Ya I am sure thats what the family wants. I am sure the Delgado's want to lose the free lunch they have just been served. They gave a piece of for skin they want a pound of flesh in return.
kage69
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It's not automatic, nor is it mutilation. If the kids penis was rendered "unusable" for either urination or future procreation, then the term mutilation would apply. A properly performed circumcision does not affect the function of the penis, keeps things more hygienic, actually makes the owner slightly less vulnerable to contracting bacteria via sex, rules out phimosis and the admittedly rare penile cancer.
I'm tired of hearing the 'well take a shower!' retort. Most women will tell you that is in fact not the miracle cure all for the troublesome upkeep of a moist orifice. I'm not saying uncircumcised men basically have vaginas, but they are susceptible to contracting yeast infections from their partners.
When a young girl in sub-Saharan Africa gets her clit snipped off with a pair of scissors, that's mutilation. It serves no other purpose but to reassure her future pissant husband that by feeling little enjoyment from the act of sex, she'll not be tempted to look for action elsewhere. Huge difference from a male having a circumcision which is essentially cosmetic, and doesn't interfere with recreational sex or procreation. So it's easier to wank off with an anteater. Um, great? Given how many females I've heard opine on the subject, that probably comes in handy (no pun intended).
Regarding the OP, this sounds like an unfortunate mistake on the part of the hospital, and about some parents looking to cash in on a firebrand issue. Funny that they maintain it's irreversible, I just saw a bizarre looking device online awhile ago that does exactly that, reverses circumcisions.
I'm tired of hearing the 'well take a shower!' retort. Most women will tell you that is in fact not the miracle cure all for the troublesome upkeep of a moist orifice. I'm not saying uncircumcised men basically have vaginas, but they are susceptible to contracting yeast infections from their partners.
When a young girl in sub-Saharan Africa gets her clit snipped off with a pair of scissors, that's mutilation. It serves no other purpose but to reassure her future pissant husband that by feeling little enjoyment from the act of sex, she'll not be tempted to look for action elsewhere. Huge difference from a male having a circumcision which is essentially cosmetic, and doesn't interfere with recreational sex or procreation. So it's easier to wank off with an anteater. Um, great? Given how many females I've heard opine on the subject, that probably comes in handy (no pun intended).
Regarding the OP, this sounds like an unfortunate mistake on the part of the hospital, and about some parents looking to cash in on a firebrand issue. Funny that they maintain it's irreversible, I just saw a bizarre looking device online awhile ago that does exactly that, reverses circumcisions.
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They are equivalent in that they are done accidentally and without your knowledge/consent.
So in that way, if I come up and flick your arm accidentally and without your knowledge/consent, then arm flicking = amputation = circumcision.
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Doctors should be allowed to make mistakes so long as those mistakes have health benefits?
Assault and battery are just the old civil common law grounds people sued under for medical malpractice. This is not going to be a criminal case.
This is one of those cases where patients should get something. Maybe not a million bucks but something.
This is one of those cases where patients should get something. Maybe not a million bucks but something.
Murloc
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USA is a barbarian country where genital mutilation is practiced. Just like Somalia where they cut the clitoris to avoid pleasure and masturbation.
/troll
Anyway those guys at the hospital will have to pay the same amount of money they would pay to someone who had any other non-impairing body part removed.
Like a piece of the ear or something.
It's not the same as leg amputation or balls removal anyway, and the assault charge will go nowhere, it's just a lawyer move, they'll get the money because of medical mistake.
USA is a barbarian country where genital mutilation is practiced. Just like Somalia where they cut the clitoris to avoid pleasure and masturbation.
/troll
Anyway those guys at the hospital will have to pay the same amount of money they would pay to someone who had any other non-impairing body part removed.
Like a piece of the ear or something.
It's not the same as leg amputation or balls removal anyway, and the assault charge will go nowhere, it's just a lawyer move, they'll get the money because of medical mistake.
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Sigh...
I didn't check when it was added but the wiki article on amputation includes a section on genital modification.. If one of you fools added it /shame.
Though at any rate.. amputation is the act of removing an extremity.. this is an amputation... it is just not a very major one.
That being said, there is so much BS in this thread... In my 6 years working at the local pool I never once heard of the kids ripping on another based on something like this. I heard on them ripping on their peers for about everything else.. but this certainly didn't save the child from ridicule. He will have plenty of opportunity to be made fun of and make fun of. Also, the health benefits are very debatable. Frankly I consider this purely cosmetic, but there certainly might be something to some of the claims.
While I find circumcision stupid and bordering on mutilation (so many nerve endings to cut away ), get it done to your kids if you want and it should not be illegal or anything (though I still have the right to parents wanting this the same look I give those who put hoop ear rings in their 2 year old). But if this family didn't want it they are entitled to compensation (though perhaps not nearly a million dollars). I'm sure there is a simple enough to find precedent for non key anatomy being removed by mistake that they can look at for a rather exact damage claim. Someone must have gotten an unwanted piercing before right?
I didn't check when it was added but the wiki article on amputation includes a section on genital modification.. If one of you fools added it /shame.
Though at any rate.. amputation is the act of removing an extremity.. this is an amputation... it is just not a very major one.
That being said, there is so much BS in this thread... In my 6 years working at the local pool I never once heard of the kids ripping on another based on something like this. I heard on them ripping on their peers for about everything else.. but this certainly didn't save the child from ridicule. He will have plenty of opportunity to be made fun of and make fun of. Also, the health benefits are very debatable. Frankly I consider this purely cosmetic, but there certainly might be something to some of the claims.
While I find circumcision stupid and bordering on mutilation (so many nerve endings to cut away
), get it done to your kids if you want and it should not be illegal or anything (though I still have the right to parents wanting this the same look I give those who put hoop ear rings in their 2 year old). But if this family didn't want it they are entitled to compensation (though perhaps not nearly a million dollars). I'm sure there is a simple enough to find precedent for non key anatomy being removed by mistake that they can look at for a rather exact damage claim. Someone must have gotten an unwanted piercing before right?
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If you're going to continue your obsession with head cheese, you should at least learn to spell smegma correctly.
Best of both worlds here for the kid - cleaner junk and money in the bank. I bet her lawyer's eyes turned green and lit up like christmas trees when this woman walked into his office.
However I don't get the assault and battery charge...shouldn't it be malpractice?
However I don't get the assault and battery charge...shouldn't it be malpractice?
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You contradicted yourself. You said that the circumcision isn't mutilation because it doesn't prevent urination or reproduction. How is removal of a clitoris any different? In both cases you are removing a part of the body that is effectively a sensory organ.
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It is cleaner to be circumsized but that doesnt mean it should be required, and luckily it isnt. Besides that the parents didnt want it...So they are owed something here.
1 million dollars ? No, but 200k for the kid in a private trust fund that only HE can use once he is 18 would be a good compromise. The parents themselves really should not get the money since they would just spend in on themselves.
1 million dollars ? No, but 200k for the kid in a private trust fund that only HE can use once he is 18 would be a good compromise. The parents themselves really should not get the money since they would just spend in on themselves.
surfsatwerk
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Throckmorton
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Not "a bit of foreskin", all the foreskin. That's the POINT. How is it any less severe?
It still slings yogurt and can drive a nail when excited. Pretty sure when you do the same to a women they just lay there like a sack of wet farts.
surfsatwerk
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Throckmorton
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You can still "drive a nail" and "sling yogurt" into a woman with no clitoris, she can experience an orgasm, and she can use that yogurt to fertilize an egg and create a baby.
Face it-- the only difference between clitoris removal and foreskin removal is that our culture considers one mutilation to be normal but not the other.
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