where are my god damn leaks.....
Seconded. It's freaking
The wait is killing me, because depending on how good Zen 3 is, I might do a full upgrade. If Zen 3 isn't very impressive, I might as well just wait for Golden Cove next year.
where are my god damn leaks.....
Seconded. It's freakingamazingunbelievable how AMD has held so tight a grip on potential leaks. I figured we would at least have a good idea by now of how Zen 3 will perform.
The wait is killing me, because depending on how good Zen 3 is, I might do a full upgrade. If Zen 3 isn't very impressive, I might as well just wait for Golden Cove next year.
They clearly got that faucet fixed. I think things like TRX80 and more recently Zen 3 will top out at 12 cores. They seed things like this and have found the leaks.
where are my god damn leaks.....
I can't take it anymore.
I'm wondering if they've hired some hitmen to take care of the leakers, it's too quiet.
Leaks aren't reliable. I'd rather wait for reviews from a trusted source anyway.
That would seem to imply that full 8 cores functional CCD are in short supply. Might be because of 8 core CCDs going to Epyc though.It's going to be like how they launched Zen 2. 12 core will be the highest SKU initially, and then next year, they will release a 16 core SKU.
Nope, 5nm was v0.5 since mid-2018.I hope that 5nm comment was sarcasm, or leak simulation.
I am not the only one. People are ignoring Taiwan sources of information. The kind with upper end TSMC sources, but ya lets just ignore AMD's N5 orders.Nosta, the only person saying Zen 3 is 5nm is you.
AMD currently follows Apple's node.You are making assumptions just based on what Apple is doing, not on what AMD is saying.
I am not the only one. People are ignoring Taiwan sources of information. The kind with upper end TSMC sources, but ya lets just ignore AMD's N5 orders...
Other than Navi2x series which are in the XSX, XSS, and PS5. Which are 7nm DUV SoCs.I'm sure AMD has N5 orders, but not for Zen 3.
Zen 3 is 7nm (N7P), 8 cores per CCX, higher cache per core, faster IF, better IMC, better IPC, a bit higher frequency.
Thats what is known about Zen 3.
Saying Zen 3 is 5nm is contradicting what AMD himself already said about Zen 3, so only someone who ignores what AMD said spreads fake rumours about Zen 3 being 5nm.
We can only ask why someone insists spreading fake rumours about Zen 3 -> 5nm knowing AMD already said is 7nm.
Trying to overhype with fake rumours and then say AMD didn't deliver? Who knows..
So, you are saying AMD is running behind? AMD are preemptively not delivering?Zen 3 is 7nm (N7P), 8 cores per CCX, higher cache per core, faster IF, better IMC, better IPC, a bit higher frequency.
Thats what is known about Zen 3.
Saying Zen 3 is 5nm is contradicting what AMD himself already said about Zen 3, so only someone who ignores what AMD said spreads fake rumours about Zen 3 being 5nm.
We can only ask why someone insists spreading fake rumours about Zen 3 -> 5nm knowing AMD already said is 7nm.
Trying to overhype with fake rumours and then say AMD didn't deliver? Who knows..
I don't get why people are saying Zen3 is N7P or N7+. It's on 5nm.I still don't know why people are saying Zen3 is N7P? It's on N7+
I don't get why people are saying Zen3 is N7P or N7+. It's on 5nm.
Perlmutter was delayed, and it's not because of A100s.
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Before the ban, Hi1630 was 7nm+ when it was announced. However, it is now 5nm.
Various 7nm+ stuff.
"7+ is not a major node, but rather it is a technology good for second wave and third wave customers. So it is come up slower when the first wave products or first wave customers ready to convert to the lower -- to another improved version. So it's -- it doesn't conflict with our 5. 5 is another major node."
We are ramping up N7+ right now, but the revenue for this year is still a little bit less than $1 billion. <= TWD
^-- 1Q2019
N7+(2019) => ~34.46M USD
N5(2020) => ~2861.92M USD
"We still expect some using the EUV and some will still stay in the N7. Because for those customer in the N7, in the 2-year cadence, they moved to N5 already. So they have no reason to go back to use N6. However, as I said, for the second wave of the product, they're using N6 with the benefit of lower die cost and better performance."
^-- 3Q2019
N6 has replaced N7+ as a second-wave and third-wave product. Which is proven:
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BREAKING | UNISOC Launches New-Gen 5G SoC T7520
Shanghai, China, 26 Feb 2020 – UNISOC, a leading global supplier of mobile communication and IoT chipsets, today officially launched its new-generation 5G SoC mobile platform – T7520. Using cutting-edge process technology, T7520 enables an optimized 5G experience with substantially enhanced AI...www.unisoc.com
7+ is only blurbed in 1Q20 and 5 is hyped in 2Q20.
=> Moving into third quarter 2020, we expect our business to be supported by strong demand for our industry leading 5-nanometer and 7-nanometer technologies, driven by 5G smartphone, HPC and IoT-related applications.
Then, there is a split => N5 and expect a strong ramp up of N5 in the second half of this year, driven by both 5G smartphones and HPC applications.
Smartphone market and HPC market is N5. Be really weird if someone else is first on 5nm datacenter CPU.
Im still rocking X370, and am looking at moving to Zen3 but from whats been said I am going to need to purchase a new motherboard.
Is a new chipset going to be released with Zen3, or will X570, B550 still be the premium choices for motherboard platform ?
And whats the general consensus on when we will see Zen 4 with DDR5 so I can get a rough idea on how long a new motherboard is going to tie me over for ?
Cheers
1. Lose first 5nm datacenter CPU & GPU.Only a few weeks to find out you are totally wrong.
Thanks dudeNo 300 series chipset will support Zen 3. Almost certain on that.
Will there be a new chipset for Zen 3? I doubt it. The "new" chipsets for Zen 3 seem to be B550 and A520.
Zen 4 will almost certainly be on AM5 (which I expect to be LGA) with DDR5 and probably PCIe 5. I wouldn't expect that until H1 2022. And whenever one has to say H1, expect that to be Q2 2022. Depending on how DDR5 moves along though even Q3 wouldn't surprise me.