new.

New roof = look into solar. 1st it will make your roof last 20 additional years 2nd if you have a good facing it will pay for itself. I live in MA with the tax credits & SREC (solar energy credits the power companies need to buy) our panels should pay for themselves in 5 years.

Back to SC make sure you post pictures of your set up

 

[rivethead]

I entirely agree. But I think part of the feeling is that these larger ships are meant to only be used in convoys with fighter escort and/or only in locations that are safe. I think too many people feel the game is going to be Eve with the players having free reign to attack and blow up everyone without real consequences, when I think the reality is that this type of activity will only really be available in the fringe areas of the game while the core homeworld areas are safe from this kind of activity.

But if they do aim for the game to be more Eve-like, these ships will need significant armor and shields and probably really need automated point defence turrets which can do significant damage to smaller ships without the need for the main turrets to be used.

If this game even closely resembles Eve-like, I'll be massively disappointed. And I know I won't be alone.

 

[rivethead]

Tech - looks like you have a lot of landscaping to do. Obviously not a high priority but that front yard needs some done bad....and you'll look at that every time you come home.

I'll be making at least three trips to Lowes and/or Home Depot for plants today. Let me know if you need me to pick anything up.

Congrats on the house! Sounds like you got a good deal and have a solid plan in place already.

 

[rivethead]

Man.
Cave.

Looking at the pictures.....Man Cave(s)!

Potential for a Star Citizen room, a movie room with widescreen and Xbox 1, a work-from-home office room, a studio room for guitars and amps.

Oh and a scrapbooking closet.....for the wife/girlfriend.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Not sure if this is new, but this is an awesome gif of a ship explosion from both outside and inside.

https://giant.gfycat.com/UnitedOptimisticDinosaur.webm

 

[TechBoyJK]

Man.
Cave.

The electrician, who does many of our installs at the datacenter I work at, was willing to knock out my project this weekend. Took him 19 hours in total. He also ran circuits/outlets up to my garage including a 240v 30amp outlet. I had 7 dedicated outlets installed in the music/jam area (which will be closed off eventually). Each outlet has its own GFCI plug and a direct line back to the new subpanel with its own breaker. All in all I have 20 new outlets in total. 11 in basement and 9 in the garage.

The subpanel is a 100A panel, but because I don't expect to draw anything near that, we used a 60A breaker. It was about 1/5th the cost and didn't need to be special ordered. The garage circuits were wired to the main panel. So only basement stuff is on subpanel.

Mostly done

Anywho.. probably going to be a week or so until I can sign back into the game. I still have to hang the drywall, patch it, and paint before I'm hauling my workcenter out to the new house. Right now its still in my old basement.

 

[Stringjam]

Fallen Kell - have you had a chance to try out the Crosswinds in-game yet?

 

[Stringjam]

Fallen Kell - have you had a chance to try out the Crosswinds in-game yet?

Answer me! Damn you!

I need an excuse to spend more money....lol

 

[rivethead]

Answer me! Damn you!

I need an excuse to spend more money....lol

That single seat miner (I think I've heard it's being called the MISC Prospector) should be on concept sale any minute now......

 

[Stringjam]

That single seat miner (I think I've heard it's being called the MISC Prospector) should be on concept sale any minute now......

I'll definitely be all over that!

 

[Fallen Kell]

Answer me! Damn you!

I need an excuse to spend more money....lol

hahahaa.... Sadly, no. Been working on a major guitar/bass project that has been taking up all my free time. I am getting a custom pedal board and moving to MIDI controlled effects pedals and switchers and setting up my pedal switches, which requires programming in the MIDI commands to control the effects pedals and the presets. With having 2 pedals that have 100 presets which can be saved/mapped, a switch that can save 800 configurations, and all the various permutations of ordering effects pedals together in the chain... I have been pretty busy as a result. And on top of that, I need to cut and build all the interconnects once the custom board shows up (so cut the wire, remove the outer casing, twist/solder the braided shield together, remove the conductive grounding layer, remove the non-conductive die-electric, tin the inner core wire, solder the shield and core to the TS connectors, heat shrink the shield wire so it can't even easily come loose and short to the core wire, put a nylon braid on the main surface of the wire and heatshrink it into place and clamp the TS connectors down on some strain relief, and heatshrink the TS connectors... and do that for approx 26 cables....). So far I have simply been working on setting various presets that I know I like and will use on the 2 main pedals (Eventide H9 Max+H9 Core) and learning how to use/program the Boss ES-8 to send MIDI signals to the Eventides and the M4L 4xLoop.

 

[Stringjam]

hahahaa.... Sadly, no. Been working on a major guitar/bass project that has been taking up all my free time.

I need to get a pedal board put together. Had it on the to-do list last year and just never got around to it.

The Eventide sounds like a nice pedal setup. I used to have an H3000 D/SE Ultra Harmonizer a LONG time ago. That thing sounded amazing.

I just have a bunch of pedals now.

 

[Fallen Kell]

I need to get a pedal board put together. Had it on the to-do list last year and just never got around to it.

The Eventide sounds like a nice pedal setup. I used to have an H3000 D/SE Ultra Harmonizer a LONG time ago. That thing sounded amazing.

I just have a bunch of pedals now.

Yeah, the Eventides are an amazing piece of kit when you pair them up with a MIDI capable effects switch like the Boss ES-8 (or ES-5), or the Gigrig G2. Essentially I only need to tap a single switch to change whatever pedals I have on or off, change the placement order of pedals (i.e. compressor into overdrive or overdrive into compressor, or create a parallel chain of distortion+reverb on one leg and a chorus on the other blending back together afterwards through a volume pedal which lets me control the ratio of the two legs as they get blended back).... I mean, really the sky is the limit, especially once you factor in that the H9's can essentially pull duty as a wah, distortion, chorus, harmonizer, octave, pitch shifter, stereo echo, reverb, tape delay, looper, and a dozen combinations there-in (I mean, seriously, you want that triplet repeat used all over the place by The Who, or the sound used in the beginning of Welcome to the Jungle by Gun's and Roses, the H9's do it). And by being able to re-arrange the pedal ordering, I can move an H9 to the first pedal in the chain so it can be a Wah (and have an expression pedal assigned to that particular H9 so to control the wah sound), or have it pulling duty as a looper and at the very end of my chain so that I can then layer in multiple tracks live for bigger sound.... I mean, seriously, some of the possibilities are almost endless with my being able to save all the different presets within the H9's (and be able to use an expression pedal to control different aspects of whatever the H9 is currently doing, like changing the harmonizer from a 5th to a 3rd, or major scale to minor, or send it tap tempo to change the timing of delays/echoes...).

 

[Seba]

And now for something completely different: I bought my second joystick - a Thrustmaster T.16000M.

 

[Stringjam]

And now for something completely different: I bought my second joystick - a Thrustmaster T.16000M.

Awesome! Welcome to the HOSAS family.

 

[DooKey]

I'd like to hook up with the AT corporation as an affiliate. I'm currently part of the [H] corporation.

I have the following ships:
P-52 Merlin (stand alone ship)
Sabre
Redeemer
Constellation Aquila (with P-52)

I'm interested in exploration and raiding/escorting.

Thunder is my callsign.