Sorry, another Donald Trump Thread

[TallBill]

Your opinion seems very poorly thought out and seems almost entirely emotional as opposed to logical.

If you have points you want to logically debate I am super down with that. I suspect you don’t.

Eh, it may come off as that, but my personality is completely the opposite. I'd love a logical debate/discussion.

 

[Indus]

Eh, it may come off as that, but my personality is completely the opposite. I'd love a logical debate/discussion.

We're not interested in having a logical debate/ discussion with neo nazis who just bring us down to their own neo-nazi persona levels.

 

[TallBill]

We're not interested in having a logical debate/ discussion with illogical people who just bring us down to their own neo-nazi persona levels.

Forum rules dictate that you must be civil in your personal attacks. Do you feel like calling me a Nazi is civil? What basis do you have for this claim? Should I be killed?

 

[dark zero]

Ok, I see that Trump can land some hit after missing over 9 each time... but what is happening here?

He initially wanted to maintain the status quo, but at the end he gave up and went as his old ways to screw up the people...

And now seems that US is slowly becoming a hard place to people who comes to other countries to work there, and even the legal migrants are having some issues as far I see, but by how much?

 

[Victorian Gray]

Welcome to P&N groupthink. Neckbeards that are absolutely right about everything throw insults about others lack of intelligence and tighten their fingerless gloves. Racism is encouraged (so long as it’s against the right color) and sexist slurs used with abandon. Everything is literal Nazis (literally!) and these are the darkest days the US has ever faced.

Wow, don't drown in all that straw bunky.

 

[Moonbeam]

Where did I defend Trump? I read the whole thing, but I can't answer it because you need to rework that part.

Not really. My aim was to extend an opportunity to discuss your OP with you. If I had a need to do that I would bring a bias to the discussion. If I were to accede to your demand to show where you defended Trump it would mean I have a need to continue which you can interpret as leverage like black mail. Drop the demand, try to answer the question and we can continue. The road down whether you support or don't support Trump is completely irrelevant. I am interested in exploring what can happen when motivation is explored, not your political orientation or who you do or do not support. I want to find out what is involved in being a dick, not in calling you one.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Lol I live in Germany bro, the whole Nazi thing doesn't happen over here. How many Nazis have you killed?

Are you an American?
Are you remotely concerned about the tiki torch nazi's
Are you concerned about the President profiting off his vacation visits or foreign dignitaries using his hotels? You realize someone else will do the same thing at some future time
Are you concerned about the President seemingly believing he can pardon himself and cannot be held liable for any crime?

 

[Moonbeam]

again this is what we are dealing with

I don't think so in the way that you mean that. For one thing those to are not people I have a chance to talk to and certainly not the person I am talking except as you see TB and these two as similar metaphorically, or whatever. And perhaps more importantly, if I were to have the opportunity to deal with those two, I would be dealing with how I see them, not how you see them. They remind me of my beloved parents and the tragedy of their lives.

 

[cytg111]

Lol I live in Germany bro, the whole Nazi thing doesn't happen over here. How many Nazis have you killed?

Ill indulge. How does this make any sense at all? What are you barking at?

- You live in Germany now, so you think you have a take on nazi area circa 1935 to 1945, more likely the political climate 1925 to 1935?
- How old are you anyway?
- Germany.. and deployed twice in the early days.. is that desert storm or Iraq part II? What branch of military? - this is getting sketchy.
- How many Nazis have you killed.
- Explain to us what "Alternative for Germany" is and its role in current germany affairs.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Are you an American?
Are you remotely concerned about the tiki torch nazi's
Are you concerned about the President profiting off his vacation visits or foreign dignitaries using his hotels? You realize someone else will do the same thing at some future time
Are you concerned about the President seemingly believing he can pardon himself and cannot be held liable for any crime?

He doesn't care. He's just here to show folks what a clever lad he is.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Claims to want a discussion,
Really just wants to spout opinions about how Trump isnt that bad but fails to provide evidence.

Team SnowTrumpian strikes again.

 

[umbrella39]

Claims to want a discussion,
Really just wants to spout opinions about how Trump isnt that bad but fails to provide evidence.

Team SnowTrumpian strikes again.

And then act butt hurt... I was sort of hoping he would bring good discourse back here but I guess that ship sailed after the first preemptive martyr post... Pretty transparent motivation for returning.... Shame he can't wrangle up some of those old members from the other forum and bring them back. While I'm certain some of those old guys and gals are RBM with sock puppets, it would be nice to hear some strong defense of Trump and the GOP not riddled in false equivalence, whataboutism, and straw man... That's asking way too much. We are left to toss poop back and forth at the boring and predictable ALT account denizens...

 

[Greenman]

Awe... The consummate victim! You've been here long enough to know this is complete bullshit . The thing is you guys were able to construct arguments to defend Bush. Most if not all of those intelligent conservative posters have long since abandoned that practice with Trump and have either high tailed it out of here or have grown a conscience. No, most if not all of you who have stayed, some with multiple accounts, are just team sport high fivers at this point. You are a shell of you former selves... But alas, you will just paint yourself as the victim again. Work in your game. We'll be here when you want to stop acting so oppressed...

