Anyone but me looking forward to the H265 encoding perf ? Lol. Wroooom. I hope it doesn't let down my high expectations.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1357...-4-an-interview-with-amd-cto-mark-papermaster
There should be no negative offsets of any kind.
I don't have a specific piece of software in mind but given that AMD usually shows off their Zen CPUs using Cinebench where their architecture is favored, I wanted to see how well Cinebench performance translates to other applications, like encoding, photo editing, or gaming. I suppose in terms of some of the other benchmarks, it's going to be more sensitive to memory latency so it won't be exactly apples-to-apples.As I understand it CB mirrors perfectly the performance in Maxxons 4d software suite. So it's more or less 100% correlated to a real application. So it's actually not synthetic in that way like eg specint/fps.
Software is different. I mean it doesn't correlate to old game engines that more or less rely on a dx11 path that is more memory latency limited than more fpu throughput limited.
That said the performance seems pretty brutal if the numbers is true that is.
What software are you interested in?
Anyone know if Ryzen Matisse G CPUs can be overclocked.
I’d really like to overclock the 65 watt 3300G.
Thanks
It's a hoax old Jim invented to get people to click on his videos.
Jim believes that Renoir was supposed to be the 3300G and 3600G but was delayed from late Q3 to 2020. Loncraz suggested on Reddit it was placed to help make the leak less believable or easier to catch the leaker, depending on whether it was an intentional leak or not.
I think they intended to release Renoir this year if they could, with a different I/O die from Matisse, but ran into an issue.
Well if there is no negative offset it should run at base clock, and every other workload should run higher then baseLet's see what happens when all those fat fpu are fed with all those double resources. Yeaa 7nm great but they still go to perhaps 16c. I guess that 570 vrm is some serious stuff because my math say 150w plus for top 16c model.
There is no such thing as Matisse G.
Matisse doesn't have an iGPU
There is no "Ryzen 3 3300G".
It's a hoax old Jim invented to get people to click on his videos.
Only then can we definitely get to know if he has good sources or not, or if he outright makes things up.
I definitely could see a 3300G but it would be Picasso, probably with SMT enabled but clocked more modestly than 3200g. Or some other variation of Picasso.
As far as Matisse having a small iGPU it can't be ruled out yet, but the odds imho are long, like ballpark 20%.
Sorry, what I mean is that, even if Ryzen 3 3300G exists, it wouldn't be anything like the rumors.
AMD has already ruled out this possibility:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1385...nt-on-matisse-cpu-tdp-range-same-as-ryzen2000
his leaves another 33mm2 to pull off what extras Zen2 chiplets require (like more infinite fabric, buffers, coherency logic, etc).
The 4.2 8c is what we have seen from amd with this aprox 2200 CB score. Was around the 75w as I recall. 4.2 base for 16c 32x 256bit fpu working, seems like pretty high base to me? Know it's more borderline so rest of the time higher. I Dont have any technical insight, What's your take on it?Well if there is no negative offset it should run at base clock, and every other workload should run higher then base
Why 150watt plus, that would be something like 16c @ low 4ghz
lolzI would stay a bit more conservative about that, be confident about DDR4-4000 and hope for incremental improvements towards something like 4200-4400.
There is no such thing as Matisse G.
Matisse doesn't have an iGPU
There is no "Ryzen 3 3300G".
It's a hoax old Jim invented to get people to click on his videos.
You know, it's gotten quite tiresome always having to watch you so desperately trying to discredit a man, who so clearly explains the background of everything he shares with his audience.
Ok. So 570 is 24 x pci 4.0 and is presented next weeks. That moves am4 a bit closer to hedt market imo.
I mean if we get a 4200 CB 15 score and 24 x pci 4.0 the only major thing left of current hedt market is memory bandwidth.
It is a major leap and I have no doubt this is not a 500 usd cpu. More like 700. And the 570 boards will have Intel prices to boot.
Save up guys
Doesn't change the fact that everybody who actually needed a 16/32 CPU capable of getting 3 to 4 thousand points in CB had a two year head start of getting one.Sorry, I missed that. So a $1400 cpu overclocked to the max just equals what is most likely a $500 cpu. I know the tech is old, but they are still charging for it like its todays tech. Not to mention, no mention of how much juice it was taking to get to 4.8 vs the AMD running at 4.2 equaling it.
Doesn't change the fact that everybody who actually needed a 16/32 CPU capable of getting 3 to 4 thousand points in CB had a two year head start of getting one.
Who are you going to sell one of those now after two years?Only hobbyists that don't actually need it but want it to play around with.
Also the results and clocks are rumors so the amount of juice it took (for the ryzen as well) is besides the point,let the results be confirmed first.
Doesn't change the fact that everybody who actually needed a 16/32 CPU capable of getting 3 to 4 thousand points in CB had a two year head start of getting one.
Who are you going to sell one of those now after two years?Only hobbyists that don't actually need it but want it to play around with.
Also the results and clocks are rumors so the amount of juice it took (for the ryzen as well) is besides the point,let the results be confirmed first.
Anyone know if Ryzen Matisse G CPUs can be overclocked.
I’d really like to overclock the 65 watt 3300G.
There is no such thing as Matisse G.
Who are you going to sell one of those now after two years?
Big business is with big companies and those will only buy cutting edge.You make it sound like there's only ever one buying opportunity. In reality, there's always new buyers entering the market.
Yeah nice rant what does that have to do with anything?What a lame argument that sounds like sour grapes. Who needs the performance?
Only 1% gets the fastest options but wait until prices come down. Heck goes for all consumer goods. So the answer to your question is 99%. Lower prices trickle down the entire portfolio so it's not only about 16c. 8c will be the new norm. The consoles will have it. So pretty normal I would say and will make the foundation for future software and especially games.
The needs of people do change,that's a big part of the problem all the people that already got 3-4000 points in CB two years ago need something better right now and not the same thing.What a nonsensical argument. Because the needs of people don't change?
Lol OMG please tell me you think this will be a great gaming machine......After all, I thought "gaming was the only demanding thing a person was ever going to do?". Now you are arguing about Cinebench??? Just go away.
At this point you come across as trolling, or at least hateful of AMD for some reason.
And? Do you consider it for your business or as a hobby?Me. I thought about getting a 2950X, but the cost of ownership was higher than I wanted to pay, and the heat output from getting the thing to run 4.4 GHz static would have been astounding. Waiting for 16c to come to AM4 results in lower heat output, lower costs, and other goodness like higher IPC and higher clocks. I still may go for an 8c instead and try to cool it with my NH-D14, but I'm really on the fence there. Especially if all the high-bin dice wind up in 12c/16c SKUs.
You should just give it up, just are just burying yourself deeper.Big business is with big companies and those will only buy cutting edge.
Yes there are still potential buyers, but most of the market (big companies) already have what they need.
Yeah nice rant what does that have to do with anything?
Who said "Who needs the performance? " what I said was that the market that really needs the performance already bought it two years ago.
The needs of people do change,that's a big part of the problem all the people that already got 3-4000 points in CB two years ago need something better right now and not the same thing.
Lol OMG please tell me you think this will be a great gaming machine......
And? Do you consider it for your business or as a hobby?
Because if you had a business my guess is that the high price would have payed for itself very quickly.
You know, it's gotten quite tiresome always having to watch you so desperately trying to discredit a man, who so clearly explains the background of everything he shares with his audience (if only you even bothered...), and then you turn around and say _he_ has a messiah complex... Well, then I have no idea what your condition should be called, instead I just wish this forum had the option to let me hide your comments.
Sorry for being a little off topic.