South Korean hostage killed

[ROTC1983]

R.I.P I hope the terrorists get what is coming to them. This BS has gone on long enough. Lke someone mentioned before, won't all of these killings eventually just enrage the rest of world?

 

[welst10]

Anyone dare to watch the video? It's at ogrish.com (seems like a sicko website). I watched the Berg video out of curiosity and was so shocked. Now I am afraid to watch this one.

 

[HamSupLo]

ain't no love for the asian man :frown:

 

[dc]

Originally posted by: ROTC1983
R.I.P I hope the terrorists get what is coming to them. This BS has gone on long enough. Lke someone mentioned before, won't all of these killings eventually just enrage the rest of world?

nope, sadly most people are apathetic to happenings that don't directly affect them. also many are so anti-US that they would point blame to the US first and eventually overlook/forget these murderous/vicious acts committed. just look at spain, did the train bombing enrage the population and solidify support to fight terror? nope, the complete opposite happened, shows terrorists that acts of terror if shocking enough can sometimes work.

my 2 cents.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: bleeb

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
We need to do what the Russians did in Lybia (I believe it was) quite some time ago. Find out who's doing the kidnapping and then go pick up a few of their family members and kill them. Cruel, but effective.

If the U.S. does this, then in some sense, the beheadings are justified in the Terrorists mind. (i.e. The U.S. are Terrorists themselves).

What needs to happen is the self-realization (by terrorists) that they are doing wrong. Their religious basis for the attacks are wrong. Killing their families would only fuel their misguided agendas and most likely, increase beheadings. This essentially means more terrorist attacks both on foreign and domestic fronts.

only 10-20 more executions and then i'm sure they'll get right on that. option c, start going town by town and find out where these scum are hiding out, wyatt earp style, ala tombstone.

 

[peonyu]

The Religion of peace shows its kind tendacies to the world once again.

 

[Dacalo]

Originally posted by: Armitage
Koreans tend to have a different outlook on things like this then most western countries, from what I've gathered from people that have been stationed there or fought in the Korean war. I'm guessing that the death of an individual is not going to have the kind of impact on government policy, or even public opinion as it would in many western countries.

For example, a story I heard recently ... Koreans fought with us in the Vietnam war. The Viet Cong quickly learned not to lob mortars into bases where korean troops were stationed. While US forces would go out and try to find the guys who was responsible, the koreans would just go out and kill anything that moved within about a 5 mile radius.

This is true to some degree. I heard that the Korean troops in Vietnam were ruthless to the Viet Congs. They would torture them and execute them mercilessly.

I don't know if they would do that again due to the different nature of the war but those terrorists rattled the bee hive for sure.

 

[welst10]

Originally posted by: Dacalo

Originally posted by: Armitage
Koreans tend to have a different outlook on things like this then most western countries, from what I've gathered from people that have been stationed there or fought in the Korean war. I'm guessing that the death of an individual is not going to have the kind of impact on government policy, or even public opinion as it would in many western countries.

For example, a story I heard recently ... Koreans fought with us in the Vietnam war. The Viet Cong quickly learned not to lob mortars into bases where korean troops were stationed. While US forces would go out and try to find the guys who was responsible, the koreans would just go out and kill anything that moved within about a 5 mile radius.

This is true to some degree. I heard that the Korean troops in Vietnam were ruthless to the Viet Congs. They would torture them and execute them mercilessly.

I don't know if they would do that again due to the different nature of the war but those terrorists rattled the bee hive for sure.

That sounds like the Japanese army in WWII.

 

[Drizzy]

Well, what was the guy doing there? I really do feel sorry for these people that are being taken hostage but wtf? Get out of the country and area cause its a known war zone and foreign people are being targeted every day!!

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Will this set the resolve of the Koreans to sort this carp out, or will they fold like the Spanish.

they will do as the spanish

i think only the US will take on these animals, all other nations will attempt to appease them

You make it seem like the Koreans are cowards if they pull out...because they are trying to "appease" them. Other countries do not have the resources that the US enjoys. It's not that easy to send your troops into harm's way for a fight that is not your own.

And if you read the article, it says they are sending 3000 troops regardless.

I am sorry to say that I do not not know anything about what is going on in Korea. I might be mistaken, but somewhere along the lines I picked up the conception that there is no money there, and that they have their hands full with the North. I did not mean to say, nor imply that they would be cowards. I am sure that the above reasons would make any country be leery of going to war.

My comparison to Spain was, perhaps, incorrect. Spain, I am led to believe decided that is was not there war, did not want to get involved and just pulled out entirely, thinking that it would keep the wolves from their door. It is my opinion that it will not, but it will buy them some time.

🙂

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Drizzy
Well, what was the guy doing there? I really do feel sorry for these people that are being taken hostage but wtf? Get out of the country and area cause its a known war zone and foreign people are being targeted every day!!

I believe he was a translator.

 

[Sid59]

so barbaric .. so sad.

 

[upsciLLion]

Originally posted by: peonyu
The Religion of peace shows its kind tendacies to the world once again.

Please don't confuse a religion with those who are over-zealous enough to think they are best fit to represent it.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: upsciLLion

Originally posted by: peonyu
The Religion of peace shows its kind tendacies to the world once again.

Please don't confuse a religion with those who are over-zealous enough to think they are best fit to represent it.

Care to show an example of the outraged muslims marching in the streets?

You will find a few muslim leaders expressing outrage, but not many. The fact is that after 9/11, the majority of muslims in the middle east were dancing in the streets and celebrating, NOT mourning or protesting or speaking out about how evil the act was. Even if most of them are not actively participating, the number of muslims, especially in the middle east, that support groups like Al Qaeda is FAR FAR more than just a few over-zealous extremists.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: upsciLLion

Originally posted by: peonyu
The Religion of peace shows its kind tendacies to the world once again.

Please don't confuse a religion with those who are over-zealous enough to think they are best fit to represent it.

Yeah, I've got to agree there. These terrorists have about as much to do with Islam as Abortion clinic bombers have to do with Catholicism.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: upsciLLion

Originally posted by: peonyu
The Religion of peace shows its kind tendacies to the world once again.

Please don't confuse a religion with those who are over-zealous enough to think they are best fit to represent it.

Yeah, I've got to agree there. These terrorists have about as much to do with Islam as Abortion clinic bombers have to do with Catholicism.

I don't remember seeing thousands and thousands of catholics marching in the street celebrating the Paul Hill murder.

EDIT: Let me clarify before anyone misunderstands. I am NOT saying all muslims are terrorists. Only that the problem is far more than just a few extremists. It is also the millions of other muslims who agree with these terrorists.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: TerryMathews

Originally posted by: upsciLLion

Originally posted by: peonyu
The Religion of peace shows its kind tendacies to the world once again.

Please don't confuse a religion with those who are over-zealous enough to think they are best fit to represent it.

Yeah, I've got to agree there. These terrorists have about as much to do with Islam as Abortion clinic bombers have to do with Catholicism.

I don't remember seeing thousands and thousands of catholics marching in the street celebrating the Paul Hill murder.

EDIT: Let me clarify before anyone misunderstands. I am NOT saying all muslims are terrorists. Only that the problem is far more than just a few extremists. It is also the millions of other muslims who agree with these terrorists.

The Muslim terrorists are very much like the Nazi leadership of old. You don't necessairly have to agree with the party line, but if you disagree you're one of the infidels and there's a bullet with your name on it as well.

 

[Grimbones]

Eh, someone's got to be heartless and say, this is war, you gotta be able to sacrifice one life for the good of the people. They wanted SK to remove alll their troops from the war effort, and you can't make deals with terrorists, i mean what the hell are you doing in the Middle East nowadays? Bad vacation move...Oh...unless you're a soldier...if that man was a soldier by the way..not the gutsiest..pleading for his life and all the such, i'm not saying i wouldn't but hey..have some respect. :frown:

 

[upsciLLion]

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: upsciLLion

Originally posted by: peonyu
The Religion of peace shows its kind tendacies to the world once again.

Please don't confuse a religion with those who are over-zealous enough to think they are best fit to represent it.

Care to show an example of the outraged muslims marching in the streets?

You will find a few muslim leaders expressing outrage, but not many. The fact is that after 9/11, the majority of muslims in the middle east were dancing in the streets and celebrating, NOT mourning or protesting or speaking out about how evil the act was. Even if most of them are not actively participating, the number of muslims, especially in the middle east, that support groups like Al Qaeda is FAR FAR more than just a few over-zealous extremists.

I'm sure the ones you saw on sensationalizing US TV were celebrating.

 

[MadPeriot]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: MadPeriot

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Very sad... The guy was begging for his life a few days ago.. The horrors of what he must have went through those last few minutes are unspeakable.

It's clear that we are dealing with psychotic sociopaths that have no regard for human life. Therefore, the only effective way to deal with these bloodthirsty nutcases is to wipe them out.

My thoughts exactly.

Sweet, all we have to do is go into Iraq and weed out their entire population, separating the nice Iraqis from the mean terrorists. Then we rinse and repeat in all the Muslim countries around the world.

Bwahahaha.

EDIT: Wait, forgot we have to screen all the Muslims in non-Muslim countries too. After that, if we have time, we can go after all the McVeighs, Nichols, and other non-Muslim terrorists.

Well too freaking bad. We are at WAR with terrorist forces that are united in their desire to kill as many Americans and westerners as possible. 3500+ and counting, beheading innocent civilians after making demands that they KNOW won't be met. What do you propose? We sit on our asses and let them determine what happens? Put the ball in their hands and see what they do next? I don't think so. Our only course of action is to continue hunting them down and killing them. We can't say for sure that another tradegy like 9/11 won't happen, but it is our duty to try to prevent it from happening. Better than sitting around feeling sorry for these scumbags.

My thoughts exactly. :thumbsup:

 

[cucumber]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: MadPeriot

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Very sad... The guy was begging for his life a few days ago.. The horrors of what he must have went through those last few minutes are unspeakable.

It's clear that we are dealing with psychotic sociopaths that have no regard for human life. Therefore, the only effective way to deal with these bloodthirsty nutcases is to wipe them out.

My thoughts exactly.

Sweet, all we have to do is go into Iraq and weed out their entire population, separating the nice Iraqis from the mean terrorists. Then we rinse and repeat in all the Muslim countries around the world.

Bwahahaha.

EDIT: Wait, forgot we have to screen all the Muslims in non-Muslim countries too. After that, if we have time, we can go after all the McVeighs, Nichols, and other non-Muslim terrorists.

What a load of crap.

Of course it's impossible to screen every Muslim on Earth and weed out the nut jobs. But does that mean there should be no action taken? Should they just be left alone to do whatever digusting things they want just because it's hard to stop them all?

Maybe we should stop all medical research and practice since it's impossible to cure everyone. Maybe we should stop law enforcement and let the criminals run free because we can't possibly stop them all.

What the hell does McVeigh have to do with anything? We're not talking about the random and rare isolated jackasses. This is a massive world wide problem that must be stopped.

 

[cucumber]

One thing that kind of bothers me is that the Korean guy was begging in English. WTF? If this was truly an effort to make S Korea not send troops they would have had him speaking Korean.

These animals knew damned well S Korea would not give in. Making Korea give in was not the intent of this. They knew that their demands would most likely not be met. This inocent unlucky man was going to die no matter what. This was simply more effort to scare Americans.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: welst10

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
We need to do what the Russians did in Lybia (I believe it was) quite some time ago. Find out who's doing the kidnapping and then go pick up a few of their family members and kill them. Cruel, but effective.

Then why the Russians arent doing well with the chechens?

Russia isn't allowed to use the tactics that they used to be able to.
ie. deport the entire population to kazakh.

I suppose there would be no wars today if they hadn't reversed that decision eh?

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: bleeb
What needs to happen is the self-realization (by terrorists) that they are doing wrong.

Let me guess, you are a Democrat, or maybe dillusional....wait, that is redundant so I will stick with the first question.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: upsciLLion

Originally posted by: DT4K

Originally posted by: upsciLLion

Originally posted by: peonyu
The Religion of peace shows its kind tendacies to the world once again.

Please don't confuse a religion with those who are over-zealous enough to think they are best fit to represent it.

Care to show an example of the outraged muslims marching in the streets?

You will find a few muslim leaders expressing outrage, but not many. The fact is that after 9/11, the majority of muslims in the middle east were dancing in the streets and celebrating, NOT mourning or protesting or speaking out about how evil the act was. Even if most of them are not actively participating, the number of muslims, especially in the middle east, that support groups like Al Qaeda is FAR FAR more than just a few over-zealous extremists.

I'm sure the ones you saw on sensationalizing US TV were celebrating.

So again, where were the crowds of muslims protesting and condemning al-qaida for 9/11? Where are they now protesting and condemning the actions of Al-Zarqawi and his henchmen? Where is the outcry on Arab media?

*tumbleweeds*

"Religion of peace" my ass.