I'm not a victim or oppressed. It's weird the way you pulled that out of your ass as if it had significance. My point was, and still is, that you and several others accept no opinion that doesn't directly align with your own, and feel that the proper response is to insult, denigrate, and the good old stand by, name calling. To me, it comes across as childish. It doesn't hurt my feelings, it doesn't make feel like I'm being picked on, it just seems foolish. It's pretty much exactly how Trump responds when he's challenged.

 

[Noah Abrams]

Perhaps you are familiar with the idea that people will do things without necessarily knowing why. The sentence before this one might just well be an example of that, for example, but since you are the one OP posting here, maybe we should explore what reasons may motivate that desire. So what that prompts me to ask, given what you have said so far, is to ask what you mean by admitting to us that you are a dick. What kind of dick. How do you see yourself as a dick. What does being a dick mean. I am especially interested to know if the kind of dick that you think yourself to be is one that gives you pride. If not, does admitting you are a dick in a bad sense allow you to take pride in your honesty. Is it a defensive move, a way to get ahead of criticism, 'you can't insult me because I already admit to being what you want to call me.'

My opinion is that your OP expresses an emotional need. One of the first things that comes to my mind along those lines is that the toxic environment expressed here represents a real challenge to your self respect as a person who sees good things in Trump, as you claim and defend. Your self worth as a human being is being challenged, the deplorable thingi. My understanding of how people work is that they have egos that protect them from feelings of worthlessness that were inculcated into us as children and we spend our time trying to strengthen that ego by testing, by making a greater and greater ass of ourselves and successfully defending. To win such tests is of course to fail because all it does is make us better at being dicks. So what do you think. Can you tell me what kind of dick you are or did you just not even manage to skim this?

I've read this post multiple times. There is much truth here.

 

[Noah Abrams]

I'm not a victim or oppressed. It's weird the way you pulled that out of your ass as if it had significance. My point was, and still is, that you and several others accept no opinion that doesn't directly align with your own, and feel that the proper response is to insult, denigrate, and the good old stand by, name calling. To me, it comes across as childish. It doesn't hurt my feelings, it doesn't make feel like I'm being picked on, it just seems foolish. It's pretty much exactly how Trump responds when he's challenged.

Sorry...wrong thread. Please disregard this post

 

[Greenman]

Sorry...wrong thread. Please disregard this post

Are you sure? If you have an opinion I'd like to hear it.

 

[Noah Abrams]

Are you sure? If you have an opinion I'd like to hear it.

Yes. You have to ponder for a bit that why people resort to insults name calling etc. I think you will find the reasons have little to do with the object of insults, the content of the matter in discussion or any such thing.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Yes. You have to ponder for a bit that why people resort to insults name calling etc. I think you will find the reasons have little to do with the object of insults, the content of the matter in discussion or any such thing.

Review some posts leading up to the election, come back and tells us what you think

 

[umbrella39]

I'm not a victim or oppressed. It's weird the way you pulled that out of your ass as if it had significance. My point was, and still is, that you and several others accept no opinion that doesn't directly align with your own, and feel that the proper response is to insult, denigrate, and the good old stand by, name calling. To me, it comes across as childish. It doesn't hurt my feelings, it doesn't make feel like I'm being picked on, it just seems foolish. It's pretty much exactly how Trump responds when he's challenged.

LOL I called you no names and only post my opinion yet you keep insisting you are being insulted and called names...

Nope, I nailed when you showed up a short time ago...

You are a victim... and boring... and on ignore now.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

LOL I called you no names and only post my opinion yet you keep insisting you are being insulted and called names...

Nope, I nailed when you showed up a short time ago...

You are a victim... and boring... and on ignore now.

Feels got fucked...

 

[Greenman]

LOL I called you no names and only post my opinion yet you keep insisting you are being insulted and called names...

Nope, I nailed when you showed up a short time ago...

You are a victim... and boring... and on ignore now.

Apparently, you didn't read my post and responded to what you wish I said. We can't have a dialog if you don't know what you're responding to.
If you take a look at join dates, you'll note I didn't show up a short time ago.

 

[Paratus]

Someone asked a question, and I responded, and now I'm the bad guy for that? I never said I loved any of that stuff or that it was foolproof.

On a side not, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is a terrible benchmark for anything, it doesn't represent much of anything and doesn't take market cap into account. S&P 500 is a better snapshot.

I’m not saying you’re the bad guy. I’m giving my observations of the issues you listed as being positives by the administration.

While you’ve got a point about the DOW the S&P hasn’t been immune either, at least according to CNBC.

• On the same days that the Dow dropped 1 percent on trade news, the S&P 500 fell a cumulative $2.2 trillion